Out its new definition of extremism but what will it mean in practice . Well hear from the former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation. And. Are you ready for this. The all knowing, all reasoning robot that engages in speech to speech processing. Ai decoded is coming up. Good evening. The Us Senate Majority leader, Chuck Schumer, says Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu has lost his way and it is time for new elections in israel. Mr schumer, who is the most prominentjewish politician in the United States, said that netanyahu risked turning the country into a pariah state, with its bombardment of gaza and the worsening humanitarian crisis it has caused. The fourth obstacle to peace is israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu, who has all too frequently bowed to the demands of the extremists. Like two other ministers, and the settlers in the west bank. I have known Prime Minister netanyahu for a very long time. While we have vehemently disagreed on many occasions, i will always respect his extraordinary bravery on the battlefield as a younger man. I believe in his heart he has his highest priority is the security of israel. However, i also believe Prime Minister netanyahu has lost his way by allowing his political survival to take precedence over the best interests of israel. There was an Immediate Response from the israeli ambassador to washington, michael herzog, who tweeted that it was unhelpful, for an ally to comment on the domestic political scene in israel. Counterproductive, he said, to our common goals. President biden has already said that an expanded assault on rafah where over a million palestinians are sheltering, would be a red line. But today, while addressing an american audience by video link, Prime Minister netanyahu doubled down. We will finish thejob we will finish the job in rafa, while aiding the civilian population to get out of harms way. We have taken measures to minimise civilian casualties that no other army has taken in history. Casualties that no other army has taken in history. Casualties that no other army has taken in history. Rafah. The idf has said it taken in history. Rafah. The idf has said it plans taken in history. Rafah. The idf has said it plans to taken in history. Rafah. The idf has said it plans to move taken in history. Rafah. The idf has said it plans to move the has said it plans to move the displaced palestinians in rafah to what it calls humanitarian islands in the middle of the strip, head of any offensive, but The Americans say they have seen no operational plans, and they have warned that a full scale assault in rafah could be current in catastrophic. There is clearly difficulty at the moment, but why this, why now . I clearly difficulty at the moment, but why this, why now . Clearly difficulty at the moment, but why this, why now . I think it is really hard but why this, why now . I think it is really hard to but why this, why now . I think it is really hard to overstate but why this, why now . I think it is really hard to overstate just really hard to overstate just how significant this intervention, i guess that is the word, this is, by Chuck Schumer. You mentioned at the start, he described himself as the highest ranking Elected Jewish official never, in america. He has hugged israel tightly for over his five decade long career. But there are red lines. A lot of it is down to the rising anger in america, at the sort of death toll that we are seeing in gaza. And we already have seen present by dint trying to draw those red lines as well. It is worth also remembering that Chuck Schumer isnt part of the white house administration, he is not part of government, but he is significant, as i mentioned, as an official, a leading democrat. The white house has a distance himself from his commerce, saying he has a right to express his opinion, but they are not the official white house policy. There was a response on the senate floor from the Senate Minority leader, Mitch Mcconnell, who said that Chuck Schumer� s comments were grotesque and hypocritical. Presumably this is becoming a Dividing Line within American Politics that will play out in the Battleground States in the next eight months . Battleground states in the next eiuht months . ,. ,. , eight months . Yes, you are right. Just to add eight months . Yes, you are right. Just to add to eight months . Yes, you are right. Just to add to what eight months . Yes, you are right. Just to add to what mitch eight months . Yes, you are right. I just to add to what Mitch Mcconnell said, he also said, make no mistake, the Democratic Party does not have an anti bb problem, it has an anti israel problem. There were progresses, as well, just to quote senator brian shapps, a democrat for hawaii, he called it gutsy and historic. I think we can read something into the fact that President Biden recently faced a protest vote in michigan, a key swing state, where you had Many Americans who came out to vote, not for him, like a protest vote. I actually visited michigan specifically a large arab american community, and immediately, after october the 7th, there were lots of very angry people there. That october has grown. I think there was a sense from the Biden Administration that perhaps that was to subside to make but based on a protest vote, i dont think theres going to happen. It is shaping up, it looks like, to be a big election issue for november. Lets speak to the Israeli Government spokesman avi hyman in jerusalem. Grateful to all time this evening. Thank you for coming of the programme. What are humanitarian islands . ,. , programme. 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We did that in the north of gaza, we did that in the north of gaza, we did that in the sense of gaza, and now we have a scenario which many of those people who have moved down into the rafa area rafah area, we have to get them out of the way, because hamas is using them as she shield, hiding amongst them, deeply embedded in them, and we have to take care of them, and we have to take care of them, because rafah is where the last four hamas battalions are residing. We have taken out 18 out of 24. We are fighting in central gaza still, and the last four in rafah. We dont take rafah, if we dont take rafah, they will continue with their act acts, like october seven. �. ,. , i. With their act acts, like october seven. �. ,. ,. , ~ with their act acts, like october seven. �. ,. ,. ,~ seven. But how do you take 1. 4 million peeple seven. But how do you take 1. 4 Million People to seven. But how do you take 1. 4 Million People to a seven. 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I trust the Israeli Government to put enough food into gaza. Enough food into gaza. I reect the notion that enough food into gaza. I reect the notion that they enough food into gaza. I reect the notion that they cant h enough food into gaza. I reect the notion that they cant rely enough food into gaza. I reject the notion that they cant rely on enough food into gaza. I reject the notion that they cant rely on the l notion that they cant rely on the israelis. In notion that they cant rely on the israelis. ,. Notion that they cant rely on the israelis. ,. , israelis. In fact, the israelis. Why are israelis. In fact, the israelis. Why are they israelis. In fact, the israelis. Why are they doing israelis. In fact, the israelis. Why are they doing it israelis. In fact, the israelis. Why are they doing it then . I l israelis. In fact, the israelis. I why are they doing it then . I can exlain why are they doing it then . I can exalain it. Why are they doing it then . I can exalain it. If why are they doing it then . I can explain it, if you why are they doing it then . I can explain it, if you just why are they doing it then . I can explain it, if you just let why are they doing it then . I can explain it, if you just let me i why are they doing it then . I can explain it, if you just let me blush the neck finish. Hamas keeps stealing the aid. We have brought in a 60,000 trucks of aid. 60,000. Hamas fighters are not hungry. I dare say youre right, but there are thousands of tracks outside the Gates Are Rafah that the doctors are passing, you could flood the food into the area, it could be sent to more rapidly. That is not me speaking, that is david cameron, thatis speaking, that is david cameron, that is the american president , and josep borrell. Listen to Whatjosep Borrell said just yesterday. For this humanitarian crisis, which is not a natural disaster, it is not a flood, it is not a earthquake, it is man made, and starvation is being used as a war harm. arm. And when we condemn this happening in ukraine, we have to use the same words are what is happening in gaza. These are your friends, your allies. This is what Chuck Schumer is saying, these are people who are talking of israel, and this is why he is concerned that israel is forcing despite following a policy that will make it a pariah state. I reject that entirely. Not going to wade into American Politics. You can say is that the Prime Minister and his coalition were elected by a wide majority. I can tell that since the october seven, when hamas came through our bodies, beheading, reaping young girls in front of their parents, using rape as a weapon, the israeli people have never been a more united, united by a war aims to destroy hamas to bring home the hostages and to make sure that gaza never comes a threat to israel. We are doing that, giving our utmost to get aid through in a way that no other military or government has done in the past. Aid is getting through to gaza. The issueis is getting through to gaza. The issue is getting it around gaza. There may be pockets where that is a challenge. We are working on that day by day, with humanitarian organisations that arent affiliated, that arent friends with hamas. Also the private sector in a gas. We will do our utmost to get aid to people who desperately need it, not to hamas, and to take out hamas for the sake of people of gaza, and for the sake of the people of israel. ,. ,. ,. , of israel. Ok. I want to put another question to of israel. Ok. I want to put another question to you of israel. Ok. I want to put another question to you. I of israel. Ok. I want to put another question to you. I am of israel. Ok. I want to put another question to you. I am pressed i of israel. Ok. I want to put another question to you. I am pressed for l question to you. I am pressed for time, little bits, not trying to be true. You say you put the lives of palestinian innocent lives first. I want to play you a piece that i wont correspond it yesterday, in eastjerusalem on the spot where a 12 year old boy was shot dead for holding a firework. Watch this. Standing here, it is hard to imagine. Standing here, it is hard to imagine how a 12 year old boy with a firework in his hand could have been any kind of threat to the border police, who were down the road, beyond that high wall, with the fence at the top, heavily armed, and well protected. The Israeli Security minister said the Police Officer who was behind that fence, on top of that wall, was a hero for shooting dead a 12 year old child. Was he a hero . Mr; 12 year old child. Was he a hero . Ij� i understanding is 12 year old child. Was he a hero . Ij� i1 understanding is that 12 year old child. Was he a hero . Ii1 understanding is that you are talking about a violent riots, by which molotov cocktails, by which a fireworks, rockets, were being fired towards our offices, and they obviously, in accordance with the rules of engagement, felt that their lives were threatened. Im not sure specifically what happened to that boy, but i can take you this, this is not a childs plate. Is not a childs plate. There is a watch there. Is not a childs plate. There is a watch there. These is not a childs plate. There is a watch there. These are is not a childs plate. There is a watch there. These are highly l watch there. These are highly trained officers. Can they not differentiate between what you would class as a terrace, and a 12 year old boy, holding a firework . Childs play. And i guess, if they cant, whether they are indeed a hero. I they cant, whether they are indeed a hero. , � they cant, whether they are indeed a hero. , �. , they cant, whether they are indeed a hero. , �. ,. , a hero. 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I want to ask you about the hostage who came on to speak to the bbc yesterday, appalling, truly appalling, he and his sister have faced some truly appalling situations. The families of hostages they have not been put first. I think we can do anything, he said, that we can possibly do to get them out of there, whatever the cost, it is peoples lies. Why are they not the priority . The is peoples lies. Why are they not the priority . The priority . The hostages are livin in the priority . The hostages are living in hell. The priority . The hostages are living in hell. Their the priority . The hostages are living in hell. Their families i the priority . The hostages are i living in hell. Their families