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BBCNEWS Beyond 100 Days July 14, 2024

And it may be one small white line to you and me, but its one giant leap for the cattle heading for new pastures. Hello and welcome, im katty kay in washington and david eades is in london. President trump didnt leave prematurely, he signed on to a brief final statement and there were lots of handshakes and smiles. In that respect, this g7 summit was less hostile that last years. But get past the mood music, and on the biggest issues facing the world today, there is little agreement between the Trump Administration and the 6 other major industrialised nations. They dont agree on iran, on russia, on tariffs or on Climate Change. And thats before you get to brexit. The us president seems to have a very clear soft spot for the new Prime Minister, but he doesnt expect much change for borisjohnson out of the eu a very tough negotiator, he says. I really believe that borisjohnson will be a great prime minster. Especially after spending a lot of intense time with him over the last couple of days. Hes very smart and strong. And do you know what else . He loves your country. The british Prime Minister said he had made the case to eu leaders to re negotiate a brexit deal without the irish backstop. I really think that point has now landed. So lets see where we get and i hope that friends and colleagues in parliament will be supportive of our efforts to get this thing done. To get out of the old Withdrawal Agreement and do a much, much better deal. Thats what we need to do. Katya adler, the bbcs europe editor, has been in biarritz for the summit. Its kind of hard to sum up this summit, katya. On the one hand, theres tonnes of things these World Leaders dont agree with. On the other, you have to say it is at least better than last year. Donald trump did not leave early. I think id agree with you there. I think it wasnt a total disaster. Donald trump sort of ripping up the written agreement between the leaders last year and working off in a half. That didnt happen. He was on pretty good behaviour. There were lots of concerns here in france by the host Emmanuel Macron, the president of france, that, yes, donald trump could be offended by something and walk out. Something else that he didnt want dominating the summit was brexit. And he managed to basically manage those two issues if you like. Donald trump knows he will be hosting a Similar International meeting next year. So perhaps he has that in mind and brexit was kept very much to the sidelines as well. Emmanuel macron managed to whip out of a hat, a visit by the foreign minister of iran. Which went down as a little bit of a diplomatic coup. Although, realistically, as you say, these kind of problems, you know, the tensions with iran, the tensions of a trade were between the us and china and solving the environmental problem that we see reaching in the amazon at the moment, these were not solved here. Amongst the g7 leaders, but they didnt exactly fall out with one another. The question remains, do you bother having them come together when there can be so Many Disparate views . And some say it is better in these times of division across the world to at least keep these leaders in the same room. Even if they cant agree on everything. You decide. Nonetheless, brexit did sneak in in places. Notably in some of the press conferences. And i wonder while we are all treading water about what happens next on brexit, there was a point, or it seemed to be, that within borisjohnsons press conference, there was a suggestion that donald trump was saying no deal is more likely than ever. Was that a general reading . I think everybody is saying no deal is more likely than ever. I mean, borisjohnson has admitted it is touch and go at the minute but if you think about it, its not very long ago, about a week ago, he was still saying there was a million to one chance of a no deal brexit. What you have here on the table, david, at the end of the day, is a compromise agreement. That was worked out by eu and uk negotiators over two years. It was signed off in november by the then uk Prime Minister and her cabinet and now theres a new Payment Services Prime Minister, who says he is having none of it and wants to get rid example, for example, altogether, or that contentious backstop guaranteed to keep the irish border open after brexit. Eu leaders still say were not gonna just get rid of the backstop. That would mean abandoning member state ireland, risking the Northern Ireland peace process. Exposing the european single market. Voluntarily, for what exactly . So they say to Boris Johnson, no, the ball isnt in our court, it is in yours. You come up with a credible workable immediately operable alternative to the backstop and we will get rid of it. The invitation is an open one. And the clock is ticking. Thank you very much indeed. For more, lets speak now to michael fuchs, senior fellow at the center for american progress. Thank you for coming in. I want to start on the issue. You run through the areas of areas they disagree. But starting with russia, President Trump wants russia back next g meeting. A lot of people say, having russia, which is a power, having them inside the room is better than having them outside the room. By the way, there were numerous people during the g7 that felt that way. And we didnt take a vote or anything, but we did discuss it. My inclination is to say yes, they should be in. He has a point, doesnt he . Having russia at the table might be more useful than having them outside of the room . This is not the first thing he has suggested this will stop a has been suggesting its repeatedly and the reasons why he is it are unclear aside from his affinity for flood your putin which goes back quite away. President putin. The original point of the g7 was not conceived of a0 plus years, it was to get the leading democratic industrialised countries together in a room who share common values to try to figure out how they can Work Together and tackle major issues. Russia being in this gripping for a period of years was an attempt to bring a transitioning democratic russia, in the 1990s, into the fold. It has been sustained because of the invasion of crimea, that is the right decision. President trump said they were kicked out of the g8 because president putin had outsmarted president 0bama, particularly on the issue of syria. As he didnt deliberately muddling issues . I think he is deliberately missing modelling reissues for a variety of reasons for soppy likes to blame president 0bama for about everything. He likes to blame. He wa nts to everything. He likes to blame. He wants to bring putin again because he has a particular relationship with them. It is a trend we have seenin with them. It is a trend we have seen in this presidency that u nfortu nately seen in this presidency that unfortunately the president of the United States doesnt like to deal with his democratic allies. He likes to deal much more with strong men, with autocrats. And that is an u nfortu nate with autocrats. And that is an unfortunate thing. But probably one of the reason he wants to bring putin back into the meeting. There has been Clear Division in the way donald trump and others see things. Particularly iran. President macron was keen to suggest they were making progress, possibly the met chance of a meeting between the president of iran and donald trump. I dont know the gentlemen. I think that i know him a little bit, just by watching over the last number of years what has happened. I will tell you one thing, hes a great negotiator. But he. I think hes gonna want to meet. I think iran wants to get the situation straightened out. So, in your view, so, in yourview, is so, in your view, is that a step forward . So, in your view, is that a step forward . We have been taking a numberof forward . We have been taking a number of steps back with iran over the last couple of years. The United States has in withdrawing from the Iran Nuclear Deal and a variety of other steps. What you have seen in the last couple of months as president from getting very concerned about what he might have unleashed with withdrawing from the nuclear deal. Heighten tensions over the summerand he is nuclear deal. Heighten tensions over the summer and he is realising now the summer and he is realising now the potential cost in the rising tensions. Couldnt result in some kind ofan tensions. Couldnt result in some kind of an unintended conflict . And so kind of an unintended conflict . And so he has been vacillating back in re ce nt so he has been vacillating back in recent months, talking about the potential for renewed diplomacy. So thatis potential for renewed diplomacy. So that is a good thing. Diplomacy is what we need right now. With iran. But the real question is, even if they were to sit down, at some point, what is the substance of what they could discuss . Right now. It seems very to understand the contours, the substance of the it sounded as if president macron felt he had got donald trump almost where he wanted him. To commit to seeing president rouhani. For those further afield, that sensitive positive step forward . Absolutely, again if were talking about diplomacy as opposed to the other things president some has been talking about with iran over recent months, is absolutely the right place to be. But let us also President Trump has also been talking about the possibility of meeting with iranian counterparts in previous months. So again, the question for me is what the substance of sub discussion would actually include. President trump likes to say a lot of things. And what changes made on a lot of things very regularly. So, again, to me, it comes down to brass tacks about what substance we are talking about. Thank you very much for coming in. If you had to sum up one thing that came out of the g7, one kind of concrete idea, i guess it would be this step closer towards some kind of summit meeting potentially between President Trump and president rouhani. To hear the president speaking about it in his fairly mere term language, that is a little new and we will have to see whether taxi happens. We know he likes having summit meeting. He has a lwa ys likes having summit meeting. He has always wanted a deal with the iranians. He liked having the meetings in north korea. Now, one of the other themes that loomed heavily over this weekends summit was the us and chinas ongoing trade war. But today President Trump struck a more positive tone, saying that trade talks would resume very shortly and that there was a will on both sides to get a deal done. I think they want to make a deal and i think they should make a deal and i think if they dont make a deal its gonna be very bad for china. And i very much appreciate the fact that they came out last night, very late last night, and they said, you know, they want to make a deal. They want it to be under calm circumstances, it was a little different kind of a statement, i thought it was a beautiful statement, i thought it indicated a lot. Lets speak now to zhaoyin feng, a correspondent from the bbcs chinese service. This has been all over the place in the last few days and Financial Markets have been in the last few days. Have the chinese come away from, they were not at the g7 summit, have they come away from watching it from the other side of the world thinking that they are closer or further away from some kind of big trade war with the United States . I think china is likely to read trumps remarks as a friendly gesture. I think both countries were caught off guard by the escalation. From beijings point of view it has practised constraint by announcing its retaliation in three weeks after trumps threat of new tariffs. But of course with so many signs of a us economy crisis, back home, President Trump cannot afford to look weak. Today, the mood music has changed a little bit. After the call between the two countries, trump has extended an olive branch to china. This will be in the interest of chinas well with its 70th anniversary approaching on the first october, china would want to cool down the trade tension a little bit. There was an interesting question thrown at donald trump during the course of his press conference. Which was essentially an accusation that mr trump kept changing what he wanted. He would say one thing, come back again, that creates uncertainty in the markets. His response is simple. That is the way i negotiate, he said. I wonder whether beijing now feels like it has sort of got the run of the trump negotiating stance. Are they still bewildered . I think anyone can be billed by trumps negotiating. In the past 24 hours of the story coming from the white house, trump has changed three or four times. So beijing is still learning. Thank you very much. It has been quite a couple of days. Let us pick up on some of the more memorable moments. Including this novel aerial shot of the roundtable meeting. Prime ministerjohnson and donald tusk sharing a joke. Looks like something out of star trek. Or a centrifugal force. Prime ministerjohnson and donald tusk sharing a joke. That handshake between President Trump and indian Prime Minister narendra modi. Captions for these pictures. And here Angela Merkel stands out as the only female leader in attendance. How many are there, david . 23 men, and one woman. The year, folks, 2019. Thank goodness Angela Merkel is still in office for the moment. He was asked about that, President Trump. Was he conscious there was only one woman leader and that she may not be there at next years g7, he said you never know what will happen. But if she goes, we have lost the head of the imf, and theresa may has gone, it could be down to none. Leaders at the g7 summit have also been discussing Climate Change or at least most of them have. Emmanuel macron chaired a session on climate and bio diversity, but donald trump was a no show. G7 leaders have announced a 22 million support fund to help protect the amazon from forest fires. The money will go toward Fire Fighting aircraft. At a summit set up to deal with Global Economics the amazon blazes forced Climate Change to the front of the agenda. In biarritz, mr trump called himself an environmentalist, but he has been out of step with other World Leaders on the severity of Climate Change and how to tackle it. Indeed, today the president chose to skip the discussions about climate. Which left mr macron to take the lead in announcing the new fund. Over in brazil, the reaction to the g7 funding has been mixed. Our correspondent will grant is in the amazon rainforest in the state of rondonia. The 22 million promised by the g7 nations to help tackle the fires here in brazil is welcomed by environmental campaigners in this country. But most would say it doesnt go anywhere nearfar enough in terms of the scale of the problem. There are still somewhere around 75,000 fires. Raging across brazil. There has been a joint operation launched here by the brazilian government. The government ofJair Bolsonaro. And this involves the military, the firefighters, and the environment ministry. Protesters say it is woefully undermanned and it is late and slow. Of course, Jair Bolsonaro himself has not welcomed the money. He continues to be in confrontation with g7 leaders, saying why do they want to help the amazon . Why have they got their eyes on the amazon. What do they want out of it . No one helps anyone except a poor person unless they want something in return. And that alone i think it shows the degree to which the two sides are at odds. For more on the situation there i spoke to one of our reporters from bbc brasil, nathalia passarinho. Shes been getting the latest from the brazilian government. Well, ijust spoke with the environment minister, ricardo salles, and he said that brazil will accept the offer of the 20 million. And it came somewhat as a surprise because president Jair Bolsonaro had just tweeted a few hours before this interview that he thought president Emmanuel Macron was acting as if. Treating brazil as a colony or a no mans land by suggesting that rich countries should save the amazon and by discussing this issue in a meeting, in the g7, without brazils participation. It has got very personal, as we know, with insults flying around, even about each others wives and things, not very nice from a macron and bolsonaro perspective. What about the fact that donald trump didnt even turn up for the climate discussions . I am presuming in some sense, mr bolsonaro will be quite pleased about that. Well, yes, president Jair Bolsonaro, as we know, has become very close to President Donald Trump in the past months. Well, the United States said it was concerned by the fires in brazil but at the same time, President Donald Trump called president bolsonaro to offer to represent brazils opinion during the g7 summit. So, yes, i do believe that president bolsonaro might think that this could seem like somewhat of support, even though it is not spoken and so clearly said, but it might be understood as support coming from donald trump. Nathalia, quickly, give us an update on what is happening in brazil with the fires. I know they have been using military aircraft. Have there been more fires, less fires . What is the status . Well, the environment minister said that there has been, there has been a bit of rain in the r

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