Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20240714 : vimar

Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20240714

Members has been passed to conservative hq. And stopping children viewing porn online. An age check scheme designed to stop under 18s viewing it expected to be delayed by the government yet again, but will it work when its eventually rolled out . U nless unless every single household in the whole world is asking for the password before you log in, there is no way to police it. If somebody else has a laptop, what do you do . What is he looking at . Now you have watched something accidentally. Hello. Welcome to the programme. Were live until 11 this morning. So there are four left and one of those four will be your next Prime Minister whether you want them or not. So of the four who would you prefer it to be . Let me know victoria bbc. Co. Uk or message us on twitter. Also later well talk to the stars of itvs new sunday night period drama beecham house, starting this weekend, described as downton in delhi. Tom bateman and bssie carter, are live in the studio at around half ten. Before all that, lets bring you a summary of the news so far this morning with annita. By the end of the day well know the final two candidates in the race to be the next Prime Minister. Conservative mps will whittle down the finalfour, with borisjohnson a clear favourite to make the final cut. He has the support of nearly half his fellow mps, while jeremy hunt, michael gove and sajid javid vie for second place. The final decision will be made in a postal ballot by around 160,000 Party Members. Meanwhile, the chancellor will warn the tory leadership contenders that £26 billion the treasury has built up for extra spending or tax cuts will be soaked up, if there is a no deal brexit. In a speech in the city of london this evening, hes expected to say the future Prime Minister will face a stark choice secure an agreement and protect britains prosperity or risk damaging the economy. A former taxi driver has pleaded guilty at the old bailey to drugging four more women. John radford, previously known asjohn worboys, was almost freed from jail last year. The 62 year old has admitted to four further offences in which he drugged women with the intention of sexually assaulting them. Iran and the United States say that an american surveillance drone has been shot down over the strait of hormuz. Irans revolutionary guard say they brought down the Unmanned Aircraft when it entered its airspace. Pentagon sources say their Us Navy Drone was flying in international airspace. Tension remains high in the region following a number of attacks on oil tankers that washington and its allies have blamed on tehran. The uks First Hydrogen powered train has gone on display in warwickshire. Its hoped the hydroflex will be a major step towards removing diesel trains from the rail network. Hydrogen trains are said to be the greenest trains, giving off zero emissions and their only by product is water. The train will be tested on the uk mainline in the next few months. An age check scheme designed to stop under 18s viewing pornographic websites is expected to be delayed for a second time. The controversial changes, which require users to verify their age using personal identification, was due to come into effect next month after already being delayed from april 2018. The reason for the delay is not clear. Young people under 30 are spending less on their social life than the same age group did at the turn of the century. Thats according to a new report from the Resolution Foundation looking at Living Standards amongst different generations. In contrast, people aged over 65 are spending more of their money on things like restaurants and hotels. That is a summary of the main news, back to you, victoria. Good morning. So whos going to take on Boris Johnson . Its a busy day for conservative mps. Theyre voting right now and will again this afternoon to whittle the final four leadership candidates down to two. Barring some bizarre implosion, one of them is certain to be mrjohnson but who else . Its incredibly close between jeremy hunt, michael gove and sajid javid. Lets talk to alistair burt, the former Foreign Office minister who is supporting jeremy hunt and worked for borisjohnson when he was foreign secretary and nicky morgan joins us from central lobby, who is supporting michael gove, welcome to both of you. Let me ask you, is it because you worked for borisjohnson and you know what hes like to work with that you are supporting jeremy hunt . Because i work with jeremy hunt. I worked with him at the department of health and the foreign origins Foreign Office and im voting for him positively because of the policies ive seen, its not a comparison but i knowjeremy well and he has the right characteristics to do thejob. And he has the right characteristics to do the job. Are you resigned to borisjohnson being to do the job. Are you resigned to Boris Johnson being the to do the job. Are you resigned to borisjohnson being the next uk Prime Minister . Not in any way. When you take the debate to the country and you look at the conservative membership and they get a chance over a period of weeks to examine the candidates, remember, boris has been a bit more shy than he normally is with interviews and the like, so when you go through the process of hustings and interviews to come, i hope people will see thatjeremy is a quality candidate and a serious man for what will be a difficultjob to come. Nicky morgan, have you cast your vote or are you on your way to do it . Im on the way to do it but the polls open five minutes ago. Thank you for stopping to talk to us on the way. Your man, michael gove, seems to be catching jeremy hunt. Why do you think that is . Well, people have been listening to the debates on the hustings and i think many people in the party understand that the reason im supporting michael and he has a strong track re cord michael and he has a strong track record in government, but he also has been an original brexiteers who led the vote to leave campaign and it is important we have people who wa nt it is important we have people who want brexit, and we will have them in the final two, to debate in front of the members and michael is the best placed person to hold boris to account. You will know that philip hammond, your chancellor, says a no deal brexit is going to harm the economy and he is expected to say this ina economy and he is expected to say this in a speech tonight and would devour the £26 £26 billion brexit war chest. Are you clear that michael gove would not take the uk out of the eu without a deal . Michael, like all of the candidates left in the race has said that if it really came to that choice between iio really came to that choice between no brexit and no deal he would have to contemplate no deal. Are you co mforta ble to contemplate no deal. Are you comfortable with that . At the end of the day you cannot compel two sides to make an agreement. There is an agreement on the table that has not passed the house of commons and michael set out a clear plan of how he would try to change that to get the agreement through and in the debate on tuesday night when there was all the other noise between candidates about brexit, michael was the one that cut through with the plan as to what he wanted to do. He emphatically said he wanted there to bea emphatically said he wanted there to be a deal and he has been leading the department most exposed to no deal, so he knows the downsides and was also brave enough to say that it if it takes a bit longer than the sist if it takes a bit longer than the 31st of october, we should take the time to get the deal right and he is correct. Are you clear what his plan is for the lower sales tax . You said he would replace vat and that brought in around £9 billion per year. So how much less will his new tax bring in and how will he make up the shortfall . I dont know the numbers and details. But it is quite important. That is why we will have a members contest and michael, being one of the two will be quizzed on the details. Have you not ask him . Ive talked to him about it but britains taxis are more and more complicated and there is a £12 billion gap between what should have been collected and what was last year. As we know, more and more sales are happening online, so its notjust vat, he sales are happening online, so its not just vat, he talked about Business Rates and as chair of the select committee we are doing an enquiry into Business Rates at the moment and looking at business taxes as well and i think it is right. The world is changing, the world of retail and the tax system has to keep up to date with that. Michael is right to identify that as a challenge for the country. Do you think tactical voting is going on . The idea that borisjohnson once jeremy hunt alongside him in the final two because he seesjeremy hunt asa final two because he seesjeremy hunt as a weaker candidate . final two because he seesjeremy hunt as a weaker candidate . I am shocked, as many people in britain will be, that you have suggested that any of my colleagues are engaging in tactical voting. But it is not a game. The best thing to do is to vote for the people you think will be best to lead the country and ive been clear from the beginning of this that it isjeremy hunt. I dont care what others do. Tactical voting is wrong and there isa tactical voting is wrong and there is a risk of it backfiring and it is the wrong thing to do. We have a solemn responsibility. The people of the uk are not getting their chance to decide who will be the Prime Minister. It will come in time through a general election where there have been changes Prime Minister in government before but we ta ke minister in government before but we take the responsibility seriously and jeremy is a strong candidate to be Prime Minister and i also think that if borisjohnson is the other name on the ballot paper that members of the conservative party will have a chance to choose the best of the candidates and i think with the competence and background, it will be jeremy. Have you picked up it will be jeremy. Have you picked up from people that Rory Stewarts boats are going tojeremy hunt . Up from people that Rory Stewarts boats are going to jeremy hunt . They will be going in all Different Directions Rory Stewarts votes. Would jeremy hunt take the uk out of the eu without a deal . Nicky characterises it well in relation to virtually all the candidates. I thinkjeremy is the best bet to get a deal and therefore not put the uk and the position of having to choose between no deal, something very destructive and other choices. I think that is why it is so important to back a good negotiator and someone to back a good negotiator and someone with a Good Business background and someone who can bring people on board to negotiate an gettis in the position of getting a deal because no deal would be disruptive which is why i am backing him because i think you will avoid the situation. Would you describe yourself as a realist . A pragmatist . Pretty much. I can see nicky smiling. 0k, 0k. Your man reckons he can open up the Withdrawal Agreement with the eu . Sort out the backstop . That is fantasy, isnt it . You have to have people who believe they can make progress from where we are. We have the basic arrangement between the eu and uk, 550 pages between us and that wont all disappear but whatjeremy has said that if you approach people who are facing a common problem, the eu does not want no deal. Ireland does not want no deal and people want a solution. If you approach it reasonably and pragmatically to get that, you have a more strong chance of getting a result. If you approach with a hard line on demand this that and the other, as some of boriss supporters have tended to give the impression in the last three years, you will not get the deal. That is why i thinkjeremy will succeed. Kenneth clarke said on tv last night were that the candidates or robbers because they are pretending they can get a tweak to the deal. He sees the Irish Foreign minister, jeremy hunt, he sees these colleagues in europe and he knows how anxious they are to get a deal and they will work with someone get a deal and they will work with someone reasonable and practical and serious and diligent to get it, and i think that isjeremy hunt. Serious and diligent to get it, and i think that is jeremy hunt. 0k. Nicky morgan, have you picked up that Rory Stewarts votes might go to michael gove . They will go all over the place. We are definitely picking up some support and we will have to see when the result is announced that 1pm. They are not going to go to borisjohnson though, are they . It seems unlikely they would make that switch to boris but i never second guess colleagues and i think we will wait to see what happens at one p m. Alistair burt, as you said, former Foreign Office minister and Boris Johnson said as you said, former Foreign Office minister and borisjohnson said on tuesday night he did not think his mistake in describing the british iranian mum injail mistake in describing the british iranian mum in jail described mistake in describing the british iranian mum injail described as a journalist didnt make any difference. And you were there when he made those comments and potentially had to do clearing up afterwards, so do you agree that is comments did not make any difference . Macro yellow i have met her little girl, her father in tehran and its a very difficult situation. But it might be if boris becomes Prime Minister. The iranians watch every programme and every word thatis watch every programme and every word that is said and i will not say any more. I dont know how hard all of my colleagues over all the time that Nazanin Zaghari ratcliffe has been detained, and there are some in iran who are trying to assist this, but she is not part of the Leadership Campaign. Do you think she is part of the Leadership Campaign . Does it not go to the character of somebody who wants to be your leader and next Prime Minister when they make errors like that . I understand what alistair is saying and hes right, asa alistair is saying and hes right, as a former Foreign Office minister but im afraid it does go to the character of the person and you should leave the details of this very difficult and tragic case, and i thinkjeremy very difficult and tragic case, and i think jeremy has very difficult and tragic case, and i thinkjeremy has done a very, very good job in standing up for Nazanin Zaghari ratcliffe good job in standing up for Nazanin Zaghari ratcliffe and making good job in standing up for Nazanin Zaghari ratcliffe and making the case to the iranians government, but i think the candidates stand on their track record of delivering government and that is why i am supporting michael having followed him into the Education Department where he made a huge difference to this countrys schools but alistair is right, we dont want the details to become part of the leadership contest but decisions made in previousjobs must have a bearing on their suitability for the top job. So you dont think borisjohnson is suitable as a top job Prime Minister asa suitable as a top job Prime Minister as a result chris matt that was one of the factors in the decision but its more about believing that michael is the right person rather than deciding the others are wrong. Would you serve under him . Under boris . I think its extremely unlikely on the basis of everything ive said over the last few weeks or months that this would even be a remote possibility, so im not even thinking about it. Kevin on Facebook Says Boris Johnson thinking about it. Kevin on Facebook Says borisjohnson seems to be the only one willing to fully respect the democratic process. How do you respond to that . Jeremy, like myself, voted to remain in the eu and we have demonstrated our support for the democratic process by supporting the Withdrawal Agreement, triggering article 50 and that demonstrates a great deal of respect for the democratic process. Nick on twitter says sajid javid would appeal to a broader electorate, michael gove and jeremy hunt are safe but could be accused of more of the same. Johnson is a buffoon who cannot be trusted with the diplomacy neededin cannot be trusted with the diplomacy needed in these times. And on twitter says is a conservative voter all my life it saddens me that they cannot offer candidate in which i have any confidence. And malcolm says thatjeremy have any confidence. And malcolm says that jeremy hunt have any confidence. And malcolm says thatjeremy hunt sounds and looks convincing and can be trusted to do looks convincing and can be trusted todoa looks convincing and can be trusted to do a good job as pm. I want to ask a question finally about charisma. People who know Boris Johnson say he is charismatic and, in comparison, somebody like jeremy hunt isjust in comparison, somebody like jeremy hunt is just a in comparison, somebody like jeremy hunt isjust a bit boring. What in comparison, somebody like jeremy hunt is just a bit boring. What do you say to that . I think they will see more ofjeremy over the next month or so as he goes round the country and does the hustings.

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