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next, listen to this exchange on nhs waiting lists where the audience laughed at the prime minister. we are now making progress. the waiting lists are coming down. but what keir starmer didn't mention to you, which you did, julie... waiting lists were 7.2 million. they're now 7.5 million. he says they're coming down, and this is the guy who says he's good at maths. yeah, they are now coming down. they are now coming down. 7.2, when you said you'd get them down... 7.2 million — they're now 7.5 million. i'd like you to explain how they're coming down. because they were coming down from where they were when they were higher... laughter they are down, right? and both offered direct answers to this question. if you had loved ones on - a long waiting list for surgery, would you, if you felt that - that was the only way forward, use private health care? rishi sunak? yes. keir starmer? no. what about how much tax you might have to pay after the election? please raise your. hand if i am wrong. you as prime minister. will not raise income tax.