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BBCNEWS Newsday July 4, 2024

Significantly after the worst wildfires to hit an american state in more than a century. Our North America correspondent John Sudworth reports from the island. Vital supplies being loaded onto a boat that would normally be taking tourists whale watching. Theyre now making multiple daily trips into the Disaster Zone with a growing sense of frustration. We are all wondering, why was there no help sent from oahu . Pearl harbor is a 20 minute flight away, right . Why are the limited resources of police on this island left alone . Where is the support for them . Why are we taking supplies on a boat instead of helicopter . We do this because we have to. An hour into the journey and the devastation along the shoreline comes into view. We can quite clearly see the town of lahaina now and you can make out is the blackened landscape above the town where the grass was burning and what happened with the Hurricane Blowing away off to the south, the pressure brought the wind over the top of the island, picking up speed on the way down the mountainside and then picking up sparks from that fire and bringing them directly into the town. They didnt stand a chance. Inside, there is little left. But remnants of shattered lives and livelihoods. A stark reminder of the deep humanitarian need here. As the aid is brought ashore, many of those helping out have also been affected by the fire. I was fighting for my life with my four year old boy in my hands. I was in the water for eight hours. There was a point that in my head i was thinking, thats it, you know. But my boy kept me going to survive. This footage shows the terror for those having to take shelter in the water. Seems that once again prompt that same question. We were wondering, where is the help . When we want to get the help, we are waiting for it and we need it really bad. There are huge challenges for the authorities, not least searching for Human Remains while securing a site from the public and the media. Weve got to go quick and we have got to do it right. When we pick up the remains and they fall apart, and so when you have 200 people running through the scene yesterday and some of you, thats what youre stepping on. I dont know how much more you want me to describe it. Thats what youre stepping on. Give us a little bit of time to contain that. Please. Five days on, the true scale of hawaiis disaster is becoming clearer. John sudworth, bbc news, maui. The focus is now on getting aid to survivors. My colleague Helena Humphrey is in maui. Monica, we are here on the road to lahaina. This is as close as we can get. You can see the last Police Checkpoint here behind me stop right now they are only allowing Emergency Workers in and there are some concerns as well about the smouldering ruins and the potential for any smouldering ruins and the potentialfor any kind of potential for any kind of flareup in terms of the fires and you only have to take a look at the conditions here, high winds now as well. If you take a look you can see that incredibly dry, drought stricken landscape as well. But it comes at a time that more calls are coming from Inside Lahaina for more aid to get in in terms of food, clean drinking water, shelterfor these people who have lost everything. That community has been completely decimated. We have also been speaking to more federal authorities who have been coming on to the island. We met two officers from border protection, they say what they have seen Inside Lahaina is actually grim. That is how they put it. And when we asked about Co Ordination efforts in terms of getting 18 they said at times it has been a case of hurry up and wait. All of this coming at a time when there have been concerns now about the Early Warning system, but also about the speed of response here. Also about the speed of resonse here. ,. ,. , response here. Helena, you have soken response here. Helena, you have spoken to response here. Helena, you have spoken to some response here. Helena, you have spoken to some of response here. Helena, you have spoken to some of the response here. Helena, you have spoken to some of the people. Spoken to some of the people who have just lost everything. How are they coping . Monica, everybody how are they coping . Monica, everybody here how are they coping . Monica, everybody here knows how are they coping . Monica, i everybody here knows someone who has lost everything. This is a very small, tightknit community. We were down at the harbour earlier because there were a lot of volunteers, people from the community, were using their votes to try to get aid into binar. We met a young man down there, blake, who was traumatised. He was holding a cowboy hat and when we spoke to me is that this is my sole possession, this is all they have left. He is a lahaina resident and he has lost everything in these fires. This is what he said to me. fin everything in these fires. This is what he said to me. Is what he said to me. On the inside people is what he said to me. On the inside people need is what he said to me. On the inside people need help, is what he said to me. On the | inside people need help, gas, people inside people need help, gas, people cant come back. Everybody in australia. There are a everybody in australia. There are a lot everybody in australia. There are a lot of people who are still are a lot of people who are still stranded over there. They dont still stranded over there. They dont have cell service, they dont dont have cell service, they dont know what is going on on the side dont know what is going on on the side. Of those who dont have the side. Of those who dont have cars the side. Of those who dont have cars is even harder. People have cars is even harder. People are riding bikes and emails people are riding bikes and e mails to the other side to find e mails to the other side to find out e mails to the other side to find out what is happening and ust find out what is happening and just to find out what is happening and just to see everyone is living a normal just to see everyone is living a normal life on the other side of the a normal life on the other side of the island, its hard to accept of the island, its hard to accept. So anybody that is looking accept. So anybody that is looking to donate, try and do your looking to donate, try and do your research and go to the small your research and go to the small families and find the private small families and find the private party go find ms and things private party go find ms and things like that rather than the bigger organisations, because that is good for long term and that money is much long term and that money is much appreciated, all donations are much much appreciated, all donations are much appreciated, but lahaina are much appreciated, but Lahaina Needs A right now and the money going to the smaller organisations, the smaller families organisations, the smaller families is directed that day, that families is directed that day, that money is spent that day. You that money is spent that day. You are that money is spent that day. You are holding your hat, i know you went back to lahaina. Just tell us what you found there, the fact that you are able to recover this as your soul belonging. So why wasnt able to grab my truck, wasnt able to grab my truck, wasnt able to grab anything out of the house, was running out the house and up and down the block telling people it was time to go and i knew it was likely to take out the time. The hardest thin for take out the time. The hardest thing for that take out the time. The hardest thing for that the take out the time. The hardest thing for that the owners take out the time. The hardest thing for that the owners of. Thing for that the owners of the houses, luckily im a renter, the houses, luckily im a renter, but the owners of the houses renter, but the owners of the houses they dont want to accept houses they dont want to accept that their houses to bow down accept that their houses to bow down so accept that their houses to bow down so it accept that their houses to bow down so it is hard for those people down so it is hard for those people to get out of the house. It is people to get out of the house. It is a people to get out of the house. It is a small town, it is a strong it is a small town, it is a strong community, the strongest they have strong community, the strongest they have ever seen, it is almost they have ever seen, it is almost impossible to get somebody to leave their house untit somebody to leave their house until the somebody to leave their house until the house is going to burn until the house is going to burn down. This hat is the only thing burn down. This hat is the only thing that burn down. This hat is the only thing that made it of mine. I just thing that made it of mine. I just recently started riding hulls. Just recently started riding bulls, so it was a big sign it to me bulls, so it was a big sign it to me that i should just keep doing to me that i should just keep doing what i want to do and keep doing what i want to do and keep pushing through No Matter What keep pushing through No Matter What it keep pushing through No Matter What. It was in my truck and my truck what. It was in my truck and my truck was what. It was in my truck and my truck was completely melted. | truck was completely melted. I can truck was completely melted. Can tell truck was completely melted. I can tell you that there are so many other people like him with these kinds of similar stories and youve got to keep in mind as well that over 1000 people on this island, they remain unaccounted for. Probably should say bublik� s story as well is that with him with some of his friends, they have been sleeping outside, they have a pickup truck, they have been going around the islands trying to distribute aid to other people, fuel, other supplies as well, despite the fact that blake has lost everything. We know that rob recovery continues here on lahaina but it is a slow process. Yesterday we heard just 3 of that rubble had been gone through with cadaver sniffer dogs. Because of we do expect the death toll to rise significantly. We have heard from President Biden saying there is more than just impress coming in, more federal aid will be coming in, 200 more from the national guard, he was askedif from the national guard, he was asked if he was going to be visiting and he said it is something they are looking into, at a time when this island tries to recovery, tries to process what is happening here in what is the worst thing while wildfire in america for over a century. While wildfire in america for over a century. While wildfire in america for over a century. Thank you very much for over a century. Thank you very much for for over a century. Thank you very much forjoining for over a century. Thank you very much forjoining us. For over a century. Thank you very much forjoining us. It. For over a century. Thank you very much forjoining us. It is just extraordinary what people can do. We go to thomas heaton. He has covered the story on the ground and in the state capitol. He joins us from honolulu. Thanks forjoining us on the programme. Forjoining us on the programme. Forjoining us on the rorramme. , ~. ,. , programme. Thank you for having me. It is programme. Thank you for having me it isim programme. Thank you for having me. It isjust extraordinary programme. Thank you for having me. It isjust extraordinary to me. It is ust extraordinary to see how me. It isjust extraordinary to see how fast me. It isjust extraordinary to see how fast that me. It isjust extraordinary to see how fast that fire me. It isjust extraordinary to see how fast that fire move. L see how fast that fire move. Tell us a little bit about the landscape. What was the precipitation like over the past few months . How did this fire spread so Fast And Furious . Fire spread so Fast And Furious . ~. , ,. , furious . Wildfire has been an increasing furious . Wildfire has been an increasing issue furious . Wildfire has been an increasing issue in furious . Wildfire has been an increasing issue in a furious . Wildfire has been an increasing issue in a long increasing issue in a long time. The Drought Conditions that are currently taking hold on the west side of maui are not necessarily unique to just maui. The way the islands are kind of built mean the west sides of our islands are generally drier. So they tend to see more wildfires. In the annual risk of wildfire on west maui is actually about 90 , thatis maui is actually about 90 , that is according to a Hazard Mitigation report that maui had drawn up for it. So fire is anticipated, but with a Hurricane Dora coming south of maui, creating those high winds, it really fuelled those conditions. There has been a proliferation of invasive grasses, which are set alight very quickly and with the massive wins, 80 mph winds, that means that the fire can spread rapidly. And part of this whole issue is a mix of underfunded fire and rescue services and that means a lack of equipment and personnel as well as the expanding footprint of wildfires as Climate Change takes hold. And fires are becoming increasingly severe, essentially more common. And experts have been sounding alarms as loudly as they can, but the urgency required has obviously not been there to deal with these wildfire prone places. Deal with these wildfire prone laces. ,. ,. , deal with these wildfire prone laces. ,. , places. Thomas, what is shocking places. Thomas, what is shocking is places. Thomas, what is shocking is this places. Thomas, what is shocking is this is places. Thomas, what is shocking is this is a places. Thomas, what is i shocking is this is a tourist town, 20 minutes from an airport, how did it get caught off so quickly . Airport, how did it get caught off so quickly . Well, there are ust a off so quickly . Well, there are just a coople off so quickly . Well, there are just a couple of off so quickly . Well, there are just a couple of roads off so quickly . Well, there are just a couple of roads in off so quickly . Well, there are just a couple of roads in and l just a couple of roads in and out of lahaina. So what essentially happened is in the Early Morning of Tuesday A Fire was reported, a brushfire was reported at about 6am. That was leave reported as being contained. And meanwhile there were other fires contained. And meanwhile there were otherfires going contained. And meanwhile there were other fires going on contained. And meanwhile there were otherfires going on on maui. And believe what actually in i have heard this from county staff is that they re prioritised to look at the fires further east of lahaina. So what actually happened was it people of god. 0ne so what actually happened was it people of god. One thing that my colleagues are really working on now is looking into the powerlines and utilities and how they may have played a role, because 29 palamo polls were downed due to wind and it appears they were not turned off, so that really hampered efforts to get out, out or in, because it was essentially acting like an electric fence power poles. And it was stoking the fire. Power poles. And it was stoking the fire. Stoking the fire. Thomas heaton. Stoking the fire. Thomas heaton, thank stoking the fire. Thomas heaton, thank you stoking the fire. Thomas heaton, thank you for i stoking the fire. Thomas heaton, thank you forjoining us in the programme. Lets turn to the uk. Theres growing pressure on the government to do more to stop migrants crossing the English Channel on small boats after six people drowned off the coast of france. 59 people, many of them afghans, were rescued by coastguards. They say this is the seventh and this week theyve had to pull people from water. Uk ministers have pushed double or through parliament which make it illegalfor people to claim asylum in britain if they arrived on small boats. Simonjones has the latest. Despite yesterdays deaths in the channel off the coast of france, the crossings continued. 500 more people were brought to shore this weekend. Every boat arriving puts more pressure on a Prime Minister who has made stopping them one of his top five priorities. Labour says the people smugglers organising the journeys are Running Rings around the government and it accuses ministers of allowing the Asylum Backlog to get completely out of control. Process cases, get decisions made as quickly as possible and then you can take action if people dont have a right to be in this country. And for those who do, you can make sure that theyre allowed to get on and live the rest of their lives happily, but also action on these criminal gangs. The government says new legislation is beginning to have an impact on the exploitative Business Model of the smugglers. And it insists increased patrols on beaches in Northern France alongside a new Returns Agreement with albania are delivering results. There are record numbers of people arriving in europe at the moment, but the actual numbers coming from france into the United Kingdom have gone down. Theres a lot of work thats been undertaken to achieve that. Were working very closely with the french government now to stop boats being launched. Obviously, we havent stopped them all. Its going to continue to be a problem. But we have stopped a lot. Today, the winds have whipped up, meaning there have been no more crossings. But as soon as conditions improve, inevitably the people smugglers will be launching more boats from the beaches of Northern France, bringing with them the further risk of tragedies in the channel. 0n the seafront in dover, a memorial to remember those who have died seeking sanctuary in the uk. Six more men will now be added to that list. Unfortunately, it was going to happen some time and well have another one before long. All the time people are trying to cross the channel in these boats which are not designed for the purpose, then unfortunately things will go wrong. And po

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