From his big superpower neighbours that he seeks, he wants technical help for his own weapons programme. North korea faces critical technological hurdles in its nuclear and missile development, and beyond that, it needs foreign currency and oil, all of which the russians can provide. It is not the first time the Us National Security council has declassified information to get ahead of russias plans. Two us sources say the Arms Negotiations between the two countries are actively advancing. And in recent weeks, mr kim has visited a series of his ammunition factories, exhorting key officials to step up production. Begs the question, why . Sergey radchenko is an expert on Russian Politics and a distinguished professor at the henry a Kissinger Center for global affairs. Thank you for being with us this evening. What does this tell us, then, about the russian State Of Affairs on the front line, if they need ammunition from north korea . The sin of affairs has not been great for russia for a year and a half. The war has become a very prolonged war. It is taxing Russian Military capabilities of its manpower, and also its productive capacity, so we have heard this rumour that potentially russia is trying to source ammunition from north korea. The Russian Ministry of defence visited pyongyang, and what this latest set of statements from the United States suggests is that perhaps kim jong un could the United States suggests is that perhaps kimjong un could be visiting russia for the far Eastern Economic forum, which may result in the signing of some agreements, or they may even be secret, but anyway north korea could be providing a munition to rush in the coming weeks and months. Munition to rush in the coming weeks and month and months. Obviously the borders will be closed and months. Obviously the borders will be closed in and months. Obviously the borders will be closed in north and months. Obviously the borders will be closed in north korea and months. Obviously the borders will be closed in north korea for. Will be closed in north korea for two years since the covid pandemic. He has not left the country. Why now . What is it about this particular timing that is important to both sides . Kim particular timing that is important to both sides . Particular timing that is important to both sides . Kim jonguns visit to both sides . Kim jonguns visit to russia is to both sides . Kim jonguns visit to russia is nothing to both sides . Kim jonguns visit to russia is nothing super to russia is nothing super extraordinary in itself. He has actually visited once before, and his father visited russia on multiple occasions in a very special armoured train. I guess what is important now is that rush is quite isolated on the international stage, and this is the time. Russia for years before has been participating in the sanctions against north korea, so the question now is, is russia going to violate its own sanctions against north korea by buying this ammunition from north korea and potentially supplying north korea with vital Military Technology . That is the big question, and also the Beer Question in this, are russia and north korea drifting together to become almost military allies anyway that throws us back to the cold war period, to the 19505 . Us back to the cold war period, to the 1950s . , � us back to the cold war period, to the 15350s . Us back to the cold war period, to the 19505 . The 1950s . Yeah, im going to put that to our the 1950s . Yeah, im going to put that to our panel the 1950s . Yeah, im going to put that to our panel in the 1950s . Yeah, im going to put that to our panel in a the 1950s . Yeah, im going to put i that to our panel in a second. There was one other thing that occurred to me, and that is that if they are seeking weapons from north korea, they are not getting those weapons from china. , they are not getting those weapons from china. , , they are not getting those weapons from china. ,. , from china. China has been fairly careful, from china. China has been fairly careful. Fairly from china. China has been fairly careful, fairly careful from china. China has been fairly careful, fairly careful in from china. China has been fairly careful, fairly careful in not careful, fairly careful in not overstepping certain redlines. The west of course had signalled, the United States has signalled, that it would not be acceptable for china to do that and the chinese, from what we can tell, have not been actually providing russia with any weapons or military technologies, although they have been helping russia evade sanctions in other ways. So north korea, in this sense, is an interesting source for russia, but i also dont want to overstate whether this is going to happen or not because, for russia, anotherfactor to consider is their relationship with south korea, which has been very close economically and actually has a much more important to russia in the recent decades than the relationship with north korea, so that itself is also a break on how far russia may be willing to go with north korea, but if this information is confirmed, and russia does gain, get inanition from north korea, that would be a major major new development. Would be a maor maor new development. would be a maor maor new development. Would be a maor maor new develoment. , ,. , would be a maor maor new develoment. ,. ,. , development. Stay with us. I want to brina this development. Stay with us. I want to bring this to development. Stay with us. I want to bring this to our development. Stay with us. I want to bring this to our panel. Development. 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I got to think they are the vendor of last choice for russia, the vendor of last choice for russia, so to do this publicly and acknowledge that they have to go asking acknowledge that they have to go asking for manufactured equipment from what asking for manufactured equipment from what is arguably one of the most from what is arguably one of the most backward and least sophisticated nations in the world, again. Sophisticated nations in the world, again. The sophisticated nations in the world, again, the word i would use his desperate again, the word i would use his desperate again, the word i would use his deserate. �. , desperate. And with the White House Sa S the desperate. And with the white house says they will desperate. And with the white house says they will pay desperate. And with the white house says they will pay the desperate. And with the white house says they will pay the price, desperate. And with the white house says they will pay the price, north i says they will pay the price, north korea, if they meet Vladimir Putin in light of all stock, what does pay the price mean, because they are already under pretty heavy sanctions . Already under pretty heavy sanctions . ,. , sanctions . Yeah, that is a good question. Sanctions . Yeah, that is a good question, because sanctions . Yeah, that is a good question, because they sanctions . Yeah, that is a good question, because they were i sanctions . Yeah, that is a good question, because they were talking about question, because they were talking about economic sanctions. That is the sabre rattling. But he ended the day, sabre rattling. But he ended the day, a sabre rattling. But he ended the day, a nation with him is no internet. Day, a nation with him is no internet, what is left to impose on them . Internet, what is left to impose on them . I internet, what is left to impose on them . I imagine they will come up with different things, and i think it would with different things, and i think it would be impacting the relationship more with other nations then maybe have that debbie have somewhat then maybe have that debbie have somewhat of a less frosty relationship, but i cannot imagine. I do not know what else we are imagine. I do not know what else we are going imagine. I do not know what else we are going to do with them, so i agree we are going to do with them, so i agree with we are going to do with them, so i agree with you, i believe that is a hit of agree with you, i believe that is a hit of a agree with you, i believe that is a bit of a hollow threat. Paul waugh, it does fit a bit of a hollow threat. Paul waugh, it does fit a pattern, bit of a hollow threat. Paul waugh, it does fit a pattern, this, bit of a hollow threat. Paul waugh, it does fit a pattern, this, the it does fit a pattern, this, the white house. 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