A military assault on rough foot would be an unbearable escalation, giving 1000 smart tvs millions and forcing and the thousands in sleep. The police and to be cranked down on protest system and stretching against georges so called foreign influence bill plus wise and bob white has just introduced a new gold backed currency called physic the is 22. 00 g m t and we begin this hour in the us with university protest, see no sign of of biasing students at campuses from the east to the west coast of valley to stay intensive in cabinets until the moms of miss. Now, early at the university of north carolina, chapel hill, pupils took down the American Flag and raised the palestinian flag on step of the building. At lumbee, a university in new york students occupying hamilton full have barricaded themselves inside the building. Now thousands of cooling for the academic institutions to comp time as well and urging in to us military age. Us, we have correspondence covering this story at u. C. L. A. In los angeles, the Travis County jail in austin and at Columbia University in new york, where we will begin with l. Just areas that i said by and uh, did i say everyone, this is weve been mentioning has been focusing on what happened and its still happening in hamilton. Can you just want to see the consequences for the students involved . And i guess the momentum with that has given other people to come out and support them so definitely were still here outside of Columbia University of our over 90 group of students to cohort. They renamed it after he and roger who was that 6 year old killed the by these riley military. They played with that name and they, we made in there were, outside students have showed up to show the remaining inside of the university as a student right now, the only essential personnel and the students that live inside of the counselors are being allowed in. But the people that you can see right here have not been allowed to go inside. On the other side, you can see that some of the students that are currently inside of me, i have come close to the gate. Theyre still there. Theyre saying that theyre under the diversity is trying to isolate the process to force them to leave us with the code hard down for a senior inside the University Hearing about the university has said that theyre going to take it over the building. Weve got a deadline on monday, the have to leave by 2 pm on monday and, and theyre going to be the next time. Many of the others are demanding the funds on the home. But its a profit on the war. Theyre all ones. Im not misty on the students that are doing that sometimes because of what the, the, the cost of this house posted in the insights are becoming come inside on campus is now somebodys been replacing the star spangled banner. For example, has a few hours ago, the point where they, we face these parts for many of the students are using the same thing right now for the remain sweet. Theyre not going anywhere. Canceled the university taught me. Thanks so much todays a today. So by for us the, at Columbia University will how to jo, castro joins us now from austin, texas, and you were the Travis County jail with the purchases that were suggested. I have been taken as a actually being said to be released yet. And what exactly have they been charged with there has been a slow trickle of the protesters that are being released according to university of texas, austin, administration, 79 people were arrested for mondays protests. And that they had been charged with. Uh, were seeing a lot of criminal trespassing as the major charge here. And now more than 24 hours later, still the vast majority remain inside the jail thats behind me. And thats despite the calls that youre hearing behind me of not only for palestine, the free those protesters. These are you, teen students, some faculty member and other members of the Austin Community that houses a visual overnight waiting for every last one of those arrested to be released. And joining us is a guest who is an attorney has been helping some of those that ive been to change this as well as some of the thanks for joining us. Tell me about the charges that these individuals are facing. And some of the criticism that, you know, this started out as a peaceful protest. So are these charges valid . I think its important to note discounts for these continue to be peaceful protests. They started as peaceful protests. And that never changed. And the students are protesting. And theyre exercising a right constitutionally guaranteed to them at a public university. No, them broke any laws that the university of Texas Police Department threatened them with a criminal trespass warning if they refuse to disperse, which is something they shouldnt have been asked to do in the 1st place. So in, in sort to answer a question, no, i dont think these charges are valid. How many have been released to your knowledge and what is, what is it that they are going to experience now . So im just having been here a couple of hours today, it seems like only a handful, probably no more than 5 or 6 if i had to guess have been released. Obviously that the students have been here for a very long time. And im sorry, it goes without saying being and being in a holding cell being and county lock up is traumatized thing and experience enough for kids this young. Now that this is the 2nd wave of arrest a week ago there was another. Busy action against protest, sisters who were peaceful as you said, and it ended up that those people all have their charges dropped because there was insufficient evidence against the best in the county attorney or south side. Do you see that some of those similar legal issues with the charges against the newly arrested protesters . Absolutely, and you know, aside from the fact that whatever, notice the county claims they gave the students to disperse before they were arrested. They have been, they have walk, holds back and forth between what kind of threats they want to, to issue to students. Theyve sent inconsistent e mails to students and to faculty and to staff. And they have that one point claim that they would be charging them with criminal trespass at another. They claim that they would be charging with them instruction. And so that in about, in and of itself, i think is enough of the notice issue that the students, the students wouldnt have otherwise known that anything that they were doing was illegal on. Im and i and i think that nobody in their position would have thought that what they were doing was illegal, especially as a public university. We appreciate your expertise of that attorney, but also interested in your reactions as a human being the images of the protests from yesterday, students the needs students being taken down so violently. What was your response . Im absolutely disgusted, but im still overwhelmingly proud of all these kids. I honestly my heart explodes. Every time i turn the tv on, every time i come down here to the jail, i am so incredibly proud of them. I cant believe their own governments treating them like this and you know what . Theyre undeterred. I, when i was in school, i would never have been brave enough to do this. And so every time i meet with one in the jail or id come across one when im, when im here at the outside the jail. I let them know how proud of them they are. And i hope that they never stop. And i hope that they also know theres always going to be an attorney that will come and get you and you will not be lost or forgotten in their thank you roller. She and other attorneys that actually offer their time for free. Every single one of these protesters, im just, they are receiving free legal representation that might help them through this criminal justice system. But then of course, theyre also facing what could be punishment coming from the youtube ministration. I asked specifically what will happen to these students because there were some threats. A suspension was told that because of his exam, we had these students had to be left in peace, not knowing what happened to them in the future. Thanks so much for all of that, heidi, heidi joe castro for us there in austin, texas. Reynolds joins us now line from the university of california in los angeles and brought can you just give us an update on exactly what was happening there this morning as well. Its quite a contrast from what heidi was showing you and explaining to you a moment ago. Things here are quite peaceful of you can see the camp behind me, the protest encampment which is occupied, a large a quad area. And so far, there are been no instances of police come storming in, in, uh, uh, riot gear with clubs, uh, as happened there in texas. Uh, no Good Students being hauled away in. Hancock says happened to the university of southern california. No student is being a pepper spray does happen to overnight at the university of new mexico. So this shows that there is a different way of handling these protests. And i would also point out that on the wider campus life goes on, students who are not involved in the protests are going to their classes in doing their thing. And so lets get a little more insight into the protests and what and the situation here on campus, id like to invite vincent door, who is a, you see a graduate student and a, a member of the, uh, one of the protesting students since and thank you very much for appearing on al jazeera um i wanted to ask you about the Public Perception of the, the Us Senate Minority leader Mitch Mcconnell earlier today on the floor. The congress describe all these campus broke just as creating cauldrons called rings of chaos. You see a quote of chaos here. No, i dont see a cauldron of chaos here. What i see here is the members of b, u. C. Like community who are on their 6th day of demonstrating their solidarity with the policy and people, as weve seen, the 6 months is rarely genocide in gaza. Weve seen 75 plus years of this really occupation of palestine. And weve seen the discovery of mass graves under the aisle shift on us or hospitals in gaza. We see that the Israeli Military is planning on separating men from women and children in the rest. The refugee camp on the border of egypt and the gaza strip. And weve decided that enough is enough, and were here to call for our university for the you see, to divest from corporations, profiting from this is rarely genocide and to call for an immediate comprehensive ceasefire in gaza. And so far as the university engaged in dialogue with the protesters, weve mostly encountered the university in the form of their security forces. On sunday, they released a statement stating that they would not divest the portfolio from defense contractors and other corporations that profit also of genocide and. And they use the term Academic Freedom to defend their refusal to divest, which is not an Academic Freedom we recognize. So as a graduate student vincent, i understand your shortly on your way to go and assist in teaching a class here, which begs the question again to this Public Perception that these protests have completely destroyed life on campus. I mean, youre going to go teach a class and then go back into the, the camp. So our kids are, i hate these words. Kids are the, the students here, are they still getting their education . Yeah, i would say these protests that are the result of students getting an education their students who have learned about the world that theyve learned about morality and theyre applying those frameworks. Students are still attending classes. Students are learning inside the encampment. There are kitchens. There are, theres a community library. So this is a site of learning and a result of learning. And we think its piece a University Security crackdowns actually shut down places of learning in the United States. And this is, there is no instruction happening to campus as close to students and faculty. Were trying to make us a university where learning happens and where its safe for all students. Vincent store, thank you very much for speaking with that. Were out of time, but appreciate that. Been said thank you so much. And just further to what vincent was was saying there, id like to point out which has not perhaps been pointed out often enough, but its certainly on the minds of faculty and students. Here is that in gaza, all of the universities of been destroyed by is really bombing attacks, and many faculty and students have been killed in israels war on casa. Thanks so much. Thanks so much for that, rob rob reynolds for us there at u. C. L. I plopped a week of Hunger Strikes and, and camerons students at Brown University in rhode island site, they have secured when the universities leadership has agreed to vote on a proposal to withdrawal investment from companies that have ties to as ro street as they have been demanding for universities to divest from fins, they believe profit from israel is more on gaza of more on this is bringing ready a residence like and a boot l. A shop who represent the brown davis coalition at Brown University that joining us from providence, rhode island, thanks so much for being with us here on the al jazeera festival. How about the win . Is this for you and can just give us an idea of how tough the negotiations were with the university. So yeah, i mean, ill say that this is a really big win for us. Browse that is formally is the best in process since 2019 when we brought a proposal or brought together some companies facilitating and profiting off of this really occupational part right now dennis, i have not homeless has been stole of waste was not allowed to do any 19 this year, a lot of i was arrested alongside 19 other due to she is 41. The other students were arrested. Im not role or Hunger Strike. Im to the university to be just a man, just a man that has been standing for 5 years. And now you have gone all the way where is a force there . Yeah. And they are now legally required to hear us out of the preparations for me. Yes, a food, but couldnt, can you just explain how that actually works . I understand its not until october. And just how confident are you that it will be past ever needs to be on seeing your loved be heavy to make sure ensure that the corporation boat is passed on this university finally plus tires, the occupation, and the ongoing. Josiah. More importantly, this is the 1st of bigotry, and it was fine on the 1st time arguments have been met at the university as chris was via credit, but just thought to be talked as a barrier between the students and the corporation, which i have exhausted all of them in starters, austin got arrested for to your kind of channels. We have 4 meetings all that i going straight to the corporation during camping and use. A lot of the cabinet. A doing unfortunately is really, this is a small i think its a, it will be one of many big trees that we will get until we achieved before that investment. Yeah, i want to clarify that is what is going on and theyve got it as an ongoing genocide, as long as opposed to the book and now in a pending amazing process for over a 1000000 people latest each. Now, most of the, all of the universities we have, theyve been protest of, have outright dismissed them on to dive a. So, why is brown different i dont want to stay around the ministrations are present, should be offered any phrase for this decision. A decision has been part of years and years. They are 2 on file as of the students there. Sure. Part of the power for me, for palestine in this country. The only difference is, you know, by, you know, not, not compared to any other universities, not, you know, for a particular reason we have to start or the process a lot. Were even pushing for a long time. And i think we hope that other schools would start the process is were recently, well see, you know, this small way. And like i said that i dont understand e r o theyre even understand. But i know with all our hearts to be, you know, that they stand behind the people outside. And we know that if they keep pushing all the know towards the, to the bass and dizzy, very, very hard me to pursue that estimate beats the sections these 2 recalls on the University President there uh, christine impacts and his id. I have been concerned about the escalation in inflammatory rhetoric that we have seen recently in the increase in tension. I mean, how will that be handled in the weeks and months say, because this tension clearly isnt going anywhere. Well, 1st of all, the tension and the wrench for a while we see in the states by the government, by a high by members administration, is really all of our cabinets from colombia to brown, all over the country have been peaceful and is the least state of the Us Government that has made by the type of nice us and we have received similar drives from University Police and probably be in our in chairman. And in previous protested demonstrations in terms of escalation. You recognize that you do not chief justice and degree without having to go to us without having to go to escalations are always is that and resist. We are lucky in your life that we have any of those on the investment. This was our initial, the national, what we Hunger Strike the got arrested for my very happy that it got to this level, but we support and we have to sleep. Police appoint other university and in all means that the school is right, 56, that she what they need, which is divestment. Weve helped us as carry out the young versus the other places until the United States and other countries or the cup ties, the occupation just taking a wider look at what is happening around the country at the University Campuses. Does it feel like this movement is really gaining momentum now . Yes, it does. I mean, like i said, you know, the problem was happening for a long time the when the last time. And the reason why theyve gone this far now to this place, we should keep pushing with all our i is the person doing this because this movement is a senior just because the amount of people with them is on the line for the 1st on the rest of the grounds in november to now has grown exponentially as when we see what were looking at you today on the