Repeatedly criticised the primer is as approach to the rwanda policy. She spoke to the bbc on radio four. What the british people have wanted and voted what the british people have wanted and voted for time and time again is for control and voted for time and time again is for control of the borders. The prime for control of the borders. The Prime Minister has pledged to stop the boats Prime Minister has pledged to stop the boats. Thats what we owe the british the boats. Thats what we owe the british people and that the test. Im afraid british people and that the test. Im afraid this bill as drafted will not achieve that goal. Its fatally flawed, not achieve that goal. Its fatally flawed, it not achieve that goal. Its fatally flawed, it has too many loopholes and thats flawed, it has too many loopholes and thats why i voted against it. One flight and thats why i voted against it. One flight here or there with a few passages one flight here or there with a few passages and it will not provide the Deterrerrt Passages and it will not provide the Deterrent Effect that is necessary to break Deterrent Effect that is necessary to break the people smuggling gangs, to break the people smuggling gangs, to send to break the people smuggling gangs, to send the message to the Illegal Migrants to send the message to the Illegal Migrants that its not worth getting in a Dinghy Migrants that its not worth getting in a dinghy in the first place because in a dinghy in the first place because you are not going to get a life iri because you are not going to get a life in the because you are not going to get a life in the uk. We need to have regular life in the uk. We need to have regular flights going to rwanda, with large numbers of passengers on them with large numbers of passengers on them thus with large numbers of passengers on them. Thus the only way we stop the boats them. Thus the only way we stop the boats. ,. , them. Thus the only way we stop the boats. ,. ,. , boats. That was the former Home Secretary speaking boats. That was the former Home Secretary speaking to boats. That was the former Home Secretary speaking to the boats. That was the former Home Secretary speaking to the bbc boats. That was the former home | secretary speaking to the bbc and remind you that we are watching bbc news warrior expecting the Prime Minister to hold a Press Conference in Downing Street talking about the government rwanda plan is still with us is the bbc harry farley. Listening to the former Home Secretary interview there, remind of this policy is also being challenged within the ruling party itself, within the ruling party itself, within the ruling party itself, within the conservatives. Yes, very much so. Within the conservatives. Yes, very much s0 you within the conservatives. Yes, very much so. You remember within the conservatives. Yes, very much so. You remember when within the conservatives. Yes, very much so. You remember when thisj within the conservatives. Yes, very much so. You remember when this bill was first debated and voted on in the House Of Commons was controversy about whether we would pass and there were some like Suella Braverman and the right of the party who had significant concerns, as you heard there, but the bill contains loopholes, they feel it doesnt go far enough to blocking legal challenges to being deported to rwanda and they wanted the bill to be tougher. On the other hand, more moderate conservatives said that the bill goes too far as it stands and breach of law and of law and International Law and rishi sunak essentially faced both of those two wings of his party down and he didnt offer of the bill as those like Suella Braverman wanted and needed to he water it down like those moderate mps wanted as well. But as you say, its a fraught and controversial bill and its controversial bill and its controversial even within the and serve the party itself. Although most of the opposition in the House Of Lords has come from labour peers and crossbench peers as well, a number of conservative peers such as ken clarke have spoken against this bill and its been interesting to note just how few conservative peers have been willing to turn up and vote in the House Of Lords. We had far fewer numbers than the total number of conservative mps and its interesting how night the government can rally to try and vote this bill through. Can rally to try and vote this bill throu~h. , can rally to try and vote this bill throu~h. , ,. ,. , through. Harry, this legislation came about through. Harry, this legislation came about because through. Harry, this legislation came about because the through. Harry, this legislation i came about because the supreme through. Harry, this legislation came about because the Supreme Court ruled that the governments rwanda plan was unlawful or should this legislation go through as expected, is there an expectation that there might be further legal challenges from human Rights Groups . Yes. Might be further legal challenges from human Rights Groups . Yes, i think we can from human Rights Groups . Yes, i think we can certainly from human Rights Groups . Yes, i think we can certainly expect from human Rights Groups . Yes, i | think we can certainly expect legal challenges and i was speaking to one source and the home office and they say theyre fully expecting human Rights Groups, as you say. I Rights Groups, as you say. I have to interrupt Rights Groups, as you say. I have to interruot you Rights Groups, as you say. I have to interrupt you at Rights Groups, as you say. I have to interrupt you at the Rights Groups, as you say. I have to interrupt you at the minister to interrupt you at the minister speaking now. To interrupt you at the Minister Speaking Nova to interrupt you at the minister speaking now. To interrupt you at the minister sueakin now. , , ~ speaking now. Labour peers last week contrived to stop speaking now. Labour peers last week contrived to stop the speaking now. Labour peers last week contrived to stop the safety speaking now. Labour peers last week contrived to stop the safety of speaking now. Labour peers last week contrived to stop the safety of the contrived to stop the safety of the rwanda contrived to stop the safety of the rwanda bill. For almost two years our opponents have used every trick in the our opponents have used every trick in the book our opponents have used every trick in the book to block flights and keep in the book to block flights and keep the in the book to block flights and keep the boats coming. But enough is enough keep the boats coming. But enough is enough no keep the boats coming. But enough is enough. No more prevarication, no more enough. No more prevarication, no more detay~ enough. No more prevarication, no more delay. Parliament will sit there more delay. Parliament will sit there tonight and vote no matter how late it there tonight and vote no matter how late it goes there tonight and vote no matter how late it goes. No ifs, no buts, these flights late it goes. No ifs, no buts, these flights are late it goes. No ifs, no buts, these flights are going to rwanda. We are going flights are going to rwanda. We are going to flights are going to rwanda. We are going to deliver this indispensable deterrent so that we finally break the Business Model of the Criminal Gangs the Business Model of the Criminal Gangs and the Business Model of the Criminal Gangs and save lives. Starting from the moment the bill passes, we will begin the moment the bill passes, we will begin the the moment the bill passes, we will begin the process of removing those identified begin the process of removing those identified for the first flight and we have identified for the first flight and we have prepared for this moment. To detain we have prepared for this moment. To detain people why we prepare to remove detain people why we prepare to remove them, we have increased attention remove them, we have increased attention spaces 2200, to quickly process attention spaces 2200, to quickly process claims, we have 200 try and dedicate process claims, we have 200 try and dedicate caseworkers ready and waiting dedicate caseworkers ready and waiting. To do with any legal cases quickly waiting. To do with any legal cases quickly and waiting. To do with any legal cases quickly and decisively in the judiciary quickly and decisively in the judiciary has made available 25. Identified judiciary has made available 25. Identified under 50 judges who could provide identified under 50 judges who could provide over 5000 sitting days. The court provide over 5000 sitting days. The court has provide over 5000 sitting days. The court has amended the rule 39 procedures in line with the test set out in procedures in line with the test set out in our procedures in line with the test set out in our illegal migration act and we have out in our illegal migration act and we have put beyond all doubt that ministers we have put beyond all doubt that ministers can disregard these injunctions with clear guidance that if they injunctions with clear guidance that if they decide to do so, Civil Servants if they decide to do so, Civil Servants must deliver that instruction. And most importantly, once instruction. And most importantly, once the instruction. And most importantly, once the processing is complete, we were physically removed people. And to do that were physically removed people. And to do that i were physically removed people. And to do that i can confirm that we have to do that i can confirm that we have put to do that i can confirm that we have put an airfield on standby, hooked have put an airfield on standby, booked commercial charter planes for specific booked commercial charter planes for specific slots and we have 500 hightv specific slots and we have 500 highly trained individuals ready to escort highly trained individuals ready to escort Illegal Migrants all the way to rwanda with 300 more trained in the coming to rwanda with 300 more trained in the coming weeks. This is one of the most the coming weeks. This is one of the most complex operational endeavours the home most complex operational endeavours the home office has carried out. But we are the home office has carried out. But we are ready, plans are in place and these we are ready, plans are in place and these flights will go come what may. No foreign these flights will go come what may. No Foreign Court will stop us from getting no Foreign Court will stop us from getting flights off. Rwanda is ready as well getting flights off. Rwanda is ready as well and i would like to thank the government of rwanda for their work in the government of rwanda for their work in strengthening their Asylum Svstem, work in strengthening their Asylum System, passing legislation and setting system, passing legislation and setting up a new appeals tribunal. The next setting up a new appeals tribunal. The next few weeks will be about action, the next few weeks will be about action, whilst im conscious want deeds. Action, whilst im conscious want deeds. Not action, whilst im conscious want deeds, not words, i not going to outline deeds, not words, i not going to outline now exactly what will happen when outline now exactly what will happen when. There are good operational reasons when. There are good operational reasons for when. There are good operational reasons for this. There is a loud Minority Reasons for this. There is a loud minority who will do anything to disrupt minority who will do anything to disrupt our plan so we will not be giving disrupt our plan so we will not be giving away sensitive operational detail giving away sensitive operational detail which could hinder all the Progress Detail which could hinder all the progress made to date. Teams across government progress made to date. Teams across government need to be able to get on and deliver government need to be able to get on and deliver without a interference. Thevre and deliver without a interference. Theyre working flat out to deliver this genuine game changer. The first fliht this genuine game changer. The first ftight will this genuine game changer. The first flight will leave in 10 12 weeks. Flight will leave in10 12 weeks. That is flight will leave in 10 12 weeks. That is later than we wanted but we have always been clear, processing will take have always been clear, processing will take time and if labour peers had not will take time and if labour peers had not spent weeks holding up the bill had not spent weeks holding up the hill in had not spent weeks holding up the hill in the had not spent weeks holding up the bill in the House Of Lords to try to block bill in the House Of Lords to try to block these flights altogether, we would block these flights altogether, we would have begun this process weeks ao. Would have begun this process weeks ago and would have begun this process weeks ago. And the success of this deterrent ago. And the success of this deterrent doesnt rest on this alone. It rests on the relentless continuing alone. It rests on the relentless continuing permanently removing people continuing permanently removing people to rwanda with a regular rhvthm people to rwanda with a regular rhythm of multiple flights every month rhythm of multiple flights every month over the summer and beyond until the month over the summer and beyond until the boats are stopped. I know there until the boats are stopped. I know there are until the boats are stopped. I know there are some who will hear all of this and there are some who will hear all of this and accuse me of lacking compassion. But the truth is the opposite compassion. But the truth is the opposite. We are in a battle with callous opposite. We are in a battle with callous sophisticated and global criminal callous sophisticated and global Criminal Gangs who care nothing for the lives Criminal Gangs who care nothing for the lives they risk in unseaworthy dinghies~ the lives they risk in unseaworthy dinghies. Nine people have died already attempting to cross the channel already attempting to cross the channel. Just this week. We secure the large channel. Just this week. We secure the large with france to strengthen the large with france to strengthen the coastline and because one third were coming from albania we struck a deal that were coming from albania we struck a deal that reduced illegal albanian migrants by 90 . Taken together we are doubling illegal Working Raids and returning 150 hotels back to our local communities. We have the number local communities. We have the number of local communities. We have the number of small boat arrivals last year down number of small boat arrivals last year down by more than one third. The first year down by more than one third. The first time they have fallen since the first time they have fallen since phenomenon began and at a time when European Countries were seeing numbers when European Countries were seeing numbers rise exponentially. But these numbers rise exponentially. But these sophisticated gangs are changing tactics once again. As well as piling changing tactics once again. As well as piling twice as many people into small as piling twice as many people into small dinghies and increasing violence small dinghies and increasing violence against french police, they have shifted their attention towards vulnerable vietnamese migrants. Vietnamese rivals have increased tenfold vietnamese rivals have increased tenfold and account for almost all the increase in small boat numbers we have the increase in small boat numbers we have seen this year. And just as we have seen this year. And just as we have we have seen this year. And just as we have succeeded in reducing alhanian we have succeeded in reducing albanian rivals dramatically, so i am confident we will do the same when am confident we will do the same when it am confident we will do the same when it comes to the vietnamese. President when it comes to the vietnamese. President micron and i have agreed to work president micron and i have agreed to work with European Partners on closing to work with European Partners on Closing Loopholes to enter europe in the First Closing loopholes to enter europe in the first place in the home office has signed a joint statement with the vietnamese government committing to deepen the vietnamese government committing to deepen our already very strong migration to deepen our already very strong migration relationship and j