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BBCNEWS BBC July 3, 2024

Shutdown. So we are keeping a close eye on everything that is happening there. Lets take a look now at what House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy had to sayjust after the bill was passed. Just moments ago on the house floor, we passed by overwhelming numbers the ability to keep government open for the next six weeks. Youve got to understand why we are here. The senate has produced not one Appropriation Bill through the floor. The house . More than 70 . Discretionary spending has now passed. I do not believe our troops need to be punished for us not getting the work done. So i ask congress will stay in session the next two weeks, continue to work to get this done. The bill keeps the governments funding at 2023 levels, but only for now, it also freezes the us� s aid to ukraine. Democrats had originally tried to plug this gap with a 6 Billion Dollar aid package, but that measure was removed from the resolution in order to secure the votes needed to pass it all of this only lasts for 45 days, so the us could be back at the same cliff edge in just over six weeks� time. A shutdown would leave hundreds of thousands of workers furloughed and without pay. Various federal services and programs would also be impacted. This includes the federal workforce of 2. 2 million either working without pay or not working and not being paid at all. A small number would still be paid. The 1. 3 million active duty servicemembers who would continue to work but would not get a paycheck. Access to food would also be at risk for over 41 Million People through the snap Food Assistance programme. And more than 420 National Parks across the country will be off limits to the public starting monday. Live now to max cohen, congressional reporter at the political news website punchbowl. Hejoins us live he joins us live at this hour. Great to see you. First of all, we are looking at the senate right now and it seems like there is some sort of pulled up to passing the bill that came over from the house. To passing the bill that came overfrom the house. Can to passing the bill that came over from the house. Can you tell us what is happening . Democratic senator Michael Bennet of colorado has a hold on this dell. He wants leadership in the senate to commit to bringing up and aid bill for ukraine in the coming weeks. That is a main concern from democrats right now as you mentioned in your opening, there is no ukraine funding in this bill. However, we do not expect this to be a major logjam. We still expect a shutdown to be averted and the senate to vote tonight. Can shutdown to be averted and the senate to vote tonight. Senate to vote tonight. Can you cive us senate to vote tonight. Can you give us an senate to vote tonight. Can you give us an idea, senate to vote tonight. Can you give us an idea, is senate to vote tonight. Can you give us an idea, is there give us an idea, is there enough time for all of this to happen, for the senders to still vote and get this bill over to the president . I still vote and get this bill over to the president . I think there will over to the president . I think there will be. Over to the president . I think there will be. But over to the president . I think there will be. But to over to the president . I think there will be. But to be there will be. But to be honest, even if it does stretch into the early hours of sunday, the main effect of the shutdown would not really be felt unless it really stretched into monday when the federal workforce returns to work. So i think No Matter What the scenario is in terms of hours and minutes, tonight, we are not going to see any major effects, and that is a really big change from where we were at the beginning of this weekend thats all due to Kevin Mccarthy, the speaker changing his attitude early this morning and what he would put on house floor. I5 this morning and what he would put on house floor. Is a this morning and what he would put on house floor. Put on house floor. Is a big chance put on house floor. Is a big change from put on house floor. Is a big change from what put on house floor. Is a big change from what we put on house floor. Is a big change from what we were | change from what we were hearing this morning even, so take is how it went from being a very likely shut down this morning to Kevin Mccarthy pitting to work with democrats. Exactly. And that is something Kevin Mccarthy was very forward about when he was speaking today. He said look there are number of members of my own republican conference i think they cannot work with. Yesterday, House Republicans voted down a very conservative resolution for stopgap funding which included very strict measures at the southern border. A number of House Republicans voted this down because they said i dont want a stopgap funding, No Matter What. Mccarthy saw that vote, major frustrations with that, extreme hardline members of his conference ends at you know white women going to put up a clean resolution which keeps funding consistent at 2023 levels with no borderfunding and he said im going to get democrats to pass it because he really believes deep down a shutdown would harm republicans, harm their political chances in 2024 and he did not want to see that happen. He did not want to see that ha en. ~ he did not want to see that hauen. ~. , happen. Went about his own chances . Happen. Went about his own chances . Because happen. Went about his own chances . Because those happen. Went about his own chances . Because those hardline republicans have said if you work with democrats, we are going to make sure we remove you from your seat. So is Kevin Mccarthy rate about his own fate right now . He mccarthy rate about his own fate right now . Mccarthy rate about his own fate right now . He said to us toda he fate right now . He said to us today he said, fate right now . He said to us today he said, look, fate right now . He said to us today he said, look, bring i fate right now . He said to us today he said, look, bring it| today he said, look, bring it on. If im going to be tried to remove, because im the adult in the room, then so be it, and i think hes feeling pretty confident right now even though, yes, those blake is the neck braces, 15 20 of them in his own conference will be very angry. I think mccarthy realises and i would agree that that that they do not have enough votes to taken out. Many democrats might vote with republicans to save mccarthy, and also, and i still think this remains true, even the line back to january with the speaker, there is no alternative at the moment within the House Republican conference who could get the votes required. A lot of these members dont like mccarthy, but right now, there is an alternative. I but right now, there is an alternative. But right now, there is an alternative. ,. , ~ alternative. I get the speaker ofthe alternative. I get the speaker of the house alternative. I get the speaker of the house pivoting alternative. I get the speaker of the house pivoting to alternative. I get the speaker of the house pivoting to workj of the house pivoting to work with democrats. Several republicans voting against this deal today. What does it tell us about where the republicans of the house are right now . There is a large number of republicans in the house who simply dont want to govern by continuing resolution. There is and i a lot of anger and how mccarthy has handled this. What they wanted in the next 45 days until the next deadline november 17 is try to pass all the Appropriation Bills in washington, all the funding bills, that would be a big lift. Right now they past four. Eight more, and a note some very controversial and then ends and provisions in them. People want a lot of funding cut and mccarthy has a tough job ahead of him because as i mentioned, they will call for him to be removed, and even if he does stay in power, his own moderate members in the coming weeks. � , , moderate members in the coming weeks. � ,. ,. , weeks. Lets come back to what weeks. Lets come back to what we discussed weeks. Lets come back to what we discussed earlier weeks. Lets come back to what we discussed earlier about weeks. Lets come back to what we discussed earlier about aid l we discussed earlier about aid for ukraine because this indeed has been such a big issue for so Many Democrats and for some republicans as well in the senate right now for the white house for president biden. What is the outlook or perspective forgetting some sort of aid for ukraine on the floor in a bail. A confusing path forward at the moment because a lot of this depends on what mccarthy himself wants to do. If there was a bill passed in the house, which could be amended in the senate to have a possible legislative vehicle for increasing age ukraine, but right now there is no guarantee whether mccarthy wants to move on that. Theres also supplemental requests from the white house that were sent down a number of months ago which has increased aid for ukraine. That doesnt seem, i think you meant to be an option at the moment. What the white house has said to the hilt is that in the next 25 days, ukraine is going to need more funding from the united states, and with this spell working to be passed in the coming hours, its not in the coming hours, its not in there. The white house is sounding a very dire alarm over this. So i think by supporters of ukraine, this was a loss today for sure and there is no guarantee that congress can get together and pass a bill which does fund that. What about lot of republicans are saying who support age ukraine said it is not is not it is not as dire as Congress Makes it seem. They can return to this issue in november when there will be a showdown over the shutdown and try to get past it. Congressional reporter at the punch bowl, thank you so much for sharing your insights with us today. For sharing your insights with us toda. , ~ , this shutdown could still happen in 45 days if it does, it would mark the twenty second time in the past 50 years that federal agencies have experienced a funding gap because of a Budget Deadlock in congress. Ten of those have resulted in a total Government Shutdown. Those were all since the 19805 when the government adapted its laws meaning that entire federal agencies could not continue working without a funding agreement. The first Government Shutdown came in 1981 under president ronald reagan. He wanted billions in domestic spending cuts, vetoing a bill that fell short of his goal. In 1995, under president bill clinton, the government shut down for 21 days after he and the gop disagreed on how to balance the budget. Under president 0bama in 2013 ha rdline republicans forced a shutdown to block parts of the Affordable Care act. And in 2018 the longest ever shutdown took place for 34 days, after democrats refused to Fund President trumps border wall. And fast forward to now a deal has been reached after days of deadlock, it has passed the house of representatives, and its now being debated by the senate, but it only plugs the gap for 45 days so we could be here again by mid november Texas Democratic congresswoman Jasmine Crockettjoined Me In Studio earlier to discuss the stop gap spending bill. History has not treated republicans get when they have shut down the government. And i think that the democrats did a really good job of explaining to america that if there is a shut down, it will squarely be at the feet that the republicans. The speaker didnt want that. If he has any chance of trying to maintain control of the house in the midterm or in the next president ial, then he definitely needed to make sure that people continue to get their checks. What about the deal that was accepted on the table . Are you and your fellow democrats satisfied with what came out of this . House democrats feel like this was the best compromise we were going to get, that is why you saw the House Democrats are the ones who actually carried the spell overwhelmingly, the democrats voted for this while republicans were the ones that flaked off. We just wanted a clean cr. The problem is that we didnt know if it was clean. You never know what to trust when the speaker is talking. So to drop 71 pages on ice and say, hey, youve got to vote on this in 15 minutes, also i want the amick and people to recognise that the democrats dontjust sign up on something without at least trying to read it. So our teams worked really hard. We obviously got really creative to give us the space and a time that we needed to make sure that we to make sure that we could review. What do you mean by that . Oh, there were a lot of creativites, number one, the magic minutes. That is where we were Running Out Of Time to debate but we had the leader on the floor, and they get what they call a magic minutes, so that was on the minute left, but it lasted a lot longer than a minute. So while he was on the floor, and i think the majority of the images that you saw, you saw that there where it democrats that were sitting behind him, but we were in a caucus meeting. So the vast majority of us, there were just a couple of democrats sitting behind him, the vast majority of us were sitting downstairs, we were being briefed on what exactly what was all in this bill, what didnt we get that we would have wanted in the cr. Things like that. Basically were going back and forth about what we should do. Whether we should support this or not. 0verwhelmingly, we decided that the best thing to do for the American People was to support the. Even without, as has been pointed out, funding for ukraine, and i know Many Democrats really wanted to see that in this pale, why did you go ahead without that funding . When you compromise that means you dont necessarily always get what you want. We recognise that we are in the minority, but this was definitely a win. What was put on the floor earlier this week that failed would have cut funding by over 30 across the board. That was a nonstarter. So to get the full funding for the next 45 days is absolutely amazing stop there are some manoeuvres that can be done for ukraine that we have not talked about publicly to kind of get us through. But we are going to continue to look towards that, i need people to understand that a ukraine is about i need people to understand that a ukraine is a vote three the united states. Its about for the world. We cannot allow countries such as russia to run it ramshackle and violate International Law and go and do whatever they want to. Went to some of those manoeuvres look like . Would scenes some ukrainian voices on twitter saying the time of the us standing behind ukraine is over. I disagree. I dont know that i am really at liberty to discuss, but i will say that as of today, they should not worry. Give us a few more days, if we dont quite get somewhere, then that would be the time to wake him as of right now, they are not in a bad situation per se. We will definitely come back are you satisfied with whats in this Stopgap Funding Bill . Hard line republicans have said if he votes together with democrats or bricks together with democrats to get a deal through, we are going to make sure that he doesnt continue in his possession. Lets reflect for a second what you just had to say. If you work with democrats. What world are we living in that it is ok to say that the only people i will work with are people that have the same letter in front of my name, especially when the letter in front of the majority of the names in the senate is a different one and a letter in front of the president s name is a different one. You have no option but to work across the aisle, so this idea that they want to continue to say it is our way or the highway, that is immature and that is not legislating. As far as mccarthy, you know, he gave them all the latitude that they wanted. There is no one else that has the votes, period. If there was, then mccarthy wouldnt have been a 15 times before. So you vacate the chair, then what he did because i get they vote to do that, with democrats support Kevin Mccarthy to stay in their position . I cant say about what other democrats would do. I am not in a position to support him. He has not done what he was supposed to do, in my opinion. We would most likely have to have some assurances that he cannot wiggle out of before we as a caucus decided that we would save him yet again. Are we going to be in the same place in 45 days . In my opinion, we are. Are you disappointed by that . Im very disappointed, but can you know what, we live to fight another day today. To an escalating conflict in the balkans now, kosovo is demanding serbia withdraw its troop from their shared border. It comes after tensions between the two countries flared up last weekend when Kosovo Police fought about 30 heavily armed serbs who stormed a village there and barricaded themselves inside a monastery. Three attackers and one Police Officer were killed in the gun battle. Nato says it has authorised Additional Forces to russian president Vladimir Putin is defending his move to illegally annex four ukrainian territories a year ago, claiming russia has become strongerfor it. From moscow our russia editor Steve Rosenberg reports. A year ago, hed proclaimed the annexation of four ukrainian regions. Today, Vladimir Putin said russia had become stronger as a result. Together, we can meet any challenge. Together, they streamed towards red square, a highly organised show of support for the annexation that only two countries have recognized syria and north korea. It all belongs to us now, yelina says. We restored part of our histori

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