Transcripts For BBCNEWS Beyond 100 Days 20240714 : vimarsana

Transcripts For BBCNEWS Beyond 100 Days 20240714

Iran blames america. Youve proved to be a liar. You are not seeking to negotiate. If you did we would have negotiated. The head of americas Border Protection agency steps down amid outrage over the treatment of children being detained. Also on the programme. Tomorrow, in miami, it all begins. The first televised debates. 25 democrats lining up for 2020 and the right to challenge donald trump. The five hottest heat waves in europe since records began have all come in the last 20 years. There is another coming this week. And it is going to be a scorcher. Hello, i amjane 0brien in washington, Christian Fraser is in london. Stung by. Stung by criticism from his rival jeremy hunt, that he was trying to slink into number 10 via the back door, mrjohnson is suddenly more visible and hes commited to leaving the eu by the new deadline. If i become pm, he tweeted, we will leave the eu on 31st 0ctober, deal or no deal. Today i have asked jeremy hunt whether he will also commit to this date, no matter what. So far, jeremy hunt has said he is committed to leaving, but if there was no prospect of a deal by oct 31 then he would want to avoid the disruption of no deal by perhaps, delaying for a short period. Mr hunt pledged today that if he became Prime Minister he would increase the defence budget by £15 billion over the next five years. The foreign secretary has been sitting down with our Political Editor laura kuenssberg. Jeremy hunt wants to persuade you he ought to be the next Prime Minister. He knows that means first of all untangling an enormous mess. What would you do on day one in number ten to get us out of the eu at the end of october . We have to approach this differently. It is the biggest constitutional crisis that i can remember, so what i would do differently to what we have had before as i would have the dup in my negotiating team, the er g for the brexit purists, i would have scottish and welsh conservatives, because fundamentally i believe there is a deal to be done. What would be different about the deal you hope to achieve . It would be changing the backstop but with some guarantees of no hard porter on the island of ireland for a completely obvious reasons. That approach is not too different from what boris wa nts. Not too different from what boris wants. It would be a Technology Led solution. You are putting forward something that the European Union has said no to on multiple occasions. What they see as it is up to the uk to come up with a solution but of course if you come up with a different solution, something that can work, then we will look at that. But what would it be . It would be a Technology Led solution and i think eve ryo ne Technology Led solution and i think everyone thinks in the next decade we can do all these things online just as the rest of her life is transformed. You wont have a deal u nless transformed. You wont have a deal unless there is a backstop, unless there is a credible idea ready immediately and youre not saying it is ready immediately. Youre talking about within a decade i think it is ready. The eu have not wanted to accept this kind of solution because they hope we stay in the Customs Union where we have to stick to their tariffs but they know now that wont go through parliament. What you are suggesting is that somehow the eu didnt listen to more Creative Ideas because they wanted to keep us closer. This is a negotiation and they are obviously going to negotiate for what is for them the best outcome but the reality is we ended up with a deal thatis reality is we ended up with a deal that is not going to get through parliament and when i talk to people in the eu they understand that. They are keen to see if there is a way through this. Listening to you talk about your brexit plans are similar to talking to borisjohnson about his brexit plans. High on ambition but low on concrete detail. I have been clear about the concrete detail. You are talking about what you would like to do but it is a wish. What is the evidence you could get this done . That is the starting point for any deal, you have to be clear about what you want and it is different to what theresa may was negotiating. The answer to your question is that both boris and i wa nt to question is that both boris and i want to change that deal and the judgment is, who is the person we trust as Prime Minister to go to brussels and bring back that deal . It is about the personality of our Prime Minister. If you choose someone Prime Minister. If you choose someone where there is no trust, there is going to be no negotiation, no deal. You dont trust Boris Johnson and dont think he is trustworthy as Prime Minister . would never make those comments. I would never make those comments. I would serve Boris Johnson. Would never make those comments. I would serve borisjohnson. Let me finish. I would serve Boris Johnson to the very best of my ability. You have just sat there in a race of two and said this is about who we can trust, some we could we can trust like me or someone we cant trust. You are clearly talking about your opponent in this race. you are clearly talking about your opponent in this race. I am saying i am trustworthy. Meeting veterans in chelsea no doubt you would use every moment to try to win but how would he fix what he admits is one of the biggest problem is that the government he is part of failed to fix. What would you do as Prime Minister because your government has been trying to fix social care for yea rs been trying to fix social care for years and nothing has happened. been trying to fix social care for years and nothing has happened. I do think councils need more money but it is also a bit personal responsibility. I think we should be a country where people save for their social care costs just in the same way they say for their pension. It should be something they can opt out of but it should be an automatic thing. Would you put a cap on social care . I would do a deal. If you are prepared to save responsibility during your life we will cut those costs because we need to be a country that rewards people who do the right thing. Do you worry in this contest you may be unfairly squeezed out by somebody with a bigger personality . squeezed out by somebody with a bigger personality . I have been waiting for this moment for 30 years of my life. I have been sitting around that cabinet table thinking how i want to transform this country. You have wanted to be Prime Minister for 30 country. You have wanted to be Prime Ministerfor 30 years. Country. You have wanted to be Prime Minister for 30 years. When did you know . I think if i say that that will put you off 30 years is a very long time. I would love to do this job andi long time. I would love to do this job and i think i can make a difference. Three decades is already a long time to wait. Will tory members keep him hanging on . I have to ask about that photograph that we keep seeing popping up time and again of Boris Johnson keep seeing popping up time and again of borisjohnson and his girlfriend after that row they had. This photograph, this bucolic photograph. Looking very lovey dovey. Photograph. Looking very loveydovey. Boris johnson is no longer a shrinking violet and we know because he has been to the Royal Horticultural Society today, he has been everywhere, on talk radio and on lbc and he was asked about that photograph 26 times by nick ferrari and gave the straight bat answer. Listen. Where did the picture come from . The longer we spend. Where did the picture come from . Where has the picture come from . Where has the picture come from . I am not going to. I think the longer we spend. From . I am not going to. I think the longer we spend. That you know the longer we spend. That you know the picture was being put out, mr johnson . There are all sorts of pictures of me. Did you know the pictures of me. Did you know the picture was out there . Of course i knew there was a picture in existence. Maybe i have been living in the us for so long but i am slightly baffled as to why it merits 26 mentions. Does anybody actually ca re 26 mentions. Does anybody actually care about Boris Johnson 26 mentions. Does anybody actually care about borisjohnson and his girlfriend and whether they have kissed and made up or whether they are still having a row . kissed and made up or whether they are still having a row . I suspect the majority of that 160,000 that are going to vote for borisjohnson probably dont care. I am not an expert in Crisis Management although maybe i should go into Crisis Management when the bbc shuffled me out of the door because he could have nip this in the bud quite early and said this has been a hell of a week, we are stressed and tired and had a row at home, i am sorry to our neighbours, the police said there was nothing to see, lets put it to bed, and instead he has prevaricated and refused to answer the question and refused to answer the question and itjust and refused to answer the question and it just keeps and refused to answer the question and itjust keeps coming back. Kill the story he has not been well advised. I dont think it works saying i dont want to put my family into the public domain. They are in the public domain, he is running to be Prime Minister. And President Trumpjust be Prime Minister. And President Trump just ignores it when be Prime Minister. And President Trumpjust ignores it when it happens to him. President trump warned iran today that an attack on anything american would result in an overwhelming military response. His threat was in response to comments from iranian president hassan rouhani, who said the white house was mentally retarded for imposing new sanctions against the Supreme Leader ayatollah ali khamenei. In a series of tweets the President Trump said the us. Has not forgotten irans use of ieds bombs which killed 2000 americans. Any attack by iran on anything american will be met with great and overwhelming force. In some areas, overwhelming will mean obliteration. No Morejohn Kerry 0bama reffering to the previous administrations appeasement and support for the nuclear deal. The us says its still open to talks but the latest sanctions were met with fury in tehran. It will be, i think, the combination of sanctions and other pressure that does bring iran to the table. At the same time you call for negotiations, you seek to sanction the foreign minister . It is obvious you are lying. If you really wanted to negotiate we would have negotiated. Joining us now from our cambridge studio is Azadeh Moaveni a middle east specialist with the International Crisis group. Lovely to see you. There has been a lot of focus today on this latest round of sanctions and who in particular it targets and a lot of focus on the foreign minister because the foreign minister spends a lot of time here in europe lobbying for a run and if you are serious about the diplomatic channel then why would you lockdown someone like that . Precisely. That is why you heard the reaction that has been coming out of tehran today which underscores the perception they are that the us is not really serious about any kind of engagement, that it is looking for a confrontation, it is looking for a confrontation, it has selected arounds top diplomat which means they couldnt even negotiate a way out of this confrontation. Iran perceives itself to be on the receiving end of economic war with the us at a time when it is waiting for europe to come in with some measures to give it an incentive to stick by what it promised to abide by and then we are confronted with this. There was another interesting thing that happened today, russia, israeland the United States were meeting today and john boltons russian counterpart said the us drone that was shot down last week was in an iranian airspace, contradicting what the americans are saying. Are you at all worried that there are some including john bolton who are trying to create a pretext for war . It seems really clear that there has beena seems really clear that there has been a push from certain circles of washington, certainlyjohn bolton, to push for a confrontation. The whole policy of maximum pressure is designed to push for a confrontation. It has backfired tremendously. You see that iran hasnt changed any kind of posture in the region, it has caused them to a road from within. It has achieved nothing and suddenly we are at the brink of warand nothing and suddenly we are at the brink of war and nothing is working but it seems for some that was the intention to start with. But how much do you think iran is gambling on the possibility that donald trump will avoid war at all costs, especially in the run up to the 2020 election, or that they can just sit him out because he might not win the election . That is very sensible and i presume that is what cooler heads in iran are thinking. To set this out, europe has been encouraging around to abide by the terms of the deal and we are close to the end of the trump term. Escalation has momentum and a logic of its own which is why the moment is so dangerous and that is why i ran, though patient and exercising what you might call a policy of maximum patience, hoping to wait it out, really need some concrete economic incentives to stay patient and to stay abiding by the terms of the deal. Thank you. For all the fiery rhetoric that we get for donald trump on his twitter feed the president has so far resisted the hawks within his team. Last week he called off the air strikes on iran, having learnt that 150 people would probably dies as a result. That restraint has been welcomed but it has sparked a debate in america as to whether the president alone, has the authority, to order strikes withough first going to congress. In an interview with the political newspaper and website the hill, the president said that he does have that power. The acting chief of americas Border Agency resigned. We can head Alexis Simendinger is National Political correspondent for the hill and shejoins me now. Your publication has a pretty wide ranging interview with President Trump in which he talks about the border crisis saying conditions are better underhand than they were under 0bama. We are talking about childrens lives. Why has this become such a political football that seems to lack consensus . It has become a political foot ball consensus . It has become a political football for some of the humanitarian reasons that we would normally attach to separated families and children. The president was trying to be defensive and always to compare himself to previous president s but as he notices from members of congress and within his administration there is a vigorous debate about what can be done, when funding will run out and whether the president s pressure is sending the message. He is trying to transmit the message to Central American nations, do not come, do not send your children. So part of the argument is, we want this to look tough, we wanted to look as if the United States is very tough on migrant families and children, not to make it a cushy home for them because we dont want them to come. This issue over whether donald trump can order the air on his own, hasnt congress abrogated responsibility before without getting involved . Congress abrogated responsibility before without getting involved . M isa very before without getting involved . M is a very good point and having cove red is a very good point and having covered previous president s i know this debate recurs with each president. Part of the problem that congress has is that while there are lawmakers who are interested in the idea that the 2001 authorisation that backed the use of force in the iraq war needs to be updated, there are very few lawmakers who are willing to debate that and actually put their name to a vote on that before a major election. Even though we hear from lawmakers both democrats and republicans that it would not be a bad idea to update this, i saw this debate happen again and again in the 0bama administration. Youre remember that the president then paused on his action in syria because he agreed that he should seek congresss approval and then Congress Backed away. There is a new allegation against the president. A columnist for elle magazine says in her new book that she was sexually assaulted by the president and the fitting room in the 1990s. She hasnt come out before now but his response is also odd. She put he said, she is not my type, which is bizarre response when you are accused of sexually abusing somebody. That was his response in the interview yesterday and it is not a new phrase from the president. He has used this to brush aside these 15 women who offered allegations of Sexual Misconduct against him by saying they are not his type. He also says he believes that she is lying and didnt meet her but then admitted they were photographed together. But he says i was wearing an overcoat and try to describe what is in the photograph. So the president s argument against this is a denial by basically trying to put aside the idea that she has any knowledge of him or had any encounter with him. This goes back to 1995, 1996. She doesnt remember the exact year and there are no corroborating wi

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