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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Afternoon Live 20240713

August. One of britains two most notorious paedophiles has been stabbed to death in prison. We have all the spot. Another big night of football. Gareth southgate is going to be looking for a big response from his england players. They were awful against the Czech Republic last friday. They can qualify for next summers euros. Looking at the weather. It is looking difficult here. We have some very wet weather this afternoon across england and wales. Particularly concerned with the south east of england and Eastern England as we had to the sea bed where we could see some torrential downpours as thunderstorms come packing in. If you are taking to the roads expect some problems. We could see some public transport disruption. Coming up, the offerand public transport disruption. Coming up, the offer and is believed to be british missing after an iis camp was overrun. They are and safe with aid workers in syria. This is afternoon light. I am simon mccoy. The queen in the last two hours has unveiled her plans for the yearfor hours has unveiled her plans for the year for boris hours has unveiled her plans for the yearfor borisjohnsons hours has unveiled her plans for the year for Boris Johnsons government. She said the governments priority was to take the United Kingdom out of the eu. It also introduced plans for tougher sentences for foreign defenders, invest more in the nhs and scrap the rail franchise system. More than 20 bills were outlined and with the Prime Minister no longer having a majority and an election might be predicted, does any of it matter . Or is it a political stunt and an uncosted pre election wish list. Jonathan blake reports. Tradition has its place, even at a time of turmoil. The queens arrival, part of the spectacle of the state opening of parliament. Ancient rituals and splendour on show, but this was westminster preparing for a queens speech like no other. Mps, summoned to the house of lords to hear plans put forward by a government with no majority to deliver them. The Prime Minister said this queens speech is full of ambition and optimism. Labour has dismissed it as a farce. There were details of 22 bills in total. Brexit, first and foremost. My governments priority has always been to secure the United Kingdoms departure from the European Union on the 31st of october. My government intends to work towards a new partnership with the European Union, based on free trade and friendly cooperation. Beyond brexit, plans for new immigration laws, Infrastructure Projects and the National Health service. New laws will be taken forward to help implement the National Health Services Long term plan in england. Law and order was also a focus, with promises of tougher sentences for some. My government is committed to addressing Violent Crime and to strengthening Public Confidence in the criminal justice system. New sentencing laws will see that the most serious offenders spend longer in custody, to reflect better the severity of their crimes. Transport, infrastructure, the environment also featured. But opposition parties were scathing about the speechs substance and its timing. Everybody knows this is a sham queens speech, this is the governments queens speech, it is supposed to be the legislative programme, and yet we all know that what the government wants is an election tomorrow and a new government, in which they hope they will be the head. We have this charade of a queens speech which is a long list of promises that the Prime Minister cant possibly deliver, because the path he is set to go down is one which will make us so much poorer as a country. If this speech had not been read out by her majesty the queen, you might as well have just said it is a Party Political broadcast for the conservative party. It is a list of things they think will make them win votes in england, very much a domestic policy agenda. Looking at the splendour of the state occasion and hearing the political promises made, it would be easy to think these are normal times at westminster. In reality, they are anything but. The government doesnt have the numbers to push through its plans. There could be a general election in weeks and uncertainty over brexit continues. Away from westminster, but hanging over todays events, the brexit negotiations in brussels on a knife edge. For all the ambitious plans set out here, the outcome there will determine the future for this government. Jonathan blake, bbc news, westminster. H arad . Not you, the speech from the queen. A queens speech is always political. The idea that it is not is nonsense. It is a programme that the government wants to bring in. I think downing street would say they have got all these ideas, they had got all these policies they want to implement but the problem is they dont have a majority. At the moment borisjohnson is 23 mps short of a majority so of course it would be incredibly difficult for him to implement any of this. The question is, how do you get over that . You have an election and try and change the mass. But at the moment, although that is what borisjohnson once, the opposition is not allowing him to have an election, they dont wa nt to him to have an election, they dont want to bring him down with a vote of no confidence because they say they dont trust him and they want to make sure they get that delay to brexit, delaying it beyond the 31st of october. They want to get that in place first before they allow a general election to take place. And awful of uncertainty with all of that. Lets discuss it. I am joined by the former health minister. Looking very, smart indeed. We have to maintain standards. Just explain to maintain standards. Just explain to me, you are one of those who has been booted out of the parliamentary conservative party. Thank you. How do you feel about what might happen towards the end of this week . Are you still confident there might be a deal . Im very confident might be a deal. There is no certainty parliament will sit on saturday. That has not been confirmed. But i am confident there will be a deal. They. If he was going to move the eu were going to listen. They were going to get near to this infamous tunnel unless the rocker had moved. He has clearly moved closer to the Prime Minister and the Prime Minister has moved closer to him. Therefore i am confident there will be something emerging here. Do i know what the detail of that is . No. To go through the line by line of bills and treaties. That is what i hope we are going to get to do that later this week and do on saturday and that we will make our mind up as to whether this is worth supporting. If you dont want no deal, you have got to be pro deal. You have to be pro something. I am pro deal. Always have been. There are others not like you, in the labour party, who are against no deal but they are saying they want another referendum. Is that something you would be tempted by . have said all the way along that if parliament reaches the end of the road there is no where else to turn then all options remain on the Table Including a second vote. A second referendum and a complementary referendum and a complementary referendum are two different things. It could be deal or no deal. So the Opposition Mps will do what Opposition Mps will do what Opposition Mps will do what Opposition Mps do. Yes, there will be some who will vote for the government and put the National Interest first but i would not expect that of the front bench of the labour party. There are some in the labour party. There are some in the liberal democrats who voted for the liberal democrats who voted for the deal who did last time so they are split as well. Truth is, all parties are split on this. All mps need to do what is in the National Interest, the interest of their constituents. I dont believe leaving with no agreement at all is in the National Interest. Never did. It is myi in the National Interest. Never did. It is my i resigned from the Government Back in march. It is why i voted the way i did on the 3rd of september. The Prime Minister deserves great credit for doing what he told me he would do, which is break he told me he would do, which is brea k every he told me he would do, which is break every thing he had got and strain every sinew to get a deal. I think he is doing that and he deserves the space to land this. What has been refreshing is that most of all everybody has put a sock in it talking about the detail for the last few days. It has been wonderful. Lets give the guy a chance to land a deal. wonderful. Lets give the guy a chance to land a deal. I am not going to tell you to put a sock in it simon but that is the advice coming from some here at least. The key, thank you very much. The queens speech came as a negotiating tea m queens speech came as a negotiating team to be meeting in brussels to try and secure a deal ahead of the key summit on thursday. The eus chief negotiator told ambassadors that the major differences remain on theissue that the major differences remain on the issue of customs in Northern Ireland. Are we heading towards a brexit deal this week . The uk negotiating to live in brussels today for more talks. Both sites use the word constructive and say there isa the word constructive and say there is a lot more to do. Especially on customs checks in Northern Ireland. And yes, there are still plenty there is still plenty of sitting around. Arriving for a meeting this morning european foreign minister sounded almost optimistic. A deal as possible and it is possible this month. It may be possible this week. But we not there yet. As Michel Barnier said yesterday, there is still a lot of work to do. I hope that we can make more progress today. I think yes. The body language in luxembourg said it all. We will find a solution on brexit. The timeline for achieving a brexit deal this week is incredibly tight. Some might say impossibly tight. But here is how we could unfold. The eu chief negotiator Michel Barnier would have to give a positive assessment to European Affairs ministers set at a meeting tomorrow. Eu ambassadors would have to give their agreement in principle before eu leaders officially sign it off at a two day summit beginning on thursday. Then mps would have their say on saturday during a rare weekend setting at westminster. It is not impossible but the people negotiating in these rooms have to bridge a lot of legal, technical and political gaps for a deal to become possible this week. More likely is that everyone could need more time and the process will drag on. Adam fleming, and bbc news, luxembourg. Lets get our reporter in brussels. The mood music, if you like, still appears fairly positive . Yes, it does. The Public Statement from donald tusk president of the European Council is that there is a slightest chance and while there is a slightest chance it is worth pursuing. One thing that strikes me is how seemingly eu red lines on a deadline seem to disappear like putty suddenly when it makes it all the more confusing to say actually how long have they got . How. When do they stop . There was a sense that physically they cannot do it if they are still talking by the end of tuesday because all of these documents seem to be translated if there is a deal in brief draft form into 25 different languages, circulated across the eu. The land which has to be understood by the leaders and suddenly we are hearing it is done when it is done, it is ready when it is. It may be the second red line which is that leaders say they dont want to be negotiating Technical Details about a Customs Union and how you solve that issue preventing a border between the northern forget of ireland at the summit itself. The 28 leaders coming to a room and they still have to tie that up. But we dont know. How long have we said any negotiations with the eu tend to go to the last moment of the last day or i have asked the same question to a team around donald tusk, around Michel Barnier. Some senior eu officials as well. Will there be an emergency summit if there be an emergency summit if there isnt an agreement in the next couple of days . They cant rule that out. The one big obstacle is clearly that this is a tone, a narrative set by borisjohnson. That this is a tone, a narrative set by Boris Johnson. He that this is a tone, a narrative set by borisjohnson. He would rather die ina by borisjohnson. He would rather die in a ditch then have an extension after the 31st of october. They are a way that next saturday if there is no agreement then a letter has to go to the eu asking for an extension. That is what keeps us with a momentum of getting something by the end of this week. But we both know that when anyone says, when is a deadline, who knows . It is always good to end an interview with, who knows . We have been doing that for yea rs knows . We have been doing that for years talking about brexit. Thank you very much. Lets talk to. The timing, even in the best Case Scenario that there is a deal, that it is nearly fair, there are issues like translation, simple things had been a delay may be inevitable. Absolutely. Political will is obviously essential if we are going to get a deal but then it is how you translate that political will into practical and legal reality. Certainly some of the things you have been hearing over the weekend was Michel Barnier saying, lets give uk negotiators a last chance and proceed with these discussions. But at best we can hope for an agreement in principle and will still need to translate that to make it legal text. Whether that can be finalised for thursday remains to be seen. Finalised for thursday remains to be seen. Hopes or hurdles, there are plenty of those things in the way. Saturday, here and this place, will be crucial on the basis that they are still talking. That is because there are several steps to reaching a deal. It not onlyjust about uk negotiators finding an agreement. Union need the European Parliament and the Uk Parliament over here to give its consent. To avoid eight no deal, it is not only about passing that deal reached in brussels, it is also the withdrawal bill. Itsjust talk. Today, the state opening of parliament. I have to say there was a centre if it had been the queen reading it out we would have possibly ignored it. I am not one to. The point being is that the majority that he doesnt have, this is all pure conjecture. It is certainly what the eu are thinking about as well because, regardless of whether we reach a deal, if we are looking at the extension it is not only about agreeing an extension, that short delay, and we know that parliament passed a bill to compel government to seek an extension, it is also about making sure that those terms and conditions around the extension are going to be accepted here in the uk. There are a lot of questions, not only about the deal, whether the government and Prime Minister has a majority he needs to pass a deal, if it doesnt get a deal is he going to get a support . There is a huge difference between an extension per se and in an extension in a week or two to finish the documentation. You sense that would be much more acceptable to all those involved . The government. It is easierfor the those involved . The government. It is easier for the government to allow a short technical extension. Ifa allow a short technical extension. If a deal isnt reached we are looking at a longer extension. We have to look at what the eu would be looking for as well. Do they want an extension of a couple of months, but then that runs the risk that if we do reach that deadline and we still dont have a deal because we have had a general election and we need more time, do we then face another delay . That is. What is a cost of a delay . We keep hearing Boris Johnson say there will be millions we pay every month every month of extension. What are the facts of that . As you continue to be a member state you pay in but that money would be taken out. For example, if we entered a transition weve still would have been paying. It isjust that money we would have been paying for the transition. It is not more money, it is. We would still be pa rt money, it is. We would still be part of the Single Market, customs unitand part of the Single Market, customs unit and other projects. We would have to contribute as a member state. Translators arent cheap. Great to talk to you. 20 more to come from westminster throughout the afternoon. We are expecting the debate on the queen speech to get under way in the next ten minutes. You are watching afternoon life. The government set our crime, and brexit in the queen speech which opposition parties have dismissed as an election manifesto. Hundreds of collea g u es election manifesto. Hundreds of colleagues and friends and family have attended the funeral of pc harper who was killed on duty in august. One of britains must notorious paedophiles has been stabbed to death in prison. Gareth southgate has told his england side they have to deliver against bulgaria after their shock defeat of the Czech Republic last week. They can qua

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