Over the past 3 months nearly a 1000000 people have had to flee for their lives in syria children are freezing to death but does the world care ill ask a senior u. N. Humanitarian official. Mockups thank you for joining me on up front your the u. N. Deputy Regional Humanitarian Coordinator for syria over the past 3 months there hundreds of thousands of people have been fleeing from their homes inside of it glib many of them including kids freezing to death of the Syrian Army Advances towards them is anyone going to save the cattle anyone save them. Well humanitarians are doing their best to help these people with many different humanitarian workers on the ground being trying to help move people away from frontline areas and try to help provide in tents and blankets and plastic sheeting and food another relief items but what these people want is for the fighting to stop they want safety and thats whats not happening at the moment and thats where the Security Council needs to act we have been briefing the Security Council weve been warning them that this is coming but you know humanitarians can only play their part political actors are also needed and they need to stop this fighting and ensure that the civilians are protected ill come back to the Security Council and those political act as you rightly mentioned in a moment just dealing with the situation on the ground you say youre trying to help people get away from the front line but the harsh brutal reality is that there is no escape for a lot of these people is that turkey which has taken in millions of people in the past has shut the border so if youre a syrian stranded it right now theres basically a death sentence hanging over you yes what were dealing with is the situation of 3000000 people who are trapped in a war zone and these are people who are not simply fleeing fighting between 2 opposing armies this is a population which itself is under attack they come from towns and villages which have faced systematic wide scale indiscriminate bombing airstrikes and shelling thats continued day and night entire cities and towns have been emptied out and as these people have fled many of them have been hit along the way when shells an airstrike that landed on the routes that theyve been using to try to escape so this is a protection crisis on a monumental scale and something asked to be done so are you asking are you calling on turkey to open the border or is it impossible for turkey to cope with another 3000000 refugees given i believe theyre already taken in 4000000 syrians over the last few years. Turkey already hosts more refugees than any other country in the world and it hosts many more Syrian Refugees than any other country 3600000 Syrian Refugees so most un Member States are not being heard calling on turkey to open its borders i think they know that if turkey has to open its borders. The next question will be are European Countries going to be opening their borders and are you saying that European Countries should be taking in more Syrian Refugees because again european governments say thats a problem for us well the whole world needs to shoulder its the sponsibility towards these people if they cannot be protected inside their own country then that have to be protected somewhere else the United States government has banned syrians from entering the country theyre on a banned list as a humanitarian whos watching whats happening inside of syria how do you feel about. What we know is that the people were talking about are mostly women and children and elderly people the whole world has watched the pictures of the last few weeks these people need to be treated for what they are civilians who are trapped in a war zone and many people have talked about this conflict in a very politicized way and we see some of the warring parties justifying their actions in terms of you know fighting terrorism but we know that there are more than 100 civilians for every find in the area and these civilians need to be treated for what they are these people need help and they need to be protected but you have a u. S. Government which is obviously a big donor to the u. N. And to u. N. Humanitarian relief operation is a big player in that part of the world you have a u. S. President to bomb syria a couple of years ago when his daughter came to and said she couldnt bear to see pictures of chemical weapons attacks you have a president who now says you know what im only there to keep the oil he openly brags and the president who will not take in any Syrian Refugees whats your message to the u. S. Government as a u. N. Official. Well we want to see the u. S. Government take action we want to see all of the members of the Security Council and particularly we dont think powers we want to see then their role at the Security Council that has really been you know paralyzed over the last few months and has not been able to find a solution to this crisis but you know on many occasions in the past Security Council members have found ways to overcome their personal interest and find solutions and we need those Security Council members now to urgently find a solution the secretary general has called for an immediate cease fire and thats whats needed now more than anything else you say the u. N. Security council is paralyzed what would you say to those people who say that some understatement syria proves that the u. N. Security council is broken it cannot deal with a problem like syria makes syria worse that it should be the russians or the chinese cast their 14th veto to block the delivery of aid to millions of syrians recently surely that shows that the Security Council is not fit for purpose when it comes to humanitarian disaster like syria i dont know if its just the Security Council thats not the purpose i think you know the entire humanitarian system globally needs to be looked at you know something needs to be done to ensure that if people cannot flee to another country they will be protected within the what is that but mark realistically you have the russian government which is bombing these towns you talked about systematic widespread indiscriminate bombing you said a moment ago what would you say to people who say you need to go further than that you need to call out war crimes for what they are you need to call out war criminals for who they are but the u. N. Shouldnt just be kind of equivocating at a time like this it would be helpful if you named names and shame the people involved if i ask you today mark your theyre dealing with this tragedy dealing with this crisis if i say to you youre talking to these refugees day clearly telling you whats happening is there evidence of war crimes. Well we know theres lots of evidence of what crimes and we know that what crimes have been committed throughout by whom oh well you know it very well by all sides and its not for me to you know to determine whether any individual act constitutes that was a crime or not thats what the courts to decide but we do know that there have been many war crimes and 70 theres every indication that a lot of war crimes have been committed in the last few months including just in the last few days but but mark a lot of a lot of people what a lot of people watching this around the world theyll say thats true crimes have been committed by all sides but right now a nearly a 1000000 people have fled from their homes in the last 3 months thats not all sides thats just Syrian Government and its russian ally. Yes well we know that the majority of the civilian deaths and injuries in the area have been caused by air strikes and shining carried out by Syrian Government forces and their allies we know this very well and weve been calling on all of them repeatedly and ive had meetings and just this week with the russians and the turks and the americans and others talking about the conflict calling again for respect for International Humanitarian law calling for these people to be protected we know exactly whos doing the bombing and we are pulling them out all the time but the problem is that the bombing is just continuing heres a problem though for the u. N. And its all very well calling out these governments but weve known how bad it could be has been for years in 2018 steffan de mistura then the Un Special Envoy for syria warned of a quote perfect storm looming over it slip theyve been warning after warning after warning so why are millions of people in this situation right now why are nearly a 1000000 people fleeing for their lives when you have experts and diplomats having warned that this was going to happen is it just that International Organizations and governments and the people around the world just dont give a damn about syrians anymore theyre exhausted of the syrian conflict theres a syria fatigue how do we get to this point well i think unfortunately that is the case that theres a lot of fatigue when it comes to syria because theres been so many battles and so much displacement after all 12000000 people have been this place than you know over these last 9 years but just at the time when we thought wed seen the worst of this war when we thought the war might be you know coming to an end what weve seen is one of the worst catastrophes of the entire war so this is not the time for people to be taking their eye off syria and this is not the time you know for any complacency we need concerted action by Security Council members to stop this fight. But what would you say to critics who say u. N. Officials u. N. Organizations havent done enough could and should have done more over the past few years right now were trying to scare not to scale up our operation weve just asked for 500000000. 00 in new funding weve got thousands of trucks crossing the border every month were doing a lot but ultimately its up to Member States the United Nations and particularly the Security Council members to find the Political Solutions to deal with crises of this mark you did call for an additional 500000000. 00 to provide lifesaving assistance to people it liberally this week you say theres a 371 1000000. 00 funding gap when it comes to syrian humanitarian operations and yet last year when the Notre Dame Cathedral caught fire people were able to pledge a 1000000000. 00 to help fix it in the space of 24 hours when you hear statistics like that how does that make you feel. Ive never been happy about the amount of funding that comes to different humanitarian operations of around the world and certainly for the syria crisis we actually need a lot more money than were currently getting the money you are asking for is the equivalent of 2 months roughly of spending that the American Military does on its troops in that part of the world so we should have no problem getting this money and because you are you know we dont know what money we need but ultimately we need the money we need the Political Support but more than anything else we just want the killing of civilians to stop and the Syrian Government of course says as you mentioned earlier when all sides are doing horrible things they point to rebel groups they point to alqaeda affiliates and it glib and say theyre responsible for the humanitarian crisis what do you say when you hear that argument well we know that all sides have committed atrocities in this war we know that its been happening in recently but we also know this that this think that have been collected by the u. N. Human Rights Office recently showed that 93 percent of the deaths in the at that area had been caused by air strikes and shelling by the Syrian Government forces and their allies mark last question what you read from the kind of governments having kind of failed in their obligations not doing enough to stop the violence or to contribute money whats your message to ordinary people watching this who have just heartbroken by some of the scenes coming out of syria whats your message to people on the look and they do well i think 1st of all pressure on your own parliamentarians on your own government to ensure that there is a concerted effort made to find a political solution to this crisis but secondly please contribute generously to the humanitarian operation we need your support the people of need your support markets thank you for joining me on up front good luck. Thank you. In 1988 dr Martin Luther king launched a poor peoples march on washington seeking Economic Justice for impoverished americans more than 50 years later and with a right wing republican president in office that movement has been revived and some christian leaders on the left are demanding a revolution against poverty joining me now from atlanta to discuss this is the reverend dr william j. Barber cochair of the Poor Peoples Campaign and National Call for moral revival and president of the nonprofit repairers of the breach William Barber thank you for joining me on up front thank you so much and great to be with you the president of the United States. Says quote no president has ever done what i have done for evangelicals all for religion itself do you agree with the. No i do not also dont agree that even evangelicals are supporting him i think oftentimes in the media we use these terms that have been thrown at us im an evangelical if you look at the true meaning of evangelical which means to preach good news to the poor or care for the broken hearted and care for the oppressed what we see is a false kind of religion a distorted moron there to where evangelicalism has been hijacked we have been forced to use these false framing like the left vs right theres no such thing as a left christian versus a right christian and you either christian or youre not an author ducks christianity says that what is most important is how you treat the poor the children the women the sick and the least of these and on all of those accounts from failed but not just from his enablers in the senate the Republican Party faces and even those who have hijacked the word term evangelicals they are just because you say youre an evangelical theres a scripture in the bible that says there are many who say they love the lord with their lips but their heart is far from it the heart of his policies are far from anything off at the christian christianity calls us to care about in the public when you bob this is a global debate of course and you say theres no left or right and im sure many people agree with you but the reality is that if i was interviewing a quote unquote right wing evangelical leader on the show weve had right wing evangelicals on the show they would say no the most important issue is not poverty its abortion for example you know that in this country in the United States thats a big driving force for a lot of quote unquote right wing christian evangelicals who dont agree with you but they cant but they can say that biblically you dont have text on abortion and hatred toward homosexuals you do have 2000 texts that say health care and children and the poor so you can say whatever. You want to but it doesnt align with jesus the what we call the red letter of the bible and if youre an evangelical christian your Public Policy is not driven by a Republican Party or Democratic Party concept of left or concept or right it is driven by jesus and where jesus stood on social issues of his time im a theologian trying theologian if we have a battle of heresy versus christian true and that is not a left that is not a left right issue when it comes to theology the ology doesnt use those terms a left and right you mention the word heresy when you see donald trump retreating people saying hes the 2nd coming of god when you see some self Harry Christian evangelical leader saying hes been sent by god how do you feel about having harry. Heresy what they say a logical malpractise why theyre saying i dont know why they send it back then but what i can say is its not biblical and it doesnt line up with the example of jesus christ as i said you can say anything you can decide that you go on worship tomatoes or worship great fruit it does not make it biblical it does not make it christian i just heard you say you dont like the language of the religious right you dont like the language of left and right theyre not really bad as what do you call them then how do you refer to these people i just say their religion is their their their religion the religious nationalists they are thats what they are they are not rooted in the last off the docks christian. Viewpoints you cant find this in true christian values and so what were challenging people is read the bible look at look at what history says look at what the ology says now again the slave master had his own religion that doesnt make it right just because he had it young and thats why you had to abolitionists and Frederick Douglass and thomas and others who said no that is not christan it is something but its not christan it is a religion maybe the religion of racism but its not christianity youve called for a quote moral impeachment of donald trump what does that mean exactly yeah. What