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ALJAZ Studio B Unscripted July 11, 2024

Detention until sentencing. Next week, all 3 of them had pleaded guilty to charges relating to the protest of june 21, 2019. Much of todays Court Session was dominated by the prosecution showing evidence off that day showing thousands of people who blockaded that police headquarters, but mainly focusing on the 3 of them shouting slogans and calling on the Police Commissioner to come out. Now, before going into court, joshua warm had spoken to the press and said that he had expected this outcome. He was not surprised that he would be going to jail. This would be the 4th time. Hes going to jail the 1st time within 2017 when he was just a teenager. And at that time it said stop waves throughout hong kong. But now the arrest, the charging of political activists. Democracy activists has become a common occurrence in a very different hong kong. Weve seen in the past few months, emmons, who think theyve launched a missile. And aramco fuel distribution station in saudi arabia is western port, city of jeddah, saudi arabia hasnt confirmed or denied the claims Spokesman Says that Foreign Companies operating in the kingdom should exercise caution warning that military operations will continue. The head of the u. S. Vaccine program says that the 1st shots could be rolled out as 1st as soon as december, the 11th. A day after regulators meet to decide on the emergency use of a vaccine produced by pfizer and its german partner by antec. The plan is to vaccinate 20000000 people before the end of the year. Our plan is to be able to ship vaccines to the immunization sites within 24 hours from the approval. So i would expect maybe on day 2, after approval on the 11th or on the 12th of december, hopefully the 1st people will be immunized across the United States across all states. In all the areas where this, the state department of health will have told us where to deliver the vaccine, Donald Trumps legal team is appealing a Pennsylvania Court ruling which dismissed in a sense to invalidate millions of malin votes. Its the latest setback in trumps bid to overturn the results of the u. S. President ial election. More details have been released about the discovery of a mass grave in mexico. The state prosecutor in jail. Isco state has confirmed 113 bodies been found so far. 2 other sites are being excavated. Ethiopias Prime Minister has given rebels in the northern tigre, a region until weapons day to surrender. Government forces are threatening it all out. Assault on the regional capital. Ballots are being counted in bikini president ial and parliamentary elections millions to despite the threat of attacks by groups president seeking another term, it was predicted to be a tight race and 2 leading opposition counted have say the vote has been tainted by fraud. Speight is sending more police to senegal, theyll be targeting criminal networks by the recent surge in refugees and migrants coming to the canary islands. This year has seen a 10 fold increase in arrivals. Opposition parties are rallied in pakistan, calling for the Prime Minister to step down. Government opponents, cuse, the military of rigging b election that brought him run cars con to power 2 years ago. An activist behind the internet phenomenon known as the ice bucket challenge has died at the age of 37. 00. Patrick quinn was cofounder of the campaign, which raised millions of dollars for research into a less than you want to condition more probably. As lou gehrigs disease by up to date his studio b. Unscripted. d if you obey the market for 30 years, you begin to worship it and believe it was probably a lot of the purpose of the tyrant tried to make anything else unimaginable the 1st dictatorship of the dictatorship. In your mind, theyre almost superheroes. The only super heroes going to save us is all shells. And thats what 99. 00 means. Its all just like you said uncool nation and not to be until fascist. The radical human family crabapple, a writer journalist, and artist guantanamo is a place that runs on secrecy and on censorship. But its not just i had an advantage, i could drive around the censorship. As a journalist, i spent much of my time covering protests all over the world. The people in the streets today, the same people whod been on the streets protesting against austerity. 6 to sell up my document, people fighting oppression, often against impossible odds. I drew this right next to the right cops. I explore how will Global Economic system pave the way to a new author with art and with words, i document the ways that people are fighting a lot of really technology provide the solutions to all the tools we use to communicate and organize, become our undoing for all we sleep, Global Social dystopia was paul mean you share something, were both people that are, were deeply changed by 2011, a year of mass uprisings that spread from wisconsin to egypt to new york to greece, to syria. I got my start as a journalist, going down to Zuccotti Park where the occupy wall street protest encampment was and trying to draw the people there. You covered pretty much everything. So what about tell me what 2011 meant, paul . Well, i think it was the rebirth of the anticapitalist imagination and id seen the imagination die. I was born in 1960. So my dads generation coal miners, cotton spinners, very heavily trade unionized. There was much to and for me, the kind of death of imagination was about the soviet union collapsed. The never, i never cared of the soviet union old, most of people i knew who call themselves left wing. We cared about all ability to what sociologists call to have agency. We saw the ability of groups of people to change the world and then we saw that smashed. And then im covering the student protests here in london. And suddenly we sort of a new kind of person emerge where you realize youre witnessing a historic rebirth of something of a media its, its the imagination the abilities to say in your mind, this kind of capitalism isnt working. A carbon based economy isnt working dictatorship after dictatorship, suddenly looks illegitimate and weak and stupid and elderly. So we can change things. Thats what i think it was. I mean, we both know because we covered it, you know, and were right in the middle of it. The things went wrong with it, but to me its a bigger moment than a 989 for the berlin wall is a bigger moment than 68. Its the turn of history back towards the possibility that everything you see. Oh, so this window, this financially corrupt hierarchical world could warm day. Thank you. In a way that favors people, beings was not some tried to create a sort of utopia and microcosm yet every single one of those squares, whether it was tough or your square in egypt, or whether it was you couldnt park was a place where they were trying out a new society, there was always a free kitchen and most importantly, there was always a library, right . These are places where even in really sexist societies, women, you know, they stood as predators, right. And these places, they didnt just fizzle out. Thats always the narrative. Now they were violently smashed. They were murdered, in some cases or in other cases like in my city, they were just beaten and you know, shoveled away with dump trucks. But the truth is that except in a few places like tunisia, the protests of 2011 that they did fail. And i want to ask why, why did they fail and did they fail . And i wrong maybe a challenge, but i dont. I think its quite hard to succeed when your own armed and there are militarized Police Forces whose job it is to, to smush your head. I think they didnt, they didnt fail in this sense. With what i noticed is that there was the network, the Information Network created, a resilience social cycle is no talk as if for the 1st time in maternity i. E. , 400 years. Were back to a point where all minds can be hyper social with each other without having to stand in a Public Square and hold a meeting. So i think thats what wasnt defeated. There was a sudden realisation that lost people. My generation thought, you know, these guys wandering around with the ear buds, you know, the why ear buds are individualised, and theyre in a bubble and they dont care about anything else. But what we didnt realize is that that bubble was full of networked connections. And thats what i think the most profound impact of it was. I mean, most of us been profound for you because youre rod, it most clearly changed under the impact of having this iconic protest take place almost outside your door. It changed everything for me, occupy wall street felt like love, occupy wall street was the space where i found my political voice, where i realized that i could be smart, where i realized i could speak before occupy. I was an artist, a pretty well known artist in my world, but one who spent all of her time drawing in nightclubs, drawing the sort of rich Hedge Fund People who had destroyed the world and then drawn my glittering friends who danced for them and entertained them and i became a writer because of occupy i was arrested the 1st anniversary of i remember, i remember meeting me. You sent me a message of the pictures that you do, people and see that you got your hands behind your back and looking pretty defiant. I was pretty defiant, i had a police officer, i grabbed me by the arm, pull me into the street and arrest me for blocking traffic. And my 1st piece of writing that ever really meant anything was an article about my arrest. And i wasnt angry because i had such a bad arrest. I didnt know what hit me. You know, its certainly was a far easier arrest than you know, black and brown. People in america face every day for doing nothing. But i was just so angry at the lightness with which arrest was taken, such as violence was taken america and i wanted to write about it. And i didnt want to just sort of him to round things the way art can do, right. I wanted to say clearly what was wrong, and so thats, thats how i became a writer. On top of the writing, you worked on a collaborative book about what was going grease, the altars self change, didnt it . But what i remember you did this big iconic series of paintings called shell game, where you basically reminded me of hieronymous bush only with only with under couplets cash. And theres lots and lots of figures in every wall that it all based around a big figure which it symbolizes something. And then a clone of a crowd of protesters. And suddenly the crowd is in, is almost like at the center of what youre drawing, an and then, and the drawings. They pick up the people real people pick up your drawings and hold them up from demonstration. I mean that this was cooler than any galleries ive ever had. I had artwork that i would be sketching things from occupied during the day and then a few hours later theyre be out on the streets being used as protesters just they just printed them in exactly. Iraq and iran are, you know, run them off and were holding them. And you know, theres always this artificial dichotomy right, between art, which is supposed to be terribly bad. And, you know, politics, right . But i think both you and me are people that we have joined those 2 things. Well, i mean the, the me is that as a news journalist at the time, i mean, remember, ive been covering economics, i mean, and korea economics. And business is, you know, without wanting to criticize anybody who does it is boring. I mean, literally, you know, i mean, the structure of the world, it is, you go to join interrogated, but you know, one Quarterly Results after another. And, and, and then im standing on on 5th avenue in new york, outside Lehman Brothers at 9 am. And there are people carrying their goods in, in a paper box because the banks gone bust and then the state, the american state steps in and saves capitalism. After 20 years. I remember i had to take this stuff, you know, lying down for 20 years. But the state has no role in the system and it was obvious to anyone that this form of capitalism was doing the way it changed. My journalism is on block to me. All my colleagues on newsnight used to say, we should say why we so stupid. Why we saw on free in the way we speak, and we kind of whisper to each other. Its because we said, because every one of those fears that were going to say, bush is a war criminal, live on air monitoring ourselves with a monitoring your so makes you kind of clench, insert syria and shouldnt the 2008 made me realize this form of capitalism is doomed one of the things that strikes me is how much of our present moment comes out of that year. That year of 2011, there is a new series of horizontal network. Protests protests led by young people, led by queer people, led by women in puerto rico where my father is from one 3rd of the island, was out in the streets, protesting against the corrupt governor ricky rajjo. And they drove him out of power. The 1st time. This ever happened in puerto rican history. One 3rd of people, right . There are protests in iraq that are being met with extraordinary violence by the state. But still young men and especially young women, are out in squares, you know, asserting their dignity, asserting their right to live in a country that isnt equipped talk recy and people in power for the shoe. But what is driving these things are either pure economics or you for the rest of the get over. It was what it was made, this repetitive pattern over and over again. How princes 2011, me tell you the example of the, of lebanon or the iraqi protest. It is people who are literally prepared just on the streets and be shocked because they cant see a future. But what is it that you think they want . Dignity. I think people want to get a people of course, want decent jobs and they want to be fed. They want to power grid that works right. But above all, theres the sense of humiliation in puerto rico, people carried signs and they chanted about dignity, put that it had a hurricane 2 years ago called maria and 4000 people died in the aftermath and they didnt just die from like, you know, the storm or drowning that is that they died from neglect, from the neglect that was done by the American Government to support the rico as a colony and from the neglect, by the corrupt local elite. And the spark that kicked off those protests was that the point that he can center for investigative journalism, published chats where ricky rowe say, oh, the governor, joe and his friends were joking about feeding the bodies of elderly people who died in the hurricane. Vultures. And so you went and drew that normally drew you to pause in the reconstruction because because again, its like flu is like bone, dry fluidity. Isnt that exactly . Should lead a journalist . Is an artist. Surely an artist is the trying to really, you know, rewire, the grid was a feeling. I mean, when i went back, i hadnt been back since i was a little kid. Great. And i hadnt been back since my grandparents died and i had not been as connected with that part of myself. And then when i saw not just that the hurricane, it happened. But like my friends, you know, in the mountains that they didnt have any like Running Water or power. They had to wait on line 20 hours for gas. I took the 1st flight, i could afford down the plane was entirely filled with other, with the deacons. And we are all carrying duffel bags filled with water filters and batteries and anything you can take us even if youre going to report like what sort of jerk shows have at their friends house for their friend. Doesnt have any fresh food and where they have to get the water out of the side of the mountain and they dont bring anything to help. Right. And for me, the thing that struck me the most was that what save, put the recall in this is what i think will save all of us in times of collapse and Climate Change. It was the solidarity of people. It was not the state, it was not the n. G. O. S, it was not like rich people with a lot of money. It was people went to their elderly neighbors and they checked in on them and they set up mutual aid kitchens. They cleared roads with machetes, if they had to, they set up clinics. People went from, you know, town to town in puerto rico, to bring water. They set up a Massive Network of Solidarity Centers and was from the Solidarity Centers that the protests that overthrew the governor came, that it was from that not just the centers themselves, but also that, that was right. And we can do this. We have been abandoned, but we can do this. We have dignity, we have asserted our dignity by clear in our roads and feeding each other. So this play that i wrote called why its kicking off everywhere, which is based on the book. I tried to do a sort of instant history of the way elites work, what to do about this explosion of hope and freedom. And they tried 1st of all censoring the internet. The next thing they tried was switching off the internet is what they wanted to. The next thing is that they do the kind of propaganda that doesnt work, but in the end, i think they came up with an ingenious solution which should have been what we should have expected because this information theory was a warm watch. Sub is an Information Network most effectively is noise. Exactly. And what they did is they said stop trying to just censor the stove. Just fill the entire inforce fear full of rubbish. And what do we do about that . Mean you, in all of different ways of trying to tell something that some people call truth, what do you do about it . Something very hard, right . And my last book was about syria that i did that amazing syrian journalist, not one he and anyone who has reported on syria knows that there is an intense just information campaign. Were crimes by the assad regime have been proven over and over and over again. And yet on social media, on the internet, theres just this attempt to flood that space with doubt and to smear journalists and 1st responders. Right. And its very dispiriting at 1st right to us, you know, people who are trying to report and i think for people who are trying to learn the truth, a lot of them just, they shrug their shoulders and theyre like, everyone lies. Its all nonsense and they sort of tune out, however ice, think that sometimes one of the functions of art right art is to distill and what we need now is focus as well. And with that, i want to open up to questions. You have been talking about agency and the role technology. So i would like to ask, what is your take on the r

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