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BBCNEWS BBC News July 13, 2024

Borisjohnsons brexit deal unless changes are made. We will not give support to the government may believe they are fundamentally wrong and acting a nyway fundamentally wrong and acting anyway that is detrimental to Northern Ireland and taking us on the wrong direction. And the older People Living with eating disorders, more on this and other stories with Victoria Derbyshire in half an hour. Police say theyve now recovered all 39 bodies discovered in a refrigerated truck in essex. They say they cannot confirm the identity of the victims, or speculate about their nationalities, although it appears several of them may be vietnamese. The vietnamese Prime Minister has ordered government officials to help establish the identities of the victims and to look into cases of vietnamese citizens sent abroad illegally. In the past few minutes, police in ireland say a fifth man has been arrested as part of the investigation. Dci Martin Pasmore from essex police says that identifying the victims is their primary concern. What i have done this morning, is i have met with the vietnamese ambassador, we are building a really good and rapid rapport. Again, we have agreed and i have made it perfectly clear to the ambassador that at every stage will be treating, you know, these individuals, victims with dignity and respect. The ambassador visited the city centre in grays and has paid tribute there. But underlining all that, of course, we do not know exactly the nationality of those individuals. At the moment, im going to focus and engage as much as i possibly can within the Vietnamese Community. When we look at those that are abroad, we know we may be able to use fingerprints and that may speed up the process and i hope it will. But when we look at those at home, that becomes a part of a more complex scenario, because it may well be that there are people watching this tonight that are thinking i am here in the uk and im here illegally. And i want to come forward, i want to obviously try and identify my loved ones and be reunited, but they are frightened to come forward. I have met this morning and i aware, i think we are all aware that there are some websites that people are communicating with them abroad, they are focusing in on from the Vietnamese Community. These are websites they may use in the come to the uk normally. I have met with a facilitator of one of those websites, again for him to be able to meet me, hopefully to get some trust in me and put out to the community to take that leap of faith and please make contact with my team through our portal. Because if you come into us, we will do everything we can to put our arms around you, take you through this process, identify as quickly as possible, to see whether a not we do indeed have one of your loved ones involved in this tragic incident and try and reunite you. The next thing, of course, be repatriations. We are going to have to take this one step at a time, there are lots of issues that sit around these things, diplomatic issues. But we are all talking and this is the thing, this is the message. We are communicating, we are talking and we all want one common thing. As i said before, that is to identify our victims, and reunite them with their families as quick as we possibly can. Our correspondent lisa hampele is in grays. Lisa, much more to be no about the task of identifying the victims . Well, we have just task of identifying the victims . Well, we havejust been hearing task of identifying the victims . Well, we have just been hearing from dci martin plasma as you say. He has been saying that his one purpose is to identify these 39 people who died on the back of the lorry. He says that although he cannot say what the nationalities where and i asked him has he actually identified any of the victims, he said as yet no, he has not. But he has said that they have heard a lot in the Vietnamese Community and that did the limits ambassador has been and seen him this morning, in fact, ambassador has been and seen him this morning, infact, he ambassador has been and seen him this morning, in fact, he signed the back of condolences and that he has been very dignified and there being as careful as they can. But they know that lots of people have come forward , know that lots of people have come forward, being desperate to find out about their relatives. People from vietnam and they have posted photographs and bbc has been approached and told by at least six families that they fear that people that their loved ones were among the dead. And so, he says he is asking for the Vietnamese Community to come directly to the police. He wants them to have no fear, he says that if there any in the uk, in britain who are worried about their relatives or have any information, they should come further directly to they should come further directly to the police. They have set up a website, which they will be putting out soon, which they say can they come to that website, connect on them . They say that they will give them . They say that they will give them amnesty, they said that essex police will not prosecute anybody who is coming forward with information who is an illegal immigrant here. He also said that he does not think that they will necessarily be from vietnam, he does not know all the identities. He has been talking to the Chinese Ambassador and the vietnamese ambassador. We have had a couple of other lines of information this afternoon. We have also confirmed that all the bodies have been taken from the lowly intel break, only very close to here at grace police station, and they now have gone to Broomfield Hospital in chelmsford to undergo postmortem examinations. We have also been told that the guard i has arrested a fifth person, another man in his 20s was arrested. He was arrested after taking a ferry from france to dublin and invite, he is wont be appearing in court at half past four, in less than half an hour this afternoon. It is not in relation to charges that are directly involved with this, but essex police are very interested in this person and it is in relation to their enquiry and they want to know more. He is appearing as liz30pm. Lisa, thanks for that. Lets speak to Michael Brosowski who joins me via webcam from hanoi in vietnam. He is the ceo and founder of the blue dragon childrens foundation, which deals with Human Trafficking victims in vietnam. We are very grateful that you are joining a clear and bbc news, thank you. Ido joining a clear and bbc news, thank you. I do think it is worth you helping us make the distinction, if you do not mine, between people smuggling and people trafficking. Sure, in this case i think the distinction really comes to the poon distinction really comes to the poor. However, the issues themselves are blurred. People smuggling is when somebody willingly goes, illegally, cross a border and has paid somebody to take now. Whereas, trafficking is when somebody is being taken against their will or without their knowledge. Now, often trafficking occurs after people have been smuggled. That is been the case and a lot of the incidents in the uk until now, where people have been smuggled initially and once they arrive in the uk, they find themselves held against their will and soi themselves held against their will and so i technically now trafficked. I know that you have experience of smuggling and trafficking, can you give us a sense of how widespread the problem is . Yes, basically they give show that trafficking is a major issue here in vietnam and in the region. We are seeing that the numbers of people being smuggled into and trafficked into the uk are a device and even though it is a major issue for europe to deal with, 18 of the image people who are chop it into china, so finding and repatriating trafficked people is a major task for both the Charity Sector and certainly for the police and government of vietnam. That is interesting that is a china is the primary destination. So, what are your thoughts about, i mean, primary destination. So, what are yourthoughts about, i mean, i appreciate we do not know any further details about this particular incident, but in terms of people coming to the uk, how widespread is that . Well, the data on this is notoriously unreliable. But there are figures around, there are estimates that hundreds of people are travelling each month out of vietnam and into europe and into the uk. Essentially, we have to say that nobody knows the real number. I think that this insert puts a spotlight on how broad and widespread this practice is. And hopefully must bury more action internationally for us to get on top of the issue. It is interesting, isnt it, at the vietnamese Prime Minister has ordered the police to launch an investigation into Human Trafficking. Can you give us a sense of, sorry to interrupt, but i wanted to ask you, can you give us a sense of what might drive people to do this . Well, it is a combination of factors and when we are trying to understand why this happened, we have to make sure that we do not look at just have to make sure that we do not look atjust one cause or one reason. It is normally a whole bunch of factors intertwining. Poverty is certainly part of it, that makes people vulnerable to being offered opportunities that they think might change their life, that they hope will create Something Better for their future. But of course there are their future. But of course there a re lots of their future. But of course there are lots of purple for our not trafficked. So, it is not only poverty, it is also the history of the region, for example, a lot of the region, for example, a lot of the people ending up in the uk are from areas where there has long been traffic from those provinces, to europe and the uk. So, it is a well known path and it is easy therefore for people who are interested in these opportunities to find somebody who can take them there. So, there may be a personal network, there may be opportunities to borrow money that people can use to then pay the smugglers. So, these factors combined both push and pull factors, leading people to take a risk and think well, maybe this will change my life at the better. And meanwhile, there are people ready and willing to capitalise on that vulnerability. Michael, we must leave it there, but so good to talk to, thank you. Englands rugby team have produced one of their greatest ever performances to beat defending champions new zealand and reach the Rugby World Cup final injapan. The all blacks were clear favourites before the game, but england dominated, taking the lead in the second minute, and eventually winning by 19 points to seven. Theyll face either wales or south africa who play tomorrow in the final. Our sports editor, dan roan, was there. Not since 2003, when the world cup was won, has english rugby enjoyed a moment as enjoyable, as significant, as the one we have just witnessed here in the yokohama stadium. They came into this match very much as underdogs, they ended it as top dogs. Four years ago, england were humiliated on home soil in their own world cup, crashing out at the group stage. In the wake of that failure, the rfu invested heavily, bringing in australian coach eddiejones, they tasked him with putting the pride back into english rugby, and reaching the semifinals of this tournament. Well, here this evening, he just went one better, and in doing so, his team have dethroned the superpowers of world rugby, the all blacks. It ends a run of six defeats against them, the last time england beat the all blacks was in 2012. They will have to wait until tomorrow, england, to discover who they will play in next weeks final, either wales or south africa. But after a performance and a win that will never be forgotten, they now know they will go into the final as firm favourites. As you would expect, england fans leaving the match were delighted with the teams performance. We caught up with a few of them. The way those boys played today out there for us was absolutely incredible. It was relentless from start to finish. Bearing in mind that was the all blacks they were playing against, is that as good as you have ever seen them play . Yeah, i would say the defence was amazing. Absolutely amazing. Theyjust didnt give an inch. And it was superb, fantastic. If you pick the one to 15 now, every single one of them who wears the white shirt was unbelievable. How would you sum up that performance . Breathtaking. Amazing. If we play like that again in the final, you dont want to count your chickens obviously. But fingers crossed, that it all goes well. If we repeat that performance, then who knows . Relentless was the word. Right from start to finish, absolutely fantastic. A brilliant performance from the boys. You can see them winning the world cup now . Who knows . I dont like to count chickens. Never count your chickens. If they play like that again, they win it. It is as simple as that. The atmosphere was amazing. We had a whole lot of all blacks supporters next to us at one side, and we totally drowned them out. It was just superb right from the beginning. A really positive atmosphere, as well. How good were england . Really good. Incredible. Really, really good. Her First International rugby match. A good start, yeah the team has been praised for their heroic display on social media. The Prime Minister borisjohnson said immense effort by englandrugby many congratulations to the whole team. Now for the final. Former england player will carling said, was always going to take something very special to beat as side with the ability and history of nz. And that was very special. Dont believe there can be any complaints about that outcome. So many outstanding performances. And johnny wilkinson, the player who scored the winning points in england last world cup triumph 16 years ago he said immense individually and together asa team. Immense on to next weeks final. Cant wait . My colleague geeta guru murthy spoke to the former England Rugby reaction to the result. I think it was a tremendous victory, but the best thing about it was they absolutely deserved it. No element of luck, in fact, they had a couple of decisions go their way, it could have been a bigger victory. They made a very good new zealand side look tentative. And did new zealand underperform . I dont think they were allowed to perform as they normally are. When they play the ball in hand usually, they look to escape in the best defence. But england time and time again shut them down, second and third tackles. I think new zealand made a bad mistake in their selection putting barrett in the back row, that gave england an advantage. I6 turnovers, that was the basis of the game. So england into the final, how much of that credit goes to eddie jones . A huge amount of credit goes to him. He had the foresight to pick the forward farrell. A lot of people, including me, didnt think that was the right thing. But he picked the two number seven is in the back row. And he was confident enough to bring all of his bench on against the double world champions. And defend what was a slender lead. At the end of the day, he has been proved absolutely right. This is the point, if they dont win the final, all of this is for nothing. And in terms of their preparation, their fitness, how much of that has played a part in getting them to the final four next week . I remember eddiejones saying to me when he first came here that these players are not fit enough. I remember thinking, are you sure about that . He is absolutely right. The intensity at this level, and certainly in the final, is far and above anything that people playing domestically. He was absolutely right to have the sessions he has had. Even though people complained along the way. A man wanted by essex police in connection with the investigation into the deaths of 39 people found in a lorry is arrested in dublin. England are into the final of the Rugby World Cup after beating defending champions new zealand 19 7 in yokohama. And the dup leader Arlene Foster vows to keep opposing borisjohnsons brexit deal unless changes are made. In sport, england through to the world cup final, but who they face next . It could be wales, they play south Africa Tomorrow morning. Hoping to which their world cup final. Manchester city close the gap on premier League Leaders liverpool to three points, but they come to a 30 to three points, but they come to a 3 0 win against aston villa. Elsewhere, west ham and beating sheffield united. Great britains return to International Rugby does not go well, beating 14 6 in their first test for 12 years. That is the sport fee, we will have more in an hours time. The leader of the Democratic Unionist Party Arlene Foster has underlined her partys opposition to Boris Johnsons proposed brexit deal. In her speech to the dup conference this afternoon, mrs foster accused the Prime Minister of breaking commitments he gave at the event last year. She warned that her party would not lend its crucial ten votes tx we will not give support to the government when theyre acting in a way that we believe is fundamentally wrong and acting to the detriment of Northern Ireland. We will oppose them and use our votes to defeat them. Let me say clearly from this platform today that we want to support a deal, a deal that works legal the United Kingdom and which is not leave Northern Ireland behind. But without change, we will not vote for the payments tos agreement. It would be bad for Northern Ireland economically and will begin the foundations of this great United Kingdom. The brexit secretary says there will not be Northern Ireland to Great Britain paperwork, then he says theyre well. The

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