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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Beyond 100 Days 20240713

Election on the 12th of december so channels to presume there are meetings and have a sensible that we can finally get brexit done. Timetable for the bill that we have before us so that this house can there is no support from the benches resume discussion of these serious opposite for this to proceed. But matters and come to a resolution on the house cannot any longer keep the deal which, personally, this country hostage. Millions of matters and come to a resolution on the dealwhich, personally, i repeat, i will vote for, and if it families and businesses cannot plan for the future, and i dont believe reaches the reading, as i think it will, and it could well be that we could get back to the orderly government which i think the general that this paralysis and stagnation should be allowed to continue. Now public are dearly wishing we would rapidly do. I have noted what he has that no deal is off the table, we said and rapidly do. I have noted what he has said and i am open to any such have a great new deal. We have a discussions, but it does require great new deal. It is time for the willing participants. And it remains to be seen with the passage of time whether that be so. But i think voters to have a chance to pronounce on that deal and to replace this everyone will be attentive on this occasion, as of every other, to what the father of the house has had to Dysfunctional Parliament with a new one that can get brexit done so that say to us and take benefit from his the country can move on. You are 00 02 05,688 4294966103 13 29,430 watching a bbc 49 years of experience. MrJeremy Corbyn. Thank you, mr speaker, i apologise to you and the Prime Minister for apologise to you and the Prime Ministerfor not being apologise to you and the Prime Minister for not being present at the point of order, i was detained outside of the chamber. I am back here. I understand a bill that will be tabled tomorrow. We will always look and scrutinise that bill, and we look forward to a clear, definitive decision that no deal is absolutely off of the table and that there is no danger of this Prime Minister not sticking to his word because he has some form on these matters, and is taking this country out of the eu without any deal whatsoever, knowing the damage it will do twojobs whatsoever, knowing the damage it will do two jobs and industries all across this country. That point stands in its own right. Point of order on a completely unrelated matter, Esther Stephen doughty. Thank you, as you know i believe in correcting things when i get things wrong and i want to apologise to the honourable member for east yorkshire. I understand he has been readopted by his association, and i wa nt to readopted by his association, and i want to apologise for mistaking his seat for another, i truly apologise to him. Typically gracious of the honourable gentleman. And i have a sense that it will be accepted. Let us sense that it will be accepted. Let us heara sense that it will be accepted. Let us hear a response. You are watching beyond 100 days. The prime minusters third attempt to call a general election has just failed. He told mps the government will now give notice of a short bill for a general election on december 12. Our chief Political Correspondent vicki young is in the central lobby of the houses of parliament for us. No surprise, one suspects, that the government would lose the emotion that they have put forward today. What about movements now on this bill, a 19 bill that they have put forward , bill, a 19 bill that they have put forward, or at least they will do so before the house tomorrow . Yes, complicated stuff, but there is more than one way to get to a general election, tonight they have tried through the fixed term parliaments act and you need two thirds of mps to back it. Even though it looks that the government has won on those numbers, 299 to 70, it does not make the threshold required. Another way to get to the election is to introduce a bill which says, forget about the fixed term parliaments act, we will have an election on a certain date and that is put in the bill, and what borisjohnson is going to do is to lay it down tonight and it can be discussed and voted on tomorrow, and he is again going for the date of the 12th of december. Now, this was an idea thought about by the lib dems and the snp. They have discussed this, they have said that they would bring forward a bill but with the date of the 9th of december in it. And the big question now, because it would only require a single majority to get it through, is whether the lib dems and the snp would go for it, because it does not matter what the labour party would do, there would be enough people if you could get the tories plus the snp and lib dems to get that through. Let us speak to Stephen Gethins of the snp to give us Stephen Gethins of the snp to give usa Stephen Gethins of the snp to give us a reaction. You have spoken a lot about wanting another general election. Borisjohnson has said will bring it before the house tomorrow, this is the opportunity you have been waiting for. Let us have a look at the bill. We want a general election and we want to see the back of the tories, but fundamentally we want to stop exit and we want the opportunity to remain within the eu. Let us have a look at that bill. I do not want to sign off on anything that safeguards borisjohnson sign off on anything that safeguards Boris Johnson dodgy brexit. I want to stop exit. So you do not want him to have time to bring or carry on the passage of the bill, the Withdrawal Agreement bill, which got its second reading, went past the first age, you are worried that he might try to rush that through parliament in between now and that general election, or the dissolving of parliament . Yes, we dont trust him. That Withdrawal Agreement only got its second reading because members of the labour party voted for it. We know that that agreement makes people poorer, it hits our Public Services and takes away opportunities from young people. Dont just and takes away opportunities from young people. Dontjust take my word for it, that is what the uk governments loan analysis found. We dont want that, we want people to be givena dont want that, we want people to be given a proper choice. So you would want some kind of commitment from the government that they will not try to get their daily through . Yes, we want something that can stop brexit, we do not think that is giving people a choice. We want to see that it nailed down. We want to see that it nailed down. We want to see this bill, i dont trust this Prime Minister, he is the most untrustworthy person to hold the office of Prime Minister in our lifetimes. Please forgive me but you will not be surprised that we want to read the fine print of this bill when it comes out. Isnt the truth that your party is split on this . One of your colleagues said he did not want to have an election and he will not vote for it because he thinks that borisjohnson will return here with a big majority and the smp will have been partly responsible for getting him into that position . I think you have spoken to one member out of 35 and i respectfully disagree. I have spent three years, more than three years, voting for that second referendum, trying to find every which way to remain, take no deal off the table, revoke article 50, have that as our default position. The smp could not have done more to help us remain in the eu. Smp. We have done more to help us remain in the eu. Smp. We crash out on the latest on the 31st ofjanuary and we do not have the numbers at the moment for that peoples vote that we keep on voting for and the liberal party keep on voting against. So, this is our opportunity to see the back of the 40s. The snp is pretty confident that we can wipe out the tories in scotland and we will heavily campaign against them and a disastrous and dodgy brexit that will cost far too manyjobs in scotland and elsewhere. I want to see the back of the tories, i do not trust borisjohnson see the back of the tories, i do not trust Boris Johnson remaining see the back of the tories, i do not trust borisjohnson remaining in power as Prime Minister. Trust borisjohnson remaining in poweras Prime Minister. It trust borisjohnson remaining in power as Prime Minister. It gets too many opportunities to crash us out with no deal without a say. Thank you very much indeed. That is the view from the snp who want to see the bill. We should get to see it later tonight and all eyes will also be on labourand later tonight and all eyes will also be on labour and Jeremy Corbyn, qt he backed the bill . He has said that he backed the bill . He has said that he wants to be very clear that no deal is off the table and we would have to see what he means by that. He is clearly not happy with that extension which has been agreed today, of course, we will not be leaving the eu on thursday as planned and as promised by Boris Johnson. That has been moved to the 3ist johnson. That has been moved to the 31st of january. The question is whether that is enough forJeremy Corbyn to agree to an election before christmas. Vicki young, it is Michelle Fleury here. With the lib dems and the snp teaming up they can get their majority, how solid do you think that supporters . |j get their majority, how solid do you think that supporters . I think that isa think that supporters . I think that is a problem. These things have a lwa ys is a problem. These things have always been an issue. If you have opposition parties working together oi opposition parties working together or working with the government, clearly, many people feel unhappy about that. The problem is that those parties, the lib dems and as we have heard and as we have heard from the snp, they do not trust the Prime Minister and they wa nt to trust the Prime Minister and they want to make sure that that bill is watertight. But it means going through several stages in the houses of commons. It also has to go through the house of lords and there could be peers in the house of lords who would also do what they could to try and block a general election. So, it is not an easy path, not like the old days where before the fixed term parliaments act a Prime Minister, certainly one who was the short of majority and really finding it difficult to govern, could simply call an election and have that election when they want it. It is not like that any more, which is why borisjohnson is not like that any more, which is why Boris Johnson is finding not like that any more, which is why borisjohnson is finding it so difficult to get to the election that he wants. Vicki young at westminster, thank you so much. Yet again, it is not yet clear whether borisjohnson will get again, it is not yet clear whether Boris Johnson will get that election. We will be back tomorrow to talk about that vote. Now two events in the middle east. The worlds most wanted terrorist is dead. Isis leader Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi blew himself up after being cornered by Us Special Forces in a tunnel in north west syria, in territory thought to be hostile to him. Al baghdadi at one time controlled an area the size of Great Britain, carrying out atrocities which resulted in thousands of deaths. Many hostages were beheaded. But in recent years, the group lost ground in the middle east. Al baghdadis death could not have come at a better time for donald trump. The president has been criticised for withdrawing troops from syria, and is facing an impeachment inquiry by his democratic opponents. Mr trump watched the special forces operation from the white house situation room, and gave this description of what happened. We captured a man that should have been caught a long time ago. Unfortunately, he wasnt, and he has done tremendous damage. But it was an amazing display of intelligence and military power and coordination in getting along with people. Lots of great things happened. So that was a big, big day. Before coming on air, i spoke with former cia director and retired us army general, david petraeus. General petraeus, what is the significance of the death of al baghdadi . I think it is very significant. It is a huge achievement. Al baghdadi was, after all, the leader who established achievements that had never been seen before by islamist extremists, not even by Osama Bin Laden. He established the first caliphate, controlled an area which i think it is roughly the size of Great Britain, certainly the size of the state of indiana, a very large portion of Northern Iraq and North Eastern syria. He also took the whole effort on social media and the internet to an entirely new level. So this finality of his death, obviously, literally puts a stake through the heart of many of the images that he tried to project, not the least of which, again, was this extraordinary achievement of the caliphate. All of that said, and every observer has noted that history shows us that the death of a leader of an extremist organisation, even a hugely successful one like baghdadi or even Osama Bin Laden or al zarqawi or others does not end the threat posed by the organisation they led. Given your background in intelligence, i mean, an operation like this, a raid like this depends on having intelligence on the ground but with us troops withdrawing from syria, does that mean an operation like this would not be possible in the future or at least would be a lot harder . I think the reassuring news of recent days is that the United States is going to retain somewhere around 50 or 60 of that area that they controlled before, using, of course, the Syrian Democratic forces, largely Syrian Kurdish forces on the ground North Eastern syria. That is quite heartening. When i heard that we were withdrawing completely from North Eastern syria, i thought that that represented a new opportunity for the Islamic State, an opportunity for a resurgence. It gave a victory to iran and russia, not our friends and indeed, it called into question our credibility, notjust in syria but around the world. So this willingness to have an enduring presence, to ensure an enduring defeat of the Islamic State, again, it has never been enough to just defeat or even destroy, as we did, alqaeda in iraq during the surge. You have to keep focus on them. You have to have a sustained commitment, albeit one that is crafted in a way that is sustainable in terms of the cost in blood and treasure. Who should americans have their eye on in the future, with al baghdadi gone . What is the threat . The truth is that this threat emerges wherever there are ungoverned or even inadequately governed spaces in the muslim world. Extremists will exploit the spaces, and we do have to do something about them because what happens there does not stay there, it tends to spread violence, extremism and instability and as we saw in the case of syria, a tsunami of refugees, not just into neighbouring countries but all the way to europe and our nato allies. And of course, it caused the kind of domestic populism challenges that governments in europe are dealing with now. You talk about a sustained focus but in recent weeks, there seems to be a lot of confusion about what americas strategy has been. I think there have been questions about what is the future of the us commitment, certainly to syria, perhaps to the region. The announced withdrawal, and then adjustment, stay in half or more of the area of syria, again, has brought about some confusion, even as we have on the us side added over a number of months some 14,000 troops to the gulf states to shore up deterrence and defensive capabilities against iran. I am heartened by the fact that we will keep forces in syria, even if it is around the Oil Producing areas. That is not trivial because that was what the Islamic State generated a lot of revenue from when they controlled that area. It is something that would give our Syrian Democratic forces partners continued revenue, and also, frankly, a bargaining chip of considerable value when it comes to dealing with the government in damascus. General petraeus, were out of time. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us today. Thank you, michelle. She was a rising star in the Democratic Party but last night congresswoman katie hill announced she will be resigning, after allegations of an affair with an aide. In her resignation letter, the freshman representative from california apologised for mistakes made along the way but blamed an abusive husband and hateful political operatives, after naked photos of her appeared in conservative publications. Many have labelled it revenge porn and ms hill said shes exploring legal options. But at 32 years old, she will now be leaving the seat she won less than a year ago. Heather caygle reports on congress for politico and joins us now from capitol hill. Talk us through this. Here is someone accused talk us through this. Here is someone accused of wrongdoing who has denied some of the allegations, admitted to some poorjudgment. So why is she now resigning . Like you said, ithink why is she now resigning . Like you said, i think it is impor

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