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BBCNEWS BBC News At Nine July 13, 2024

And in sport, humiliation for spurs in the Champions League, beaten 7 2 by bayern munic in the biggest ever home defeat of an english team in europe. Good morning and welcome to the bbc news at 9 00. The government will submit what it calls its final proposals for a new brexit deal today, with a warning there will be no further negotiations if brussels fails to engage with the offer. Borisjohnson is expected to tell the conservative Party Conference the plan is a fair and reasonable compromise that all sides can build on. While the official plan wont be published till later, the Daily Telegraph has published details of what it says are the proposals british negotiators are putting forward in place of the backstop designed to avoid a hard border on the island of ireland. The paper says the idea is to have some checks on the border between Northern Ireland and the republic of irelandand other, different, checks across the irish sea between Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It is calling this plan two borders forfour years. Lets look at what the Daily Telegraph is suggesting in more detail. The paper reports that under the proposals the uk and Northern Ireland would have a special relationship until 2025. Northern ireland would remain within much of the single market. It would leave the Customs Union with the rest of the uk. The paper says the proposals would create a regulatory border across the irish sea between Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It would create a Customs Border between Northern Ireland and the republic of ireland. After four years in 2025 the papers says the Stormont Assembly would have a role in deciding the relationship beyond that. We can now go live to the conservative Party Conference in manchester, our assistant political editor, norman smith is there. Our assistant political editor, does our assistant political editor, this sound like every versioning does this sound like every versioning of what was said between the eu, the government and the dup . This is what the British Government regards as its big compromise is that Northern Ireland would stay in the single market, abide by eu regulations. But, and this is the big ask from the British Government, would leave the Customs Union and be a separate customs territory with its own customs check. If you listen to everything the eu has been saying, when the scene there is much chance of this getting liftoff, added to which the language mr johnson has ramped it up, take it or leave it, my way or no way, doesnt sound like the sound of language that will encourage a conciliatory response from the eu. I think most people are a little bit pessimistic about the prospects of this working. Although mrjohnson takes a view that in private the negotiations have been much more constructive and more fruitful. I think he has concluded we have reached a moment of truth. His view is if we are leaving the eu, then part brexit is being able to have our own trade policy, own tariffs and customs policy, own tariffs and customs policy and therefore our own checks. Anything short of that, in his view is staying in the eu. He takes the view we have reached a moment of truth and the eu has to accept we are leaving the eu and if they want us are leaving the eu and if they want us to stay in the Customs Union that would mean overturning the result of the referendum. So for him, this is a moment of reality, this is it, this is the brexit crunch. Listening to the Party Chairman this morning, james cleverly, pretty clear that if there is going to be a deal, the eu will have to back down. Now is the time for the eu to consider seriously, the proposals we are putting forward. There will not be a delay, we are leaving on the 315t of october and what we really, really want is for the eu to recognise that movement on their part will give us the opportunity to get a deal we can get through the house of commons, get brexit done. The other component of thejohnson deal is what role for stormont . How can the politicians of Northern Ireland have some say over this precarious position that Northern Ireland would be put in because in effect, Northern Ireland would have a regulatory border with the rest of the uk and would have a Customs Border with the eu. In other words, it wouldnt have frictionless trade with anyone. Now that would have to have the consent of the people and politicians of Northern Ireland. That is another tricky area for the eu to agree to, but clearly, if mr johnson is going to get the dup to agree to that precarious predicament, hes going to have to get the eu to allow stormont to have some sort of say or veto over that package. Norman, picking up on, you have already alluded to it, the language and the rhetoric, how much is this design for the consumption of the conservative Party Conference today . How much of it in reality is borisjohnson going today . How much of it in reality is Boris Johnson going to today . How much of it in reality is borisjohnson going to follow through on or his negotiators follow through on or his negotiators follow through on or his negotiators follow through on in discussions with brussels . It is undoubtedly true, the sort of dirty harry language will go down hugely well at this Party Conference. But if you are going into a negotiation, it doesnt strike me as the measures for language if you are going to make compromises and you want to make the other side make compromises. There was an interesting interview with mr johnson in the sun where he did adopt more wriggle room in some of his comment saying he would look at any proposals in which the eu put down as a sort of counter offer. Clearly, if you re down as a sort of counter offer. Clearly, if youre going to reach a deal, there is going to have to be some give and take. Although it seems a fairly uncompromising position, if you take borisjohnson at his word, and his word is, he wa nts a at his word, and his word is, he wants a deal, if you want to deal he has got to give himself some latitude to move. I suspect the broad outlines will have to stay the same, but in terms of a lot of the detail, then mrjohnson has to be ready to compromise if he wants to getan ready to compromise if he wants to get an agreement. Norman, thank you very much. We can speak now to our brussels correspondent, adam fleming. What do you think brussels is going to make up the presentation of the so called final proposal from Boris Johnson . We are still waiting to find out how that presentation will happen. There is speculation david frost, the Prime Ministers brexit negotiator will head to brussels today and present the proposals to Michelle Barniers teen face to face after mrjohnson had sat down from his speech in manchester. That is still to be confirmed and that will kick off a whole series of meetings, whether it is with meps, eu Member States and ambassadors, getting an initial pass on it from the eus negotiators. In terms of this idea, this is the last and final offer, ta ke this is the last and final offer, take it or leave it, that has not gone down particularly well. A senior eu official close to the negotiations said, surely the historical belfast agreement on the Peace Process deserves better than a first and final offer. Of course, the actual content norman was alluding to, lots of rumours about what it will be, we saw the Irish Government reacting last night, irish ministers taking to the airwaves in ireland saying, if this plan involves customs checks between Northern Ireland all ireland, or the absence of customs checks and the absence of customs checks and the absence of customs checks and the absence of a system for managing customs otherwise, then that is not a go. If there is going to be a time limit, maybe four years on this replacement backstop, then that makes it not the insurance policy it is intended to be. It is time limited, it is meant to be there until there is a replacement, not a specific date in time. So people are pretty sceptical already. Having said that, having said that, the eu having rejected this take it or leave it approach, i can imagine Michelle Barnier saying, we disagree with most of this but lets keep talking and then it is up to Boris Johnson to decide whether he is pulling the plug or not. Adam, thank you very much for that. Im joined now by europe editor of the Daily Telegraph, peter foster. Is this a re singer or an attempt to re purpose old ideas that have already been rejected from various quarters, or is there something new in here . Well, there are no new ideas in brexit. I think there is an attempt, as it were, to finesse the fa ct attempt, as it were, to finesse the fact you are going to end up with two borders in both directions and the idea is, there might be a bit of pain both ways for unions who want to protect the internal market of the uk, but nationalist by aligning on eu rules for agriculture. It cuts across a binary restraint on the dublin side. They think any form of checks on the border is going to undermine the all ireland economy, which they consider to be the bedrock of the Peace Process. Whilst this is an old recipe with a new topping on it, i struggle to see how it can be squared with the red lines coming out of europe and dublin. Do you get a sense it is not so much throwing the ball back into the eus code, but forcibly shoving the ball back towards the eu, perhaps setting up back towards the eu, perhaps setting upa bit back towards the eu, perhaps setting up a bit of back towards the eu, perhaps setting upa bit ofa back towards the eu, perhaps setting up a bit of a blame game . Sorry, do you still have me . We can hear you, peter. The picture is back, fantastic. Is it a blame game . I think in another world when no deal was still on the table, the british side really thought they might be able to use pressure to get this deal over the line. But of course with the ban act, there is the option of an extension. How do you think this speech will go down with the Party Faithful at the conference . Will they keep faith with borisjohnson, with his way of doing things . Well, the slogan of the conference is, get brexit done. Iam not the conference is, get brexit done. I am not sure this proposal is going to get brexit done. With the benn act, all mrjohnson can do is continue to demonstrate he is determined to get brexit done and bring the uk out whole and entire from the european union. I suspect, as you say, if this deal is rejected, mrjohnsons plate will be i moved a mile, they wouldnt move an inch. I think that is probably where he has to go if this deal doesnt cross the line. 0k peter, thank you very much for your time this morning. Peter foster, europe editor at the Daily Telegraph. Away from politics. Tesco has announced that its chief executive dave lewis is stepping down after five years in the role. Mr lewis said the decision was a and tesco chairmanjohn allan said he had accepted the resignation with regret. The departure was announced as tesco reported a rise in profits. Business presenter Dominic Oconnell is here. Good morning. Is this a genuine surprise, do you think . It is, many people thought dave lewis might stay ona people thought dave lewis might stay on a bit longer to enjoy the fruits of the turnaround he engineered. But timing is everything in business and i think dave lewis realised it wasnt going to get much better than the set of results. He joined the company when it was in disarray and there had been a string of profit warnings and there was an accounting scandal. Tesco was in ms and he has done a lot. He sacked quite a few thousand staff, change the Senior Management and move to head office and the results have been overshadowed by the news of his departure. Like for like sales, tough comparison with last year because last year was a good one for tesco. At the operating margin, which is what a lot of people look at was back up to 4 . A level it has not been at since the glory days. The grocery market is super competitive. Aldi and lidl are snapping up tescos heels, sainsburys is cutting costs very hard. It is not going to get that much easier in the future so his timing is probably impeccable. 0k, as we were mentioning, some critics saying the job is far from as we were mentioning, some critics saying thejob is farfrom done but i guess in the current economic climate, it is how long is a piece of string, how can anybody step away from a role like this and say i am content with all i can do . It is a job that will never be done. It is getting more competitive, the grocery market is tough. Aldi and lidl pushing hard at the more established players. And also you have amazon, who is always threatening to push into the market but hasnt made many inroads. But amazon is waiting in the wings. Dave lewis has proper thought, i have done pretty well, it is not going to get much easierfrom here, good time to go. Dominic, thank you very much. The headlines on bbc news. Borisjohnsons take it or leave it message to europe as he prepares to set out his final offer on brexit. The duke and duchess of sussex take the mail on sunday to court for publishing one of the duchess private letters to her father the boss of tesco quits after five years in the job he says the turnaround he led is now complete, but critics say theres still work to do. In sport, humiliation for spurs in the Champions League last night. They were hammered 7 2 at the biggest european home defeat by any english side ever. Raheem sterling inspired Manchester City to a 2 0 win against dynamo greer. And andy murray beats Cameron Norrie over a gruelling three sets to reach the quarterfinals of the china open in beijing. I will be back with more on those stories in about 20 minutes. See you then. More now on the news that the government will submit what it calls its final proposals for a new brexit deal today, with a warning there will be no further negotiations if brussels fails to engage with the offer. Borisjohnson is expected to tell the conservative Party Conference the plan is a fair and reasonable compromise that all sides can build on. Mrjohnson is expected to give some details in his keynote speech to the conference later this morning. But, aside from europe, the speech will be a chance for the Prime Minister to reset, after a turbulent few weeks. Someone who knows a bit about speech writing is chris wilkins, former head of strategy and speech writer for theresa may. He writer for theresa may. Joins us from the conferenn manchester. He joins us from the conference in manchester. Good to have you with us. What Boris Johnson manchester. Good to have you with us. What borisjohnson is saying, it gives quite a lot of wiggle room. It is the final offer if the eu fails to engage. But of course the eu is going to engage at some level with what the government is suggesting, isnt it . Yes, it does allow some wriggle room. The key for number ten today really is get to the day with the eu not having completely rejected the offer that is made in the Prime Ministers speech later this morning. The question is, is it the basis for having a conversation really . If they get to the day and there are indications it is at least worth sitting down and talking, i think they will be happy with that. There has been a mismatch in the messaging overnight, some of the language in the newspapers this morning about, this is ourfinal offer, no further. There has been some rolling back from that by some sources at number ten because i dont think it landed quite how they wa nted dont think it landed quite how they wanted it to be. Is it the basis for a discussion . The final day will not look like the thing that is being talked about today but can we talk about it . If they can get that through, they will be happy. About it . If they can get that through, they will be happym about it . If they can get that through, they will be happy. If one wa nts to through, they will be happy. If one wants to sound tough, but at the same time not completely offend or put of the other side, you have to strike a fine balance. What is your assessment in a bit more detail of the language that weve heard been revealed that borisjohnson, we are told, is going to use . Yes, this is a lwa ys told, is going to use . Yes, this is always a tricky thing with these Conference Speeches. Ive been to a couple of them now. As a speech writer you spend a lot of time thinking about the language in some detail and there is nuance and things like that, phrasing you use. And then you hand it over to somebody else in the team and they talk to the media. Sometimes things come across rather harder in the media than you had intended them. I have certainly been through that circumstance. I think of the first Conference Speech that theresa may gave as Prime Minister, which i worked on with her, there were cert

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