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BBCNEWS Beyond 100 Days July 13, 2024

Departure from the European Union on the slst ofjanuary. Also on the programme. The one year countdown to an eu uk trade deal both sides have already sounded their warnings. Will the eu turn to protectionism . Plus, how this airplane passenger made an 88 year olds dream come true thanks to a heart warming act of generosity. Hello and welcome im katty kay in washington and James Reynolds is in london. We dont know, the day after, exactly what impact the impeachment of President Trump will have on the election next year. It could help him or it could hurt him. We do know one thing though impeachment is doing nothing to bring the country together. In the hours since mr trump became the third american president to face the sanction of impeachment, the anger, on both sides has only increased. Republicans today are denouncing what they call a sham, toxic, embarassing process. By contrast, democrats say that the president and Top Republicans have gone rogue. Mr trump himself is back in the white house today after holding a raucous rally in michigan last night. It doesnt really feel like were being impeached. They dont even have any crime. This is the first impeachment where theres no crime. We did nothing wrong, nothing whatsoever. This was just an excuse. Theyve cheapened the impeachment process. This lawless partisan impeachment is a political suicide march for the democrat party. Have you seen my polls in the last four weeks . Cheering. The bbcs Laura Trevelyan is by the white house for us. Mrtrump is now mr trump is now the third a relu cta nt mr trump is now the third a reluctant member of the impeached president s club, what is the mid likely to be at the white house . The president is inside the white house, he will speak in about 45 minutes or so we he will speak in about 45 minutes or so we will hear from him directly. This morning he is avoiding the direct topic of the fact that he is indeed the third president ever to be impeached. He is focusing in on the idea that democrats are holding back before they send the articles of impeachment to the senate for a trial and he is saying that this shows that the whole thing is a hoax. And the white house is pleased that not a single republican defected, so that enables them to present this as just a partisan episode any deeply polarised country, but of course, for the president , who in some ways almost escaped being held accountable in his private life always escaping held accountable and spread lie, he was able to declare bankruptcy, use his wealth, the legal system, nondisclosure agreements, to shield himself from a lot of accountability, now the peoples house has impeached him and he doesnt like it. He told friends any week leading doesnt like it. He told friends any weekleading up to doesnt like it. He told friends any week leading up to this, he did not wa nt week leading up to this, he did not want this on his resume. And yet, last night it was interesting listening to him in mexican, because there was a lot of this being a sham, a crime, andjust there was a lot of this being a sham, a crime, and just listening to him in a michigan. He was almost 20 turn the whole thing around his advantage. Right, because he knows that republicans are in control of the senate and he will be acquitted. This is the worst bit anyway, the impeachment by the house. Soon he will be able to declare vindication, evenif will be able to declare vindication, even if democrats do not send the articles of impeachment or if they send them and there is a quick acquittal. The one thing that it does is become a huge 2020 issue and you can see, already, that the Trump Campaign is fundraising off it, talking about treasonous behaviour by those who tried to impeach him. The Trump Campaign will use it to drive ternet, fundraising and a further wedge against the democrats. Thank you so much. Last night, two democrats in the house broke party ranks and voted against impeaching mr trump on the charge of abuse of power. Three broke ranks and voted against impeaching him on the charge of obstruction of congress. Today republicans, from the president down, are seizing on that to say their party has come out of this process more united than the Democratic Party. When she started this impeachment, she promised her own members that the public would be for it. Well, we found that not to be the case. She promised that theyd be stronger theyre going to be smaller. Were the stronger conference after it. Ijust dont find that any of this was healthy in any aspect that you measure. It definitely is not healthy for our government, but it is definitely not healthy for america itself around the world. And joining us now from new york is President Trumps former director of communications, anthony scaramucci. Thank you forjoining the programme. I want to pick up on that point that Kevin Mccarthy was just making that this has not been good for the country as a whole. As a medical less healthy because of impeachment process . Less healthy because of impeachment process . Is america less healthy. I think it is more healthy. It is the process when you have someone thatis the process when you have someone that is acting on this and lets just already claim again because there was a crime. Theyjust did not put it in the context of impeachment because of tactics and strategy. He is out there effectively by the need foran is out there effectively by the need for an official to get information ona for an official to get information on a political adversary, so it is also a form of fascism because he is attacking individual citizens who are private citizens, someone like Vice President biden, so it is obviously crime. Kevin mccarthy, what he is trying to say is that the argument is in process and the argument is in process and the argument on optics and i think it was quite valid ways of voting for impeachment, those who did vote for impeachment. There was a lot of democrats in tough districts, trump is districts, that voted for it a nyway is districts, that voted for it anyway because they understand the constitution and that they have to make sure that nobody is above the syste m make sure that nobody is above the system of law inside the United States and that is what made this pie so great and frankly, that has given me the opportunity to live the american dream. If we had a tyrannical system, a lunatic like President Trump, for the last hundred years or that cellar management, we would never have a plurality of opportunity that we have in the country, so yesterday was a great day for america or that style of management. What will likely be a bad day for america is at the senate decides, after looking at the senate decides, after looking at the senate decides, after looking at the evidence and looking at the law and recognising that there are four or five primary witnesses that have not been called to testify, people like mick and of may or my compay already giuliani and if they do not testify acquit him, that will bea do not testify acquit him, that will be a bad day for america mr giuliani. And we talked about optics, that is widely around the world, we covered it widely at the bbc and one who has been watching particularly capital i was president Vladimir Putin in russia. I want to play but he just said about the impeachment process. I want to play what he said about the impeachment process. Translation the Democratic Party is trying to get the results it wanted by other means and accusing trump of collusion with russia, then it turns out that there was no collusion and that this cannot be the basis for impeachment. Now theyre trying to pressure him through ukraine, which is made up. So republicans have usually stood firm against russia, but im listening to present put in there and im almost hitting republican talking points about this impeachment process president putin. The language is almost the same, what do you make of that . He is obviously the White House Communications director. He would have lasted longer than 11 days at the peten and the job because that is literally exactly what they are saying. Im not here to comment on the russian us relationship and i find it is odd that the republicans have decided to side with the russians and i hope there are enough people in the eight states that are psychologically minded that they will look at the facts that are going on in the United States, and will seek to oust him in 2020 or seek for his removal. Those are the choices we have just now. 20 republican senators out of 50 they would need to break with Republican Party to convict mr trump. In alphabetical order, if you would like, can you name the 20 republican senators most likely to defect . see a bit differently than that. You need about four or five senators, someone need about four or five senators, someone like senator alexander or senator romney or senator collins, if you get four or five senators to just call for a fair process and a fair trial, and then you can get justice roberts, to subpoena there was a primary witnesses, i believe that the president resigned the next day. Because there is absolutely no way that those witnesses are going to lie under oath in a nationally Televised Senate trial and so, i dont think you need to 19. I think you need four or five and then we call this the needy and it will basically be game over, Richard Nixon like activity. We call this a day. Whenever it happens, it may look likely. Dont misunderstand me. The president will never be able to withstand the on the record, on the author for a five primary witness testimonies including john boltons testimony. There is no chance of that. On the oath. Lets see if that happens. Mitch mcconnell wants a short try, maybe even shorter than the time is spent as a white house staffer, with a short while be a good idea . Lesson, it has a fair trial, i dont really mind the shortness of the trial. But if it is not a fair trial, lets see it as a soviet style trial and they just trial, lets see it as a soviet style trial and theyjust Kangaroo Court acquit him, i think that is very bad for the country. I think yesterday was very good, that would be very bad. A fair, due process, nobody is above the rule of law, the guy broke the law and we have not heard from primary witnesses yet. That would be the tell tale thing. We have to see if that happens, but a short trial, i get a lot of things donein a short trial, i get a lot of things done in 11 days. You can get a lot done in 11 days. You can get a lot donein done in 11 days. You can get a lot done in 11 days. You can get a lot done in 11 days, trust me. He to our viewers around the world, why this process and why these witnesses, in your belief, so critical and could, as youve made it out, lead to a very dramatic outcome for the president. John bolton, there were two or three people testifying about him not wanting to get involved with the drug deal that was going on. The metaphor they used there. The secretary of state pompeo would have thing to say about this, he would have to open up and sit honestly under oath. He did go to west point andl under oath. He did go to west point and i do not think is going to commit perjury for the president. And i think once you have full confirmation of the recklessness, the amorality, the lawlessness, the bribery, you know, ithink it the amorality, the lawlessness, the bribery, you know, i think it is very very possible that the president resigns. I also think it is very possible that, if those smoking guns are lodged inside the trial, that he may get to those 20 people that i could not name in alphabetical order, but they may say, i do not need this aggravation, we need to get rid of the sky. Thank you very much. Knowing the president. Go ahead, go on. Iwas just then, knowing the present as well as i know him, he just then, knowing the present as wellas i know him, he is just then, knowing the present as well as i know him, he is any full blown panic over this. Well as i know him, he is any full blown panic over this. Thats president as well as anyone. He has any film planning right now and fora he has any film planning right now and for a fiver those people break, he is taking the helicopter back and out. Which is why the process matters. Happy holidays, thank you. There isa is a lot of debate about the process today. We will talk more about when this actually does go to the senate. 0ne more about when this actually does go to the senate. One thing that theres not much debate about his Nancy Pelosis hold on her party. I wa nt to Nancy Pelosis hold on her party. I want to play you, again, at the moment where she declared that President Trump had been impeached because they had passed the article of impeachment. I have not seen it. Article one is adopted. It is that. What was that at the end . That is like, what i did my children, dont even think about it, guys. No applause, was that what she meant . The democrats were about to celebrate. Would anyone dare to dissipate sketch disobey her . |j celebrate. Would anyone dare to dissipate sketch disobey her . I have met her many times and you would not dissipate nancy pelosi, she is ferocious. They were about to cheer the article of impeachment and she is like, kids, do not even go there. I suppose that as the americans have been looking at it, britain has got one as well, the queens speech where black rod gets the door slammed in his face, the representative of the queen. The victorious conservative government has been setting out its agenda for the next year in the queens speech. There was a certain sense of deja vu amid the pomp and ceremony and thats because the last queens speech was only nine weeks ago, before the uk went to the polls. There is a decisive difference now the conservative party is now in power and Boris Johnson is able to make his promises reality, as the queen outlined today. My governments priority is to deliver the united kingdoms departure from the European Union on the slst ofjanuary. My ministers will bring forward legislation to ensure the united kingdoms exit on that date and to make the most of the opportunities that this brings for all the people of the united kingdom. This governments priority as we heard over and over again during the campaign is to get the uk out of the eu. Out of the 30 plus bills announced today, 7 were about brexit, but the governments also announced other plans enshrining into law its commitment to boost nhs funding and increasing prison sentences for violent offenders. The National Insurance threshold will be raised, and the National Minimum wage also goes up too. Also, a new lifetime deposit for renters, so they dont have to save up every time they move. The introduction of a points based immigration system, which the uk couldnt do while it was an eu member, and more funding for schools. Now, lets bring in conservative member of parliament gillian keegan. She represents chichester. Kind of you tojoin us. Britain is she represents chichester. Kind of you to join us. Britain is leaving the eu on the 31st of january as pa rt the eu on the 31st of january as part of a transition deal. That is in no way saying that brexit is over. That is really the beginning, surely, of another process, the negotiations toward a trade deal and a future negotiation. Why is the Brexit Department being abolished and why is the term brexit being phased out . Well, it is actually a very important step. It is not to be underestimated. If you think back to the parliament that we had, the last parliament, the vast majority of the discussion was about rerunning the referendum, so once we actually pass as withdrawal bill, that will be gone. So we will definitely be leaving and we will then of course have left the institutions and we then had a year to put in place a new agreement. A lot of the groundwork is being done already, so for 3. 5 years thousands of Civil Servants have been working across the channel and here on putting in place the bare bones, the principles, i guess, place the bare bones, the principles, iguess, of place the bare bones, the principles, i guess, of a trade deal, which is why we think it is very possible to do with envy gear. A lot of that work has already begun and it is just a lot of that work has already begun and it isjust going to be to get that pit into an agreement, basically so that we can all sign up to to do within the year. Basically so that we can all sign up to to do within the year. Page seven of your manifesto, we have introduced and consistently raised the National Living wage and will do it further. Page 60 of the government briefing document accompanying todays queen speech, the chancellor says that the National Living wage will increase, providing that Economic Conditions allow. That is quite a qualification, which is not what voters who read the manifesto, that page, where thinking, were expecting. We have already increased and we have already put in deviously and we have already put in deviously and in previous budgets, a plan of continual increase. Of the minimum wage. And that will go up to i think 10p 50 by the period 2023 or 2024. £10 50. That is 10p 50 by the period 2023 or 2024. £10 50. That is why you have the budget every year, and a review of the budget, mid term to make sure that you can afford as a country, only thing that you pledge. Of course that is the case, but i have no doubt that the minimum wage will be going up and i have doubt that our economy will continue to thrive as we leave the European Union and, if you look at what happened after this election, a lot of investment that had been pent up, waiting to be made in the country, was started to be made and it has released this kind of pressure valve that we have had. Im very confident of that. Nobody can predict the future when youre looking forward four and five years, three and four years even. So thatis years, three and four years even. So that isjust years, three and fou

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