Because you cannot do thejob for eight people, you have 96 of your entire conference, but eight members can partner with your whole other side. How do you govern . As of now, theres no clear candidate to replace him. Republicans are now going home for the week, effectively shutting down the house. They say they may have a candidate by next tuesday with a possible vote next wednesday, but that all remains very fluid. It was all brought on by congressman matt gaetz of florida. He launched the vote to oust the speaker. After some debate, lawmakers voted 216 to 210 to remove mccarthy from the leadership position. Gaetz and seven other republicans joined all 208 democrats present in the room. One of the eight members of the Republican Party who voted to oust mccarthy is congressman ken buck, of colorado. Earlier i spoke with him about his decision to remove mccarthy as speaker, and What Happens Next. Can you tell us more about what went into your decision to oust Kevin Mccarthy. Went into your decision to oust Kevin Mccarthy. Maor problem we had is that h Kevin Mccarthy. Maor problem we had is that we Kevin Mccarthy. Major problem we had is that we have Kevin Mccarthy. Major problem we had is that we have to Kevin Mccarthy. Major problem we had is that we have to pass| we had is that we have to pass 12 Appropriations Bills. Up until last week, we passed one appropriations bill. The promise from the speaker when it became speaker was that we would pass 12 by september 30 and negotiate with the centre and negotiate with the centre and have a package ready for the president. That didnt happen and i think many were frustrated over that. Eight people stood up and voted against Speaker Mccarthy and i think there were others that had similar feelings and think there were others that had similarfeelings and didnt feel they needed to do it because the vote was already 216 210. , because the vote was already 216 210 because the vote was already 216 210. ,. ,. ,. , 216 210. You are one of those eiaht. 216 210. You are one of those eight kevin 216 210. You are one of those eight. Kevin mccarthy 216 210. You are one of those eight. Kevin mccarthy was eight. Kevin mccarthy was speaking a short while ago and he said the eight members voting against him were not conservative and enable democrats to seize the opportunity to regain power in the house. What is your reaction to that . I the house. What is your reaction to that . The house. What is your reaction to that . I will put my conservative reaction to that . I will put my conservative record reaction to that . I will put my conservative record of reaction to that . I will put my conservative record of voting | conservative record of voting up conservative record of voting up against anybody, particularly someone from california like Speaker Mccarthy or other critics who are from new york. I believe we are from new york. I believe we are spending too much money in the country. I think it is an existential threat to the country and i believe we need to at this point in time make sure we are doing the right thing and spending responsibly and that is why i voted the way i did. ,. , and that is why i voted the way idid. ,. ,. , i did. This leaves the house paralysed i did. This leaves the house paralysed and i did. This leaves the house paralysed and the i did. This leaves the house | paralysed and the temporary speaker has proposed next tuesday for people to come together and decide on a candidate. Do you think that is fast enough . Fast enough . Well, these two weeks we fast enough . Well, these two weeks we were fast enough . Well, these two weeks we were supposed fast enough . Well, these two weeks we were supposed to l fast enough . Well, these two l weeks we were supposed to be backin weeks we were supposed to be back in our districts working. Had the Appropriations Bills come to the house and orderly Fashion Injune and july we would have been in our District Meeting with constituents explaining what is going on in dc and listening to concerns. The fact we are not working on Appropriations Bills this week or next week is nothing new. It was planned that way. I dont think we are paralysed. I think were going through an process that will end in a better spending plan for the United States. �. , states. But funding for the government states. But funding for the government will states. But funding for the government will end states. But funding for the government will end again | states. But funding for the l government will end again in states. But funding for the government will end again in a months time that is enough time to come to an agreement . In all to come to an agreement . In 42 da s to come to an agreement . In 42 days time, to come to an agreement . In 42 days time, the to come to an agreement . In 42 days time, the money to come to an agreement . In 42 days time, the money will to come to an agreement . In 42 days time, the money will run i days time, the money will run out again. We will have another continuing resolution for a period of time until we can meet with the senate, conference of the senate, what we need to do with the 12 bills and send them to the president. Congresswoman, it took 15 rounds to elect a speaker last time around, do you think it will take the that this time around . , ,. ,. , around . Congresswoman. I dont, around . Congresswoman. I dont. Over around . Congresswoman. I dont, over the around . Congresswoman. I dont, over the weekend around . Congresswoman. I dont, over the weekend we i around . Congresswoman. I. Dont, over the weekend we had many conversations among ourselves and i think we will have a candidate and i believe the party will get behind the candidate. Steve scalise is the next candidate up and we will stay if he is interested, he has had some health issues, but i think he is interested and i think many will come to support steve scalise. D0 think many will come to support steve scalise. Steve scalise. Do you think he will have the steve scalise. Do you think he will have the votes steve scalise. Do you think he will have the votes to steve scalise. Do you think he will have the votes to become j will have the votes to become speaker . I will have the votes to become seaker . , � ~. , will have the votes to become seaker . ~. , , speaker . I dont know because conversations speaker . I dont know because conversations had speaker . I dont know because conversations had not speaker . 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It is really a vote for chaos, there were really a vote for chaos, there were so really a vote for chaos, there were so many important issues were so many important issues we have were so many important issues we have to were so many important issues we have to decide on right now. Appropriations bill, farmville, defence appropriations bill, farmville, defence bill, we have a broken and all defence bill, we have a broken and all of defence bill, we have a broken and all of this will go on hold and all of this will go on hold and it and all of this will go on hold and it is and all of this will go on hold and it is a and all of this will go on hold and it is a bad day for america but a and it is a bad day for america but a good and it is a bad day for america but a good day for a russian or chinese but a good day for a russian or Chinese Communist and you are probably. 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What matt gaetz did was bring an important issue to the floor. The speaker did not have the support and we will move forward and we move forward in a way, in my opinion, that will make the country stronger and those that believe in freedom around the world stronger. There are republicans who are unhappy with the deal that the Kevin Mccarthy cup with democrats this weekend get the government open part. But there is still a Democratic Control Centre and white house so will the next big could do anything different to keep that job . Elf} anything different to keep that ob . ,, anything different to keep that ob . ,. , job . 90 republicans voted auainst job . 90 republicans voted against that job . 90 republicans voted against that bill job . 90 republicans voted against that bill this job . 90 republicans voted against that bill this weekend. Notjust a few republicans who were upset with that and, yes, i believe the next speaker can pass the Appropriations Bills, negotiate with the senate and deliver something to the white house that will be signed and stronger than where we are right now. Stronger than where we are right now stronger than where we are riaht now. ,. , i. , right now. You throw your hat in the ring right now. You throw your hat in the ring to right now. You throw your hat in the ring to be right now. You throw your hat in the ring to be speaker . | in the ring to be speaker . Would you in the ring to be speaker . Would you. No, in the ring to be speaker . Would you. No, i will not i will not even vote for myself a speaker so i doubt i would get any votes in my name is put in. I do believe there are a number of good people, people who are popular and have worked very hard around the country have met the congressmen in their districts and those folks will run for speaker and im sure we will have a very qualified speaker in the near future. Will have a very qualified speaker in the nearfuture. A final question. Speaker in the near future. A final question. Final question. Are you confident final question. Are you confident that final question. Are you confident that next final question. Are you confident that next tuesday that you and your colleagues can come together on one candidate will get enough votes to become speaker . I candidate will get enough votes to become speaker . Candidate will get enough votes to become speaker . I dont know if it will be to become speaker . I dont know if it will be next to become speaker . I dont know if it will be next tuesday to become speaker . I dont know if it will be next tuesday but if it will be next tuesday but im confident that by the end of wednesday we will have a speaker. We will start working on Appropriations Bills, yes. Congressmen ken buck, thank you forjoining us on bbc news. The Biden Administration has weighed in on tuesdays events on capitol hill. After the vote, President Joe Biden said in a statement i spoke with democratic representative annie kuster for her take on the democrats role in all of this. Are you surprised at what we saw transpire today . I was not surprised because we have seen it coming for quite some time now. Really, what this was about was that Kevin Mccarthy had a choice from the very beginning. He only had a 5 vote margin and ever since the beginning of the session when it took 15 votes for him to win the Speakership Back last january, he has steadily eroded his position by caving into an extreme right wing element of his party. Now what we saw is they have turned on him. When they turned on him, he could not maintain his majority. Congresswoman, this leaves the house of representatives paralysed, as you know. Democrats did have some options here and could have decided not to vote for example to keep Kevin Mccarthy in his position as speaker. Was this the right decision for democrats . Absolutely because Kevin Mccarthy refused to negotiate. He refused to come to democrats. He absolutely had that option. We have been talking about it for quite some time now. He had plenty of opportunity to come to us and propose what we would consider to be a Power Sharing Agreement. I think this is something that happens frequently in the british parliament. It is not as common here in the United States but certainly in State Legislatures across the country they have done this. If i canjustjump in there. A bipartisan Power Sharing Agreement in such a divided house, do you really think that is possible . Absolutely. I dont think theres any reason why so much of our legislation is broadly conceived, its bipartisan, if you look at Something Like aid to ukraine right now, strong bipartisan majority, every single democrat, over half of the Republican Caucus supporting it in the house, and equally strong bipartisan majority in the senate. President biden has asked for this aid, Kevin Mccarthy refused to bring it to the floor of the house for a vote and we could easily take that vote. Another example is our Farm Bill Set to expire and we need to reauthorise ourfarm bill, broad bipartisan support. Right, so congresswoman. You are saying there are examples of bipartisan, of the two parties working together but, at the moment, funding is going to run out once again in just about a months time and there is no speaker. What happens . There will be another speaker. We go back into session in the morning and the speaker will be chosen. Im not concerned there will not be a speaker. Obviously there is urgency to it but as you sawjust over the weekend, we came together to make sure that we did not shut down the government and we will continue to do that. That is absolutely a possibility and those conversations may be happening as we speak with a much more reasonable speaker who is willing to work with both sides of the aisle to get the job of the American People done. Congresswoman, the last vote took 15 rounds, this could take time. Are democrats partly responsible for not allowing the stability to get the work of Congress Done . This is 100 at the shoes of Kevin Mccarthy. They have had plenty of opportunity to work across the aisle. We are absolutely ready to do that. He refused. This is a civil war within the Republican Party. They need to come to their senses and we can move the country forward. Congresswoman, really interesting conversation. Thank you forjoining us on bbc news. Good to be with you, thank you. Ajudge in new york has issued a gag order against former president donald trump. Its the latest development from his fraud trial, which opened this week in new york. The trial poses major a threat to trumps business empire. At stake is 250 million in potential fines, a permanent ban against trump and his sons from running businesses in new york, and a 5 year commercial Real Estate Ban Against Trump and the trump 0rganization. The bbc� s nada tawfik reports from outside the courthouse. Donald trump spent the full day again here in new york in court as he arrived he attacked the Attorney General once more saying the entire case was a sham. Inside, he conferred with attorneys and was engaged as the prosecution and defence questioned donald bender, a former accountant who worked for the Trump 0rganisation for many years. Mr bender said it was up to the Company Officials to certify the numbers they were giving was accurate. There was a number of objections that the judge overruled from the defence side. For the most part, it was very stock standard question and answering. The real drama came outside of the courtroom when donald trump took to social media to attack the judges clerk. Thejudge then issued a gag order on the former president telling him he can no longer make personal comments about his staff, and barring anyone else from doing so. During one of the breaks i did get a chance to throw a question to donald trump. Take a listen. Mr trump, will you be testifying . Yes, i will. In the appropriate time i will be. I think it is going very well. Everybody was given Financial Statements and they are extremely strong. The evidence are much more valuable. It cannot be fraud when you have told institutions to do their own work. This case is a fraud and it is a scam. Thank you very much. Donald trump still has time to change his mind. Legal experts say that taking the stan