And kelly hyman, legal analyst and democratic strategist welcome to you all. There is a section in the Special Counsels indictment in which jack smith breaks down this alleged scheme into five distinct parts. First, it begins with the false claims of Election Fraud. It is important to note that the doj says explicitly that donald trump it is important to note that the doj did know that he had lost the election and made knowingly false claims about it. Second, the former president and his Co Conspirators launched a seven state strategy to pressure state and local officials to overturn the officially certified results. Third, they weaponised, to coin a phrase, Thejustice Department to lend credence to these false claims of Election Fraud to try to pressure State Officials. Fourth, they pressured the Vice President , mike pence, to do something they knew was unconstitutional and illegal. And finally, which brings us to the violence of january 6th, they exploited that disruption and redoubled their efforts on the ellipse that to push the false claims of Election Fraud. A five chapter assessment of the Conspirachack Smith will set out in court. But at the root of it, the very fact that donald trump knew his claims to be false, any reasonable man would know them to be false, and he pushed them anyway. Good evening. Today, an indictment was unsealed judging donald] trump with conspiring to defraud the United States, conspire sing to the United States, conspiring to disenfranchise voters and conspiring in attempting to obstruct an official proceeding. The indictment was issued by a grand jury of citizens here in the district of columbia, and it sets forth the crimes charged in detail. I encourage everyone to read it in full. The attack on our Nations Capital on January The 6th, 2021 was an unprecedented assault on the seat of american democracy. As described in the indictment, it was fuelled by lies. Lies by the defendant targeted at obstructing a Bedrock Function of the Us Government, the nations process of collecting, counting and certifying the results of the president ial election. The men and women of Law Enforcement who defended the us capital Onjanuary The 6th our heroes. OnJanuary The 6th are heroes. They are patriots, and they are the very best of us. They did notjust defend a building or the people sheltering in it. They put their lives on the line to defend who we are as a country and as a people. They defended the very institutions and principles that define the United States. Since the attack on our capitol, the Department Ofjustice Has remained committed to ensuring accountability for those criminally responsible for what happened that day. This case is brought consistent with that commitment. And our investigation of other individuals continues. In this case, my office will seek a speedy trial that are evidence can be tested in court and judged by a jury of citizens. In the meantime, i must emphasise that the indictment is only an allegation and the defendant must be presumed innocent until Proven GuiltyBeyond A Reasonable Doubt in a court of law. I would like to thank the members of the Federal Bureau Of Investigation who are working on this investigation with my office, as well as the many Career Prosecutors and Law Enforcement agents from around the country who have worked on previous January The 6th investigations. These women and men are Public Servants of the very highest order, and it is a privilege to work alongside them. Thank you. Jack smith, Special Counsel, speaking last night after the indictment. Donald trump dismissed this third indictment as political persecution. Kelly hyman, five chapters. How persuasive do you think this will be to a jury . How persuasive do you think this will be to a jury . Will be to a ury . First we have to look at it will be to a jury . First we have to look at it from a will be to a jury . First we have to look at it from a standpoint will be to a jury . First we have to i look at it from a standpoint that he was indicted. That means that the evidence presented to the grand jury believe that he should be charged with a serious crime. These are serious crimes and it shows that people need to be held accountable for their actions and that no one, no matter who you are in the us, is above the law. Having said that, in the court of law, you are innocent until Proven Guilty, so he hasnt been convicted of the crimes. But based on the evidence presented to them, ultimately, itll be up to the jury them, ultimately, itll be up to the jury to make a determination whether they think that he should be convicted of these serious crimes of. , ~ , , of. Its right, miles. This is very different to of. Its right, miles. This is very different to the of. Its right, miles. This is very different to the other of. Its right, miles. This is very i different to the other indictments weve seen. The hush money payment case, the case of the classified documents. This relates specifically to his time in office. It goes to the very heart of how the Us Constitution works, the way the votes are cast, the way theyre counted. It doesnt get more fundamental than that. It counted. It doesnt get more fundamental than that. It doesnt aet more fundamental than that. It doesnt get more fundamental, fundamental than that. It doesntj get more fundamental, christian, fundamental than that. It doesnt get more fundamental, christian, and in keeping get more fundamental, christian, and in keeping with that, compared to the other in keeping with that, compared to the other indictments, this one is so much the other indictments, this one is so much more robust in that you have people so much more robust in that you have peeple who so much more robust in that you have people who are witnesses to this from people who are witnesses to this from the people who are witnesses to this from the highest levels of the federal from the highest levels of the federal government all the way down to Security Federal government all the way down to Security Officers who were trying to Security Officers who were trying to safeguard the United States capitoh to safeguard the United States capitol. It really is incredibly comprehensive, and when you read it, you find comprehensive, and when you read it, you find out comprehensive, and when you read it, you find out that donald trump very clearly you find out that donald trump very clearly knew his claims were false, his vice clearly knew his claims were false, his Vice President of the United States his Vice President of the United States said it, his Attorney General said it. States said it, his Attorney General said it. His states said it, his Attorney General said it, his lawyers said it. Election said it, his lawyers said it. Election officials across the country Election Officials across the country he was talking to said it. It country he was talking to said it. It really country he was talking to said it. It really is country he was talking to said it. It really is pretty breathtaking to read this it really is pretty breathtaking to read this in scope, and it is important read this in scope, and it is important that jack smith said defendants are innocent until Proven Guilty, defendants are innocent until Proven Guilty, but defendants are innocent until Proven Guilty, but its really tough to read guilty, but its really tough to read this guilty, but its really tough to read this indictment. And not see how the read this indictment. And not see how the prosecutor would win this case against donald trump. Its very compelling case against donald trump. Its very compelling and its an avalanche of evidence compelling and its an avalanche of evidence. , �. ,. , evidence. Jennifer, im going to ick out evidence. Jennifer, im going to pick out bits evidence. Jennifer, im going to pick out bits of evidence. Jennifer, im going to pick out bits of indictment, evidence. Jennifer, im going to pick out bits of indictment, but| pick out bits of indictment, but this one specific part of it, page 14, this one specific part of it, page ia, section 28, which miles talked about. An official who we thought could be mark meadows goes down to georgia. This is december the 23rd. This is to look at the cobb county vote to see whether things have been don properly. He notifies that State Officials were conducting themselves in an exemplary fashion and he tells the president that if there is any fraud in the vote, they will find it. And that very same day, Donald Trump Tweets that the officials in cobb county are terrible people. That is very revealing, isnt it . All depends on perspective on where you come from. Keep in mind the context because most people want to get into the mind of donald trump to say this is how he felt, this is what you knew, this is what he was thinking. Whenjames kony came out with the information by Hillary Clinton and he said she didnt intend to, he didnt speak to her of her intent. Now were getting into Donald Trumps mind whether he intended to say the things he did in a malicious way and knowing that information was false. Were not the jury, so i caution as we are outside looking in, its easy to play Monday Morning quarterback. What donald trump went through for the four years he was in office constantly had a barrage of information being leaked out that things were that he was doing that he knew he was not doing, like the russia collusion. 60 years down the line, we find out that information was totally fabricated, so therefore if internally hes feeling the organisation is against him and he is another evidence six years. In his mind, we cant say if he knew or felt that this information was false. ~ ,. ,. , felt that this information was false. ~. ,. , false. Well, donald trump has already been false. Well, donald trump has already been charged false. Well, donald trump has already been charged in false. Well, donald trump has already been charged in two i false. Well, donald trump has already been charged in two other unrelated cases. Hes do to take down my face trial in new york next month in payments to the former film star, stormy daniels. He unlawfully held onto military classified documents, but it is claimed. Kelly hyman, i get the sense from the prosecutor that he wants to act with speed. Do you get a sense that as soon as this is done tomorrow, he will take precedence . This case will take precedence . Because people need to know the outcome of this case before they can vote. I outcome of this case before they can vote. ~. , � , outcome of this case before they can vote. ~. , 3 ~ , outcome of this case before they can vote. ~. � , ~ ,. , vote. I think thats key. There was a recent study vote. I think thats key. There was a recent study poll vote. I think thats key. There was a recent study poll that vote. I think thats key. There was a recent study poll that was vote. I think thats key. There was a recent study poll that was done, and based on the poll result, no matter if you were republican, democrat, it independent, people agree that the trial should before the collection. I would guess most likely Trump Lawyers would like that the trials to go after the election. I think thats going to be key and i think we will see how that plays out in court and Donald Trumps attorneys to continue the trial past the 202a election. Attorneys to continue the trial past the 2024 election. The 2024 election. Miles, do you think the reason the 2024 election. Miles, do you think the reason hes the 2024 election. Miles, do you think the reason hes not the 2024 election. Miles, do you| think the reason hes not indicted the Co Conspirators there are six of them says that he wants to focus public attention on donald trump himself. Why do you think hes not indicted the other six . Jack smith made not indicted the other six . Jack smith made clear not indicted the other six . Jack smith made clear that this was ongoing smith made clear that this was ongoing i smith made clear that this was ongoing. I think the reason for get this one ongoing. I think the reason for get this one out ongoing. I think the reason for get this one out against one defendant is to do this one out against one defendant is to do exactly what he said in press conference. Its to enable a speedy press conference. Its to enable a speedy trial. Were trying to get this one speedy trial. Were trying to get this one defendant in the courtroom as test this one defendant in the courtroom as fast as this one defendant in the courtroom as fast as possible. I would be very surprised as fast as possible. I would be very surprised if as fast as possible. I would be very surprised if some of these other Co Conspirators are not indicted. They Co Conspirators are not indicted. They clearly engaged in Criminal Behaviour they clearly engaged in Criminal Behaviour so i would expect that to come behaviour so i would expect that to come in behaviour so i would expect that to come in the behaviour so i would expect that to come in the not too distant future. At the come in the not too distant future. At the other come in the not too distant future. At the other thing i want to push back at the other thing i want to push back on. At the other thing i want to push back on, not being in Donald Trumps head, back on, not being in Donald Trumps head. I back on, not being in Donald Trumps head. Iwas back on, not being in Donald Trumps head, i was on the inside in the stretches head, i was on the inside in the stretches back several years. When i was in stretches back several years. When i was in the stretches back several years. When i was in the trump administration, and meetings was in the trump administration, and meetings with the president and air force meetings with the president and air force one. Meetings with the president and air force one, he talked about how he wanted force one, he talked about how he wanted to force one, he talked about how he wanted to use the Insurrection Act to enable wanted to use the Insurrection Act to enable him to have more power. And we to enable him to have more power. And we see to enable him to have more power. And we see top advisers before january and we see top advisers before January The 6th, musings about the act. January the 6th, musings about the act this January The 6th, musings about the act. This was not something spur of the moment. He spent many years laying the moment. He spent many years laying the the moment. He spent many years laying the groundwork for this, i asked laying the groundwork for this, i asked aids about it, and i can testify asked aids about it, and i can testify to asked aids about it, and i can testify to that in person and first hand asked aides. That testify to that in person and firsthand asked aides. That is the oint firsthand asked aides. That is the point that firsthand asked aides. That is the point that jack firsthand asked aides. That is the point that jack smith firsthand asked aides. That is the point that jack smith comes l firsthand asked aides. That is| the point that jack smith comes to on page two of the indictment, jennifer, that he knows there will be First Amendment defence to this. The president was expressing his right, to speak freely, even to lie about the election. But that doesnt entitle him to conspire with others to defraud the country of its election, to deny the votes that were cast. Do you think a First Amendment defence is going to stand up Amendment Defence is going to stand up under that sort of scrutiny . Well, thats why it goes that route for the well, thats why it goes that route for the jury well, thats why it goes that route for the jury to well, thats why it goes that route for the jury to hear well, thats why it goes that route for the jury to hear evidence for the jury to hear evidence on lpoth for the jury to hear evidence on both sides for the jury to hear evidence on both sides. Because for the jury to hear evidence on both sides. Be