From his role by the 31st october. Also on the programme. The peace talks are off. President trump cancels a secret meeting with the taliban but its the invite to camp david which has lawmakers from both parties crying foul. Theres nothing left say survivors left homeless, as Hurricane Dorian leaves a trail of death and destruction in the bahamas. Hello and welcome. Im Christian Fraser in westminster, Michelle Fleury is in washington. This British Parliament has sat for more days in one session, than any other since the english civil war over 300 years ago. But borisjohnsons decisison to bring it to a close tonight, proroguing it as it is known, is not without controversy. The current brexit deadline looms just 52 days away and after parliament is suspended this evening, the house will not sit again forfive weeks. One of the last pieces of legislation to get royal assent today was the backbench bill, approved last week, which will force the prime minsiter to request another brexit extension. Ministers said today they will abide by the law, but will test it to its limit. The speaker, john bercow, who facilitated that bill and has acquired something approaching cult status for his performances in the chair announced that after 10 years in the job, he will be standing down by the time of the next election. I have concluded that the least disruptive and most democratic course of action would be for me to stand down at the close of business on thursday october the 315t. Lets bring in our chief Political Correspondent vicki young whos in the lobby of the palaces of westminster. Vicki, when i think of mr burke out, he is known for his theatrical sharding of order, order, his departure announcement obviously, no less theatrical. Moved to tears at one point talking about his family. What though is significant about this timing . I think the point about him is, as you say, he is a divisive figure, there are people who look at the changes, the metallization that he has brought to the house of commons, i dont think anyone can dispute that. Things have changed here over the last ten years, whether its about proxy votes for women who have gone on maternity leave, whether its setting up a nursery here in the house of commons. But of course, theres a flip side to that. And there are people who look at him and say he has bent the rules. Although he has tried to give mps a say, try to make sure that the government is held to account, there are some who would look in the last year and say, because of his personal views on brexit, they would say, because he was on the remaining side of the arguments, he has pushed things, and made it very difficult for the government by changing years, decades, centuries of convention. And i think hes going too far, and you can see that very clearly, the house of commons, half of the house of commons applauded, to a standing ovation, not many on the conservative side of the house, because they feel that actually hes gone far too far, and hes gone beyond being an impartial speaker. While many within the tories, as you point out, may be celebrating his departure, what was striking was seeing michael gove paying tribute to mr bercow, was that something that kind of caught you off guard . Well they are friends, we know that, their children go to the same school actually, and so both of them refer to them, sol actually, and so both of them refer to them, so i think some people will look at the changes that have happened here, the way that select committees operates, for example, the committees that hold ministers to accounts, and thats what its all about, really. Its to accounts, and thats what its allabout, really. Its about to accounts, and thats what its all about, really. Its about the government not being able tojust get away with saying whatever they want, and not being able to have to answer questions. So thats the main thing that has changed, really. And the timing, as you say, is significant. Because it means under the timing thatjohn bercow has set out, that this Current Parliament will elect the new speaker, not a new parliament after a general election, whenever that may or may not come. But tonight, very late tonight, mps will vote again on whether there should be another general election early on the 15th of october. They are very likely to reject that, which means speaker be rcow reject that, which means speaker bercow will step down on the slst of october, the day that the uk is due to leave the eu, although now of course, the law has gone through that the Prime Minister must ask for a delay to brexit. Meanwhile, vicki, the Prime Minister has been in dublin today, some fairly robust things from the irish taoiseach, the Prime Minister, live or opt out, and what we got from borisjohnson i thought was a softer tone towards negotiation, that he does want this deal, desperately. Yet, he has said before that he wa nts a yet, he has said before that he wants a deal, that that is his first choice. But he is prepared to go and leave with no deal, and thats why hes ramping up preparations for that, but the tone is definitely different, it follows the resignation of the cabinet minister, amber ride, and others within his government, saying to him, look, you have to make it clear, that you do actually want a deal. If you look at the Current Situation that he is in, you can see why actually a deal becomes may be even more attractive to borisjohnson, because as things stand, the law says that he will have to come on the 19th of october, go to the eu, and ask for a delay to brexit. Something he has said he wont do. He would die in a ditch before doing it. And if you knows if he went to the country during a general election, the problem for him is all those people who voted for brexit, that he was hoping to bring over to his side, well they might thank you have broken your promise. So he doesnt want to do that at any cost. So actually getting a deal could be the one way he gets out of this. 0k, vicki ok, vicki young in the lobby for us. Thank you very much. I think we will see lots of vicki this evening, shall we . Because theres an awful lot going on. Several boats, two emergency debates this evening, and of course that important debate on the election coming up as well. Before we get this rather arcane ceremony that surrounds the prorogation of parliament. So lets show you, can we just, the prorogation of parliament. So lets show you, can wejust, the pictures from the house of commons at the moment. We have michael gove, on his feet, this is a debate at the moment over the governments reasoning for prorogation of parliament. The former attorney general, dominic reed, who brought this emergency order, has been asking for all the e mails, the whatsapp messages, the text messages, that were sent between the pre minister and his tea m between the pre minister and his team in the days running up to the decision to prorogue parliament, and hes also after the details from that Yellow Hammered document. The government preparedness document. What do they know about what no deal would mean that for the uk, and for business and the economy in the uk. And i guess christian. I wasjust going to say, christian, that Yellow Hammer reports, which is the government because my plans to prepare for a no deal, they are looking for signs of how far in advance they were planning this, or what are they hoping to learn . Well, they had some documents from the Yellow Hammered her details back in july, but they have had nothing since. So what they are hoping is that they are going to get, be up the up to date details from the government since of course this weekly planning meeting, that michael gove has been overlooking. What sort of thing are they going to get, regarding his plans, and what it means for the uk. Joining me now is the labour mp for ilford north, wes streeting. Wes, good to have you with us. When we come to the election vote tonight, it is pretty clear, isnt it now, that you are going to vote against that . Yes, labour has been very consistent and clear about this. Of course we wa nt and clear about this. Of course we want to general election, ive lost count of the number of times that Jeremy Corbyn says he wants a general election. But we are not prepared to risk, by accident or design, britain crashing out of the European Union with no deal. Once we are confident that that is off the table, an extension to article 50 has been achieved, then we will be ready and raring to go into that general election. But quite rightly, we put the Country First before our own partisan interests, as have other opposition parties. Yes, when you look at the polls from over the weekend, whereas he will see that actually the conservatives not quite well, the labour party are making no ground at all. So although many here in the westminster bubble think it was a chaotic week last week, there isa was a chaotic week last week, there is a large part of the country who think, good, im glad hes standing up think, good, im glad hes standing up to the parliament. And im glad hes not asking for an extension. Well i think we will have to wait and see how Public Opinion plays out on borisjohnson, he has been less than clear with people about his plans for leaving the European Union. We heard from amber ride, the former member of his own cabinets, that his plan for brexit amounts to one side of it, suspending parliament for five weeks, which is in modern times, unprecedented, to send usa in modern times, unprecedented, to send us a way for a prorogation that long, because he is afraid of scrutiny, and questions. And i think whether its thinking back to the promises he made during the referendum campaign, or indeed the way he is managing his shambles of the government, i think people will look at borisjohnson the government, i think people will look at Boris Johnson as a Prime Minister, and find him wanting. Of course, that also means that the labour party has to step up, and we have to persuade those voters who are not yet convinced that labour is the party for them. That they can place their trust and faith in us to bea place their trust and faith in us to be a better kind of government, and we can look forward to making that case when the election comes, as it inevitably will, because there is no majority here. But we do actually come in practical terms, majority here. But we do actually come in practicalterms, need majority here. But we do actually come in practical terms, need a general election once no deal is off the table. There are going to be people watching this saying, you need a general election, and yet, you are not voting for one right now. Is that because you are nervous Jeremy Corbyn couldnt carry it, couldnt win an election for the labour party . Our position has been absolutely crystal clear, which is about offsetting the risk of no deal. And once we are clear that thatis no deal. And once we are clear that that is off the table, we will vote for a general election, i expect a general election in november, perhaps december, thats undesirable, because of the weather, november will be bad enough, but we are looking at a november general election, and i actually think thats an inevitable necessary desirable, and we will have to go into that election with a cleared position, notjust on brexit, but on the other issues that the country is crying out for us to address, whether its the lack of Police Office rs whether its the lack of Police Officers on the streets, the cuts that are affecting local schools, the lengthy waiting times in the nhs. There are so many other issues that frankly need the governments attention, and after nine years of government cuts, i doubt there are many people out there in the country genuinely believing that the tories are the ones who are going to invest in our public services, and at least one that no deal brexit policy threatens to deliver a no deal recession for our country. 0k, thank you very much indeed for that. Here is doctor catherine helen, senior fellow at. Explained to me how significant it is joining me is dr catherine haddon, senior fellow at the insitute for government. Giving this permit the decision over who his successor will be. It is very significant, because a new government coming and it could it be a majority government, it would give them a lot of ability to whip the votes, organise those votes, and get the speaker that they want to do next. John bercow is very aware of that, but hes probably also aware of what hes done to the role, because by taking such a sort of you know, front of centre role and being so know, front of centre role and being so bold in challenging the government, he is also putting it in danger of government, he is also putting it in dangerof being government, he is also putting it in danger of being politicized. We saw that with the threats of the government that they would try to unseat him, and actually get him out that way at the next general election. Was he, did hejump before he was pushed . Because there were reports today in the newspapers that the conservatives were going to run a candidate against him in buckinghamshire, which they dont traditionally do, do they . Know, thats right. Because the speaker is supposed to be beyond party or the parties agreeing not to run a candidate against them. The last time that did happen was nigel faraj stood against him. But yeah, i think it is possible that he was, he was certainly aware of it. Its possible it was a factor, but he said he made a promise to his family that he was going to step down, and also, he had made promises that he would only stay as speaker for a limited period of time. That had run out. I think it was last year, so he had stayed on for this period, he wanted to make sure that it was somebody experienced in the role for these sort of final parliamentary stages. There probably wont be final part of entry stages to brexit, but certainly up to the period of october 31. He made his feelings quite clear about one of the emergency debate this evening, debating the rule of law, whether Prime Ministers should uphold a bill that has been passed in the house of commons. Can you see a scenario, we just heard from vicky that the government said its going to test as far as it can, can you see any scenario where borisjohnson could get around that bell . |j scenario where borisjohnson could get around that bell . I think at the moment, what they are implying is that they wanted to go to court. You know, how they actually get that to happen, i dont know. But they are probably wanting a court case, because that allows them to explore whether or not those kind of there are limits, or if it binds them as much as they think it does, but it could also delay them having to take the extension anyway. And thatis to take the extension anyway. And that is what i think Opposition Mps will then be really worried about. Is the court case itself going to cause a problem for that, but that is where its political solution. Opposition mps, majority of parliament dont like it, they have to bring a vote of no confidence coming get rid of the Prime Minister that we. So you think there could be a scenario, sort of the 19th of october, if he comes back, and he is going to be forced to go and request that delay, where he probably would have to resign. I think that the thing is, there is two main challenges, one is on the per minister. Can he extend this . Any stomach at . Or does he resign. The other is on the opposition parties, is if other is on the opposition parties, is if he does that, with a take that move and try and oust him . Doctor catherine helen, a lwa ys oust him . Doctor catherine helen, always good to see you. She was going to come with a big coat tonight, we were talking about on social media, i might say if youre going to hang around this evening, it would be quite remiss not to come in the big quote. Ive left one that is the size of your code. Lovely to thank you. Donald trump had invited the taleban to the United States for secret peace talks, on the eve of the 9 11 commemoration. But on saturday the president tweeted that he had cancelled those talks because of another taleban attack in kabul that killed an american soldier. The us had been working towards the withdrawal of more than 5,000 us troops after 18 years of war. But his tweet, President Trump suggested the deal is dead for now. He wrote. Donald trump has faced questions from both sides. Nothwithstanding the sensitivities around the 9 11 commemoration, the telaban have not changed and critics agree they are undeserving of an invitation to camp david. Lets pick this up with retired Brigadier General and Us State Department former assistant secretary, mark kimmitt. Look, we have seen the president taking heat, and i want to read you a tweet from someone from his own party, republican congresswoman, liz cheney, from wyoming, who wrote camp david is where american leaders meant to plan or respond after alqaeda supported by the taliban killed 3000 americans on 9 11. No member of the taliban should set foot there ever. She said the president was right to cancel, but she questioned the meeting taking place in the first place. Whats your position on this . Well first of all, liz cheneys father was inside the situation room the day that 9 11, windows two towers went down. Sol 9 11, windows two towers went down. So i can understand her passion on this. I happen to agree with her. It is one thing to visit north korea, where an american soldier hasnt been killed in over 65 years. Its another thing to meet with the enemy thatis another thing to meet with the enemy that is killing american soldiers, and proud of killing american soldiers to this day. So this notion of the taliban at camp david, particularly on 9 11, i find incredible. Was this really a negotiating withdrawal, rather than a peace deal . Welll negotiating withdrawal, rather than a peace deal . Well i think thats exactly right. There would be no peace inside of afghanistan, the best we can hope for is that both sides agree to number one, a reduction in forces, and number two, i have parted promise from the taliban to prevent terroris