And to bring inflation down. Only the conservatives have the resolution to resist easy answers, avoid empty pledges and make the right decisions for the long term. Whether its resisting inflation busting pay demands in the Public Sector or tackling the loonies who stop hard Working Families get to work, orfacing down the stop hard Working Families get to work, or facing down the faint hearts who say we shouldnt try to control our borders or taking on the enemies of promise in education, only the conservatives are up for the fight. We are the party that fought in the past to bring positive change. That fought to clear slums over a century ago. That fought to lay the foundations of the Welfare State 90 years ago, that for fascism, communism and tyranny through the 20th century. Which fought the culture of bureaucratic slot that held us back in the 70s. The party that fought for home ownership, no attacks on personal freedom that fought for home ownership, no attacks on personalfreedom in that fought for home ownership, no attacks on personal freedom in the 805. That fought to let the world to the dangers of climate change. And fought to uphold democracy in ukraine. That fought to make opportunity more equal in the last decade for gay people, poor children, tho5e decade for gay people, poor children, those living with disability and for those from every background who believe in hard work and home truth5. And we will fight at the next election for a kingdom more united, more confident and more ambitious. We will fight together for the country we love thank you. That was michael gove, the levelling up that was michael gove, the levelling up and housing secretary, giving a speech there at the Tory Party 5peech there at the tory party conference. A 5peech 5peech there at the tory party conference. A speech that focused a lot on the next election and the policies of labour and the liberal democrats. Lets cross live to our Political Correspondent nick eardley. I know you are listening to that 5peech eardley. I know you are listening to that speech as well. That speech as well. Look, michael gove is always that speech as well. Look, michael gove is always quite that speech as well. Look, michael gove is always quite popular that speech as well. Look, michael gove is always quite popular i that speech as well. Look, michael| gove is always quite popular i think at these conferences because of his rhetorical clashes. He is quite good at taking that political argument to labour. Weve seen a lot of that over the course of the morning and yesterday as well. It feels like this is a Party Getting very ready to try and set out those Dividing Line5 to try and set out those Dividing Lines with labour before the next general election. We were chatting earlier about hs2 general election. We were chatting earlier about h52 and the continued uncertainty over what exactly the government has decided. We think the birmingham to Manchester Leg is being scrapped, we are not totally sure what is going to replace it and where that money is going to go. We had from George Osborne criticising that decision, if you conservatives who are pro hs2 but i want to bring in someone from the other side of the argument, philip davies, the mp for shipley. Are you pleased the Prime Minister is about to can the birmingham to Manchester Leg . I hope so. We will wait birmingham to Manchester Leg . I hope so. We will wait for birmingham to Manchester Leg . I hope so. We will wait for an birmingham to Manchester Leg . I hope so. We will wait for an informal so. We will wait for an informal announcement but i hope so. The fact of the announcement but i hope so. The fact of the matter is that hsz was never designed of the matter is that hsz was never designed to benefit the north. I have designed to benefit the north. I have been in Parliament Long enough to know have been in Parliament Long enough to know when it was first envisaged and there to know when it was first envisaged and there has been a lot of rewriting and there has been a lot of rewriting of history. The purpose of h52 when rewriting of history. The purpose of h52 when lord adonis proposed it was hsz when lord adonis proposed it was to act hsz when lord adonis proposed it was to act as hsz when lord adonis proposed it was to act as a hsz when lord adonis proposed it was to act as a high speed rail between Heathrow To Act as a high speed rail between heathrow and leeds and manchester to stop short haul flights so you wouldnt stop short haul flights so you wouldnt need to expand Heathrow Airport wouldnt need to expand Heathrow Airport it wouldnt need to expand Heathrow Airport. It was never intended to benefit airport. It was never intended to benefit the north. The bit that works benefit the north. The bit that works in benefit the north. The bit that works in terms of Transport Infrastructure is north to south. In yorkshire infrastructure is north to south. In yorkshire the easiest bit is getting to london yorkshire the easiest bit is getting to london. The bit that doesnt work is getting to london. The bit that doesnt work is getting across the north. It takes is getting across the north. It takes me is getting across the north. It takes me longer to get from bradford to liverpool than bradford to london to liverpool than bradford to london. What we need is infrastructure across the north and the Fact Infrastructure across the north and the fact is, infrastructure across the north and the fact is, it is 180 billion now in terms the fact is, it is 180 billion now in terms of the fact is, it is 180 billion now in terms of cost. Everyone knows its a in terms of cost. Everyone knows its a white in terms of cost. Everyone knows its a white elephant. If you were to offer its a white elephant. If you were to offer 180 billion divided between birmingham, manchester, liverpool and leeds, birmingham, manchester, liverpool and leeds, what is the chances of them and leeds, what is the chances of them saying, we dont need anything up them saying, we dont need anything up here, them saying, we dont need anything up here, everything is fine. So what we are up here, everything is fine. So what we are going to do is support for that money to build a train line to london that money to build a train line to london. Everybody in the north knows that what london. Everybody in the north knows that what we need is better infrastructure across the north not north infrastructure across the north not north to infrastructure across the north not north to south. You infrastructure across the north not north to south. North to south. You are an mp in west yorkshire, north to south. You are an mp in west yorkshire, what north to south. You are an mp in west yorkshire, what do north to south. You are an mp in west yorkshire, what do you north to south. You are an mp in west yorkshire, what do you sayj north to south. You are an mp in i west yorkshire, what do you say to people like andy street, the mayor of the west midlands, who says this is about a idea, it will be about missing out on an opportunity. Its missing out on an opportunity. Its now 180 billion, its getting to. I dont now 180 billion, its getting to. I dont believe andy street when he was in dont believe andy street when he was in business carried on with things was in business carried on with things that cost five or six times more things that cost five or six times more it things that cost five or six times more. It doesnt matter what price it reaches, more. It doesnt matter what price it reaches, we should still carry on and purchase it . Its a ludicrous notion and purchase it . Its a ludicrous notion that and purchase it . Its a ludicrous notion that you build something irrespective of cost. Notion that you build something irrespective of cost. Where do you want the Money Irrespective of cost. Where do you want the money to irrespective of cost. Where do you want the money to go . Irrespective of cost. Where do you want the money to go . If irrespective of cost. Where do you want the money to go . If this irrespective of cost. Where do you want the money to go . If this is l want the money to go . If this is canned by the Prime Minister, do you want him to take all the cash that would have gone on birmingham to manchester and spent it on east to west, connecting the north . I want it sent west, connecting the north . I want it spent across west, connecting the north . I want it spent across the west, connecting the north . I want it spent across the north. West, connecting the north . I want it spent across the north. That west, connecting the north . I want it spent across the north. That will| it spent across the north. That will revolutionise the northern economy. I revolutionise the northern economy. I want revolutionise the northern economy. I want better roads, more buses, thats i want better roads, more buses, thats what i want better roads, more buses, thats what matters to peoples lives thats what matters to peoples lives. About 2 of people travel by rail and lives. About 2 of people travel by rail and yet lives. About 2 of people travel by rail and yet is getting a vast amount rail and yet is getting a vast amount of funding. What we want is to improve amount of funding. What we want is to improve the Transport Infrastructure across the piece, roads, infrastructure across the piece, roads, buses and rail notjust spend it on this roads, buses and rail notjust spend it on this white elephant. This roads, buses and rail not ust spend it on this white elephant. It on this white elephant. This is one of the it on this white elephant. This is one of the arguments it on this white elephant. This is one of the arguments some it on this white elephant. This is one of the arguments some are | it on this white elephant. This is one of the arguments some are having about the car policy that the Prime Minister has been talking about. The argument he makes is most people outside the big cities, particularly in england, used cars. The Counter Argument from some people particularly environment campaigners, is they only use cars because the infrastructure is not therefore public transport. I dont aet therefore public transport. I dont net that. Therefore public transport. I dont get that. Public therefore public transport. I dont get that. Public transport therefore public transport. I dont get that. Public transport will get that. Public transport will never get that. Public transport will never be get that. Public transport will never be able to replicate the car. Its never be able to replicate the car. Its more never be able to replicate the car. Its more convenient but yes, we do need its more convenient but yes, we do need to its more convenient but yes, we do need to improve buses, we do need to improve, need to improve buses, we do need to improve, nobody is saying we shouldnt improve, nobody is saying we shouldnt improve those things but the idea shouldnt improve those things but the idea we can get everyone off the rose is the idea we can get everyone off the rose is a the idea we can get everyone off the rose is a nonsense. The car will always rose is a nonsense. The car will always be rose is a nonsense. The car will always be the most popular mode of transport always be the most popular mode of transport. Let always be the most popular mode of transort. ,~ always be the most popular mode of transort. ,. , transport. Let me ask you about the broader mood transport. Let me ask you about the broader mood at transport. Let me ask you about the broader mood at this transport. Let me ask you about the broader mood at this conference. I transport. Let me ask you about the i broader mood at this conference. The fact that hs2 has dominated a lot of the coverage. A lot of Different Things are discussed at fringes, but do you think rishi sunak is capturing the public imagination or has he missed the boat when it comes to seizing the Political Initiative . I think the Prime Minister has had his weetabix and the public like it. He is his weetabix and the public like it. He is the his weetabix and the public like it. He is the Prime Minister prepared to say the he is the Prime Minister prepared to say the emperor has no clothes. Everybody say the emperor has no clothes. Everybody knew the timetable for net zero was everybody knew the timetable for net zero was ridiculous. He was prepared to say zero was ridiculous. He was prepared to say it zero was ridiculous. He was prepared to say it we zero was ridiculous. He was prepared to say it. We have had a boost in the polls to say it. We have had a boost in the polls because the public welcome that announcement. He the polls because the public welcome that announcement. The polls because the public welcome that announcement. He has moved fact the timetable that announcement. He has moved fact the timetable for that announcement. He has moved fact the timetable for some that announcement. He has moved fact the timetable for some of that announcement. He has moved fact the timetable for some of these the timetable for some of these announcements. The the timetable for some of these announcements. The timetable for some of these announcements. The timetable for nettina announcements. The timetable for caettin rid announcements. The timetable for getting rid of announcements. The timetable for getting rid of diesel announcements. The timetable for getting rid of diesel and announcements. The timetable for getting rid of diesel and petrol getting rid of diesel and petrol cars. Getting rid of diesel and petrol cars. He getting rid of diesel and petrol cars, he was right. He is about to do, cars, he was right. He is about to do. I cars, he was right. He is about to do, i hope. Cars, he was right. He is about to do, i hope, the same thing on hsz. People do, i hope, the same thing on hsz. People know its a white elephant, unaffordable, the cost is ridiculous and hes unaffordable, the cost is ridiculous and hes about to say the emperor has no and hes about to say the emperor has no clothes and the public welcome has no clothes and the public welcome this new Prime Minister who is saving welcome this new Prime Minister who is saying these things and the polls are reflecting that. Are reflecting that. Weve had a coule of are reflecting that. Weve had a couple of speeches are reflecting that. Weve had a couple of speeches from are reflecting that. Weve had a l couple of speeches from Michelle Donnellan and from others read the issue of trans rights versus womens rights came up quite a lot. Some dread that debate becoming a big part of our politics because it is divisive, they call it the culture wars. What you think . Will that be a big debate at the next election . I5 big debate at the next election . Is it a sensible debate at the heart of british politics . Taste it a sensible debate at the heart of british politics . It a sensible debate at the heart of british politics . We had to have the debate. British politics . We had to have the debate the british politics . We had to have the debate. The m british politics . We had to have the debate. The id that british politics . We had to have the debate. The id that a british politics . We had to have the debate. The id that a man british politics . We had to have the debate. The id that a man can british politics . We had to have the debate. The id that a man can selfl debate. The id that a man can Self Identify debate. The id that a man can Self Identify as debate. The id that a man can Self Identify as a woman and be put in a womens identify as a woman and be put in a womens prison, the idea that anyone thinks womens prison, the idea that anyone thinks that womens prison, the idea that anyone thinks that is womens prison, the idea that anyone thinks that is sensible is a nonsense. Unfortunately it is a debate nonsense. Unfortunately it is a debate. Again, the Conservative Party debate. Again, the Conservative Party are debate. Again, the Conservative Party are on the common sense where the vast party are on the common sense where the vast majority of the public are. Do you the vast majority of the public are. Do you think rishi sunak is weaponised in that . He do you think rishi sunak is weaponised in that . Do you think rishi sunak is wea onised in that . , ,. , ~ weaponised in that . He is speaking common sense. Weaponised in that . He is speaking common sense. If weaponised in that . He is speaking common sense. If other weaponised in that . He is speaking common sense. If other people weaponised in that . He is speaking l common sense. If other people want to make common sense. If other people want to make an common sense. If other people want to make an issue of that, thats up to make an issue of that, thats up to then to make an issue of that, thats up to then but to make an issue of that, thats up to then but what rishi sunak is stating to then but what rishi sunak is stating the obvious that most in the country stating the obvious that most in the country thing. If his opponents say he is country thing. If his opponents say he is talking rubbish, good luck to them he is talking rubbish, good luck to them but he is talking rubbish, good luck to them but we are on the side of the mainstream majority. Mainstream maority. Thank you. There is mainstream majority. Thank you. There is definitely mainstream majority. Thank you. There is definitely a ma