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BBCNEWS The July 2, 2024

Palestinians are now killed every day . The hamas run Ministry Of Health in gaza publishes a detailed list of the more than 7000 people it says have been killed since israels bombardment began, but tonight, the Us Government says that while a signifcant number of people have died, it still doesnt trust the figures from hamas. Also on the programme, well have the latest from lewiston, maine, after a gunman opened fire at a Bowling Alley and a restaurant, killing at least 18 people and sparking a Massive Police manhunt. Police say the ao year old suspect is still armed and dangerous. And Artificial Intelligence a saviour or a threat . The uks Prime Minister, rishi sunak, outlines the risks and the possible rewards of the next generation of smart software. To talk about all this, tonight i will be joined from washington by the former Republican Party strategist rina shah and from london by peter walker, deputy Political Editor for the guardian. The situation in gaza is growing more desperate by the hour. The uns humanitarian aid chief has said that aid is Barely Trickling In to gaza and that 20 days on, the bombardments of gaza are still getting worse. Humanitarian supplies are critically low, and the hamas controlled Health Ministry has published with details of what it says are the more than 7000 people who have been killed in israeli strikes, almost 3000 of them children. More than 11100 people were killed in israel during hamas� attack on october the 7th, including women and children. These are the latest pictures showing the destruction in the gaza strip. As you can see, entire blocks of buildings have been destroyed. And these Satellite Images from maxar show the area before october the 7th. And this is after. You can see the extent of the damage. The Israeli Military says its Ground Forces carried out a significant incursion in gaza to attack hamas positions overnight. It released this Video Showing Tanks and armoured bulldozers crossing the perimeter fence. Israels Prime Minister netanyahu says his aim is to destroy hamas. An Israeli Defense force spokesman told the bbc that soldiers carried out the tactical raid towards central gaza to prepare the battlefield for future operations. We begin with this report from our international editorjeremy bowen. For hours, we could hear the explosions around ten kilometres away in israel. It was the biggest israeli raid into the gaza strip so far in this war. The army released this video, it said of the battlefield being prepared, presumably for the invasion of gaza that the government says is coming. The soldiers pulled back into israel sometime before dawn. In khan younis in southern gaza, more raids and death in a place where israel told palestinians to go to be safe. We want to live beautiful lives, said this girl, not have rockets hitting our heads. The building fell on our heads. The un says nowhere is safe in gaza and the siege violates the laws of war. Israel has killed thousands of palestinian civilians. Just a few miles away in israel, Sally Partrush lives in one of the Communities Hamas attacked. She has photos of some of the Friends Hamas killed. This is me, this is one of my friends, gil, and he was murdered. Im all the time thinking what they did to them, how they suffered. With so much loss, whole families, she is furious that israels response has been questioned. This time we realise that, after that, its us or them. If it is, as you say, us or them, is it ok to ignore International Humanitarian law . Im tired of it, of what the law, the International Law said. The International Law didnt prevent these murders, these brutal murders. Where was the world . People was happy about it, people celebrated. Along the gaza border, civilian volunteers are bringing home comforts to the troops. The soldiers� commanders say theyre ready and that its a waiting game until the War Cabinet Orders them into gaza. The men i spoke to are certain that israels actions since hamas attacked were legal, morallyjustified and vital for the security of their families. Most of the soldiers here were reservists, called out of civilian life. You said youre a social worker. Yes. You must deal with people with trauma. How long will it take israelis to process this national trauma, if ever . Generations. I think something is broken here. We want to protect. We dont want to fight. We dont want to kill. But if we need to do it, so here we are, here we are. If youre truly a western person, if you believe in human rights and freedom, then its very obvious that you should side with israel. I mean, do you want to side with people that are like you . We are the same. We have the same values of freedom, of free speech, women rights, lgbtq rights. Ahead is complex urban warfare. When might depend on the Success Orfailure of talks to free the hostages. Israelis get behind their soldiers, especially at times like this. Almost everybody has been in the military or has a son or a daughter in uniform. Its a different thing when it comes to politicians. Taking Israel To War is a new experience for the Prime Minister. Benjamin netanyahus tough talk he said hamas were Dead Men Walking will not impress his Many Political enemies. Israelis, though, are united in their fight against hamas, but the country faces big challenges and their leader is under crushing pressure. Jeremy bowen, bbc news, in southern israel. Israels military has raised the number of people confirmed to be held hostage in gaza to 224, saying that number could rise further. So far, four hostages have been released by hamas, which is designated a Terror Organisation by the uk and many other countries, but a spokesman for the armed wing of hamas says as many as 50 of the hostages have been killed in israeli air strikes. A hamas spokesman has told the bbc that the groups attack was aimed to be a military operation, denying it was intended to target civilians. He was talking to our middle east correspondent hugo bachega. There was no command, no command to kill any civilians. You say this was a military operation, but the result of it was that hundreds of civilians were killed. Because the area is very wide and there are many people there and there was clashes and confrontations. Its not confrontation. You invaded houses. I dont have the details of what happened inside, but i can tell you that we didnt have any intention or decision to kill the civilians. How do you justify killing people as they sleep, families . How do you justify killing hundreds of people . I want to stop this interview. Well, its usually at this point in the programme that i introduced two of our panelists but due to technical issues we only have one of them rina a former republican strategist leigh from washington dc, soon we would hopefully have peter walker, the deputy Political Editor for the guardian. Seica michael, one thing we been talking about in the programme in the last hour are the flurry of nickel back to meetings taking place in the last 2a hours or so. You see an eu summit with some loose wording on a meeting of the un general assembly, and a week of frenzied visits by a hold host of leaders. The question i want to start with, do you think the diplomacy is actually making any difference . I diplomacy is actually making any difference . ~ diplomacy is actually making any difference . Diplomacy is actually making any difference . ~ ,. ,~. ,. , difference . I think speaking for a ureat difference . I think speaking for a great number difference . I think speaking for a great number of difference . I think speaking for a great number of americans difference . I think speaking for a great number of americans who l difference . I think speaking for a i great number of americans who feel that diplomacy has not helped us in this area the United States has a particularly tough apex right now, almost at the crossroads of where to go as a country. Yet we have leaders who are continuing to use what i consider a bit of an old playbook. President joe biden has a very significant Foreign Policy background, he was interested to do right by the american people, and their Many Americans today who feel their Many Americans today who feel the actions he has taken after october seven have been sound and of 0ctober seven have been sound and of right mind, and they really showed america to be what is considered everybody� s friend, neighbour, ally. In a situation like this, where we have hamas, where we talk about is an actual terrorist organisation, not representing the palestinian people, to see demonstrations across the United States in colleges, of expenses, large cities, where we see people saying they will not side with the United States in back in israel. Its almost like the unisys is into mine, we support our president in prison for the strong leadership, in a very, very precarious moments in the aftermath of what is been called many times over israels 9 11, thats fine, but what comes after that, and their people today who i believe are rightly questioning americas role in the world and how we move forward not just in the world and how we move forward notjust in this conflict but future wars. , ,. , wars. Interesting perspective from ou in wars. Interesting perspective from you in united wars. Interesting perspective from you in United States, wars. Interesting perspective from you in United States, what wars. Interesting perspective from you in United States, what im you in United States, what im pleased to say peter is now in that box next to you, im glad you managed to get your resume working, let me ask you the same question i asked rina, do you think diplomacy is making a difference . I asked rina, do you think diplomacy is making a difference . Is making a difference . I think the short and unsatisfactory is making a difference . I think the short and unsatisfactory answer. Is making a difference . I think the short and unsatisfactory answer is| short and unsatisfactory answer is it is too short and unsatisfactory answer is it is too early to tell. The rhetoric it is too early to tell. The rhetoric in the uk, certainly the way the rhetoric in the uk, certainly the way the uk Prime Minister dealt with this, has way the uk Prime Minister dealt with this, has been slightly similar to joe bidens approach, which is the initial joe bidens approach, which is the initial response to the massacre on october initial response to the massacre on october seven, is to say that we are 0ctober seven, is to say that we are with israel 0ctober seven, is to say that we are with israel all the way and back you in whatever with israel all the way and back you in whatever you do. But, there is almost in whatever you do. But, there is almost this in whatever you do. But, there is almost this diplomatic bank check, but as almost this diplomatic bank check, but as time almost this diplomatic bank check, but as time has gone on the languages change a bit. And the understanding that as time goes on and we understanding that as time goes on and we move slightly from the horrific and we move slightly from the horrific scenes and news from the massacre. Horrific scenes and news from the massacre, to the very grim scenes about massacre, to the very grim scenes about what massacre, to the very grim scenes about what is going on in gaza now, there about what is going on in gaza now, there is about what is going on in gaza now, there is a about what is going on in gaza now, there is a sense that the uk government in whatever limited ways it can, government in whatever limited ways it can, as government in whatever limited ways it can, as well as the message it is supporting, it can, as well as the message it is supporting, msa, International Law must supporting, msa, International Law must be supporting, msa, International Law must be abided by. The language so far has must be abided by. The language so far has been relatively mild but you can tell far has been relatively mild but you can tell that when you talk to politicians in the uk, they are aware politicians in the uk, they are aware that they cannot give this israet aware that they cannot give this israet is aware that they cannot give this israet is a aware that they cannot give this israel is a complete blank check, but is israel is a complete blank check, but is at israel is a complete blank check, but is at the same time restraint may not but is at the same time restraint may not do but is at the same time restraint may not do any good. So its a long game, may not do any good. So its a long game, something that is been going on for game, something that is been going on for decades, but in the aftermath of 0ctuber on for decades, but in the aftermath of october seven, theres a sense of having of october seven, theres a sense of having to of october seven, theres a sense of having to support israel but trying to find having to support israel but trying to find a having to support israel but trying to find a balance. Would it work . The uk to find a balance. Would it work . The uk is to find a balance. Would it work . The uk is a to find a balance. Would it work . The uk is a relatively small partner in this, the uk is a relatively small partner in this, and the uk is a relatively small partner in this, and i the uk is a relatively small partner in this, and i think it is very much going in this, and i think it is very much going to in this, and i think it is very much going to try in this, and i think it is very much going to try and follow the lead of what the going to try and follow the lead of what the us and the un does, and in part that what the us and the un does, and in part that is what the us and the un does, and in part that is what uks role is to stay part that is what uks role is to sta. � ,. ,. ,. , stay. Lets not forget the role that ke arab stay. Lets not forget the role that key arab nations stay. Lets not forget the role that key arab Nations Holding stay. Lets not forget the role that key arab Nations Holding all stay. Lets not forget the role that key arab Nations Holding all of stay. Lets not forget the role that| key arab Nations Holding all of this including countries like egypt and jordan, we will be back with you peter and it rina, but for the moment, thanks. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. Lets look at some other stories making news. Constance marten and her partner mark gordon have pleaded not guilty to charges over the death of their two month old baby. Victorias body was discovered on the first of march in a brighton shed after a weeks long Police Search for the family. Ms marten and mr gordon appeared at the old bailey on thursday and pleaded not guilty to manslaughter. The government could face a judicial review after excluding some Health Workers from a one off bonus. It was part of a pay deal that recognised the pressure of the covid pandemic on staff, but thousands of outsourced staff such as Community Nurses will not receive it. The Department Of Health says its looking into the issue. The jury in the new york fraud trial of Sam Bankman Fried was sent home after the founder of the now bankrupt Cryptocurrency Exchange ftx took the stand to testify, but did not speak. He was instead asked to testify in private, with the judge deciding which parts of his testimony are admissible before the jury returns on friday. Mr bankman fried is accused of stealing billions from ftx customers. Youre live with bbc news. Now lets turn to another big story in the us. A teenage boy and his father are among the 18 victims of a Mass Shooting in the city of lewiston, in the state of maine, on the east coast. A 53 year old woman and another man are also confirmed to be among those killed. Police say, the gunman targeted multiple locations including a Bowling Alley and is still at large. A massive manhunt is under way, across the state for a ao year old Us Army Reservist, whos believed to be suffering from Mental Health issues. Residents have been warned to stay at home. 0ur correspondent John Sudworth has more first, it was a Bowling Alley, then a bar. Around seven oclock on a wednesday night, mobile phone footage shows people fleeing in panic as, once again, ordinary, Everyday America is torn apart by another Mass Shooting. Just a normal night of bowli

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