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BBCNEWS BBC July 4, 2024

He said when russians were united, no one could intimidate or suppress them. As our russia editor Steve Rosenberg reports, in a rare move, mr putin also mentioned the Opposition Figure, Alexei Navalny, by name. For Vladimir Putin, six more years in the kremlin. Russias president is sounding more confident than ever. Translation whoever might want to intimidate us, whoever might want to suppress us, our will and our conscience, they have never been able to do it, and never will. Then, mr putins first Public Comments on the death ofjailed Opposition Leader Alexei Navalny. Translation you may be surprised, but a few days before mr navalny died, some colleagues of mine told me there was an idea to exchange him for certain people in prison in the west. You can believe it or not. I said, i agree, even before he had finished talking. But what happened happened. Election results on russian tv, not a hold your breath moment. The winner, by a mile and a half, Vladimir Putin. What an incredible level of support and unity around the figure of putin, he says. And a powerful signal to the west. But in this race, Vladimir Putin was, from the start, unbeatable. There were other candidates but no serious challenger. Potential rivals here are swiftly removed from the political stage, forced into exile or put in jail. And elections, tightly controlled by the kremlin. But if they couldnt win, mr putins opponents could at least protest. And they did, in many parts of russia. Opposition figures had called on russians to flood Polling Stations at midday, to vote against putin, or spoil their ballots, a symbolic protest against the system. We were here. Ive never seen queues like this before at a russian polling station. Before his death in prison, Alexei Navalny had backed the protests. It took courage to come. The authorities had warned that large crowds at noon would be viewed as illegal gatherings. Ivan, not his real name, told me why he had come. It was important for me to see the faces of other people who would come here today, and to see that im not alone in my political views and that there are a lot of muscovites and other people who believe that russia can be another country, with another future. For now, therell be no change in the kremlin. This election was never about would Vladimir Putin win or wouldnt he . Elections here are designed to ensure he wins, and wins big. From the outset, for the kremlin, this vote was about creating the impression that mr putin has a mandate from his people, not only for war in ukraine, but also for what hes doing at home, transforming russia into an increasingly militaristic society, in confrontation with the west. But across town, muscovites continue to pay tribute to Alexei Navalny, the man who had wanted to be russias president. Here, a ballot paper. In place of putins name, navalny� s. And this message hes the candidate we wanted. Steve rosenberg, bbc news, moscow. Oleksandra matviichuk is head of the centre for Civil Liberties in ukraine and spoke to me earlier. She told me what she thought of putins victory speech. It was a very suitable moment for putin to attack ukraine again. Our International Partners promised to be with us as long as it takes, but it is not secret that military support to ukraine, in the United States it is blocked, and other partners cant help us with Artillery Shells and ammunition and now we have a lack of weapons for the current moment. It is a brilliant time to attack and to occupy more territories. It is a genocidal war for us, its a war about our existence. We have no other choice. We will fight because if we stop fighting, there will be no more us. Earlier i spoke to Vitaly Shevchenko the russia editor at bbc monitoring. Putin has also received congratulations from iran and north korea, and within Russia State Television is obviously celebrating what it calls unprecedented numbers of people who voted for Vladimir Putin, people who turned out to vote and the reality is we cant really check those numbers because the Electoral System in russia is absolutely tightly controlled by the kremlin and there is something that happened electoral exercise worked. One of the other three candidates on the ballot representing a nationalist party, he said he was happy for Vladimir Putin to win. He said he knew this was going to happen and it was victory. But among the people who dont support Vladimir Putins policies, there is a completely different mood. An independent Outlet Operating from abroad now, they published an article this morning speaking of helplessness, hopelessness and isolation among the people who oppose Vladimir Putin and his policies, so this is the kind of russia we are seeing right now. There is of course the late Opposition Figure Alexei Navalny who is a spectre of this election, and Vladimir Putin mentioned him by name. How unusual was that foeradimir putin . Very unusual, the first time it has happened, and it makes you wonder about the psychology of power in russia because Vladimir Putin only uttered the name of his most vocal and popular rival after he died. Perhaps it shows how confident putin is, how emboldened he is and how determined he is to continue what he has been doing for more than 20 years now. You used the word emboldened, and he has spoken about ukraine following this election result. How does ukraine factor into this election . It was central to Vladimir Putins platform. He kept talking about how russia is fighting for its survival, how it is surrounded by enemies. The idea that russia needs to wage what Vladimir Putin calls a special Military Operation, it was a cornerstone of his platform, it reinforces a feeling of besieged fortress, and of course it also is a distraction from whatever domestic problems russians might face at home. Lets look at the middle east now and our correspondent anna foster is in eastjerusalem. Over to you, anna. Overnight israel has launched a new raid on gazas biggest hospital, that Al Shifa Hospital, a place where we have seen numerous raids during the war. It is also a Working Hospital as much as any hospital in Gazais Hospital as much as any hospital in gaza is working at the moment, there are still medics inside, patients being treated and a lot of people are using the compound for shelter. The idf said they carried out this operation because they said hamas had regrouped after previous raids there and they said hamas was actually operating within the hospital once again. Hamas has accused israel of violating International Law by targeting the hospital where patients are being treated. Lets hearfrom hospital where patients are being treated. Lets hear from the hospital where patients are being treated. Lets hearfrom the rear admiral. Heres idf spokesperson, daniel hagari. Following Concrete Intelligence that demanded immediate action, we know senior Hamas Terrorists have regrouped inside the Al Shifa Hospital and are using it to command attacks against israel. Our targeted mission isntjust an operational necessity, it is a global imperative. Our forces have undergone specified training to prepare them for the sensitive environment and complex scenarios they may encounter. Our war is against hamas, not against the people of gaza. We seek no harm to the civilians that hamas is hiding behind, which is why we will conduct this operation with caution and care, while ensuring that the hospital continues its important functions. We have heard that 80 people have been detained in hospital. We have also seen been detained in hospital. We have also seen the idfs arabic Spokesperson Posting a map, asking people Spokesperson Posting a map, asking people in Spokesperson Posting a map, asking people in the vicinity of the hospilal people in the vicinity of the hospital to move to alpha wasi, what has been hospital to move to alpha wasi, what has been declared a Saison On The Eastern has been declared a Saison On The Eastern coast of gaza but after more than five eastern coast of gaza but after more than five months a while, for people to actually than five months a while, for people to actually move his proving increasingly difficult. Let speak to a surgeon increasingly difficult. Let speak to a surgeon from Oxford University hospilal a surgeon from Oxford University Hospital Trust who spent time working Hospital Trust who spent time working in hospitals in gaza during the war working in hospitals in gaza during the war. Thank you forjoining us. Really the war. Thank you forjoining us. Really appreciate your time. I know you were really appreciate your time. I know you were there in new york at the moment, you were there in new york at the moment, speaking to the un. Give us an idea moment, speaking to the un. Give us an idea of moment, speaking to the un. Give us an idea of your insight into what it is actually an idea of your insight into what it is actually like in hospitals and gather is actually like in hospitals and gather at is actually like in hospitals and gather at the moment. The situation is a allin gather at the moment. The situation is appalling there gather at the moment. The situation is appalling there and gather at the moment. 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I know you are not there at the moment and i are not there at the moment and obviously i wouldnt ask you to comment on the current rate because youre not there, you cant see what is going on, is rotated Target Hospitals because hamas regularly uses hospital as cover for its fighters. While you have been there, is that something you have ever seen evidence of . Blot is that something you have ever seen evidence of . Evidence of . Not at all and as you can imagine evidence of . Not at all and as you can imagine l evidence of . Not at all and as you can imagine i follow evidence of . Not at all and as you can imagine i follow this evidence of . 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