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interesting, again i think it's getting _ interesting, again i think it's getting to the point about past record. — getting to the point about past record, keir starmer saying the tories — record, keir starmer saying the tories promised to cut those waiting lists and _ tories promised to cut those waiting lists and rishi sunak say look, we've — lists and rishi sunak say look, we've had _ lists and rishi sunak say look, we've had strikes in the nhs, junior doctor— we've had strikes in the nhs, junior doctor strikes and that hasn't helped — doctor strikes and that hasn't helped at all. and covid hasn't held then we _ helped at all. and covid hasn't held then we got to a bit of how would you resolve the strikes for the keir starmer— you resolve the strikes for the keir starmer said we got to resolve them, you've _ starmer said we got to resolve them, you've got _ starmer said we got to resolve them, you've got to get in the room. but with no— you've got to get in the room. but with no detail and him being pushed to what— with no detail and him being pushed to what you mean by that? do you mean _ to what you mean by that? do you mean you — to what you mean by that? do you mean you pay the junior doctors 35% pay rise _ mean you pay the junior doctors 35% pay rise was— mean you pay the junior doctors 35% pay rise was like he said no. a very yes or— pay rise was like he said no. a very yes or no _ pay rise was like he said no. a very yes or no answer, they will both asked _ yes or no answer, they will both asked if— yes or no answer, they will both asked if you had a family member on the waiting _ asked if you had a family member on the waiting list waiting for very important surgery would you go private? — important surgery would you go private? rishi sunak said yes and circular— private? rishi sunak said yes and circular keir— private? rishi sunak said yes and circular keir starmer said no. what would ou circular keir starmer said no. what would you assess _ circular keir starmer said no. what would you assess the _ circular keir starmer said no. what would you assess the tone - circular keir starmer said no. “thrust would you assess the tone of that debate? ,, ., , , ~ ., debate? quite aggressive. more a: aressive debate? quite aggressive. more aggressive than _ debate? quite aggressive. more aggressive than i've _ debate? quite aggressive. more aggressive than i've seen - debate? quite aggressive. morel aggressive than i've seen before. debate? quite aggressive. more - aggressive than i've seen before. of aggressive than i've seen before. of course _ aggressive than i've seen before. of course it— aggressive than i've seen before. of course it is, — aggressive than i've seen before. of course it is, it's one—on—one. i think— course it is, it's one—on—one. i think that's _ course it is, it's one—on—one. i think that's the difference. when