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specifically reduce sodium and increase things that pretty much we all can agree are pretty good, whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables. why would you let anyone opt out of that? >> well, a couple of things. first of all, it's really not opt out. they're granted a one-year waiver. and it's only for the schools that are finding it hard to meet. what is happening as more students are not eating the food, the participation is going down. and the students that are eating it are throwing the food away. and you're seeing just a tremendous amount of waste. a lot of schools operator on a very tight budget. they're having trouble meeting -- financially trying to meet the standards that are required by them by this act and by the usda as they are telling the schools what they have to do. this is saying if you're having a problem, that you can ask for a waiver and the usda can grant you a waiver. >> what about, though, and i'm curious. you talk about waste being an issue, the kids are throwing it away. the food, and that that adds up.