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Live from beirut. We must build a New Britain built from that age old spirit of creativity and enterprise. The Pride And Ambition of working people. Lets start with the breaking lets start with the breaking news in the last Hour News in the last hour that Israeli Military says it has that Israeli Military says it has carried out a what it carried out a what it calls a � targeted attack� calls a � targeted attack� on a senior Hezbollah Commander on a senior Hezbollah Commander in the south of beirut. In the south of beirut. The idf says that he was attack the idf says that he was responsible for organising responsible for organising numerous attacks against numerous attacks against israeli Civilians and soldiers. Israeli Civilians and soldiers. These pictures have come from these pictures have come from the Southern Suburbs of beirut. The Southern Suburbs of beirut. You can see the extent of the you can see the extent of the Wreckage And Destruction in the Wreckage And Destruction in the aftermath of a strike. A aftermath of a strike. A reminder that 560 people have reminder that 560 people have been killed since the israeli been killed since the israeli attack started in lebanon, according to the lebanese health ministry, making it the deadliest day since The End of the Civil War in 1990. Israel says that hezbollah must not be given a break and that attacks would be accelerated. There have been more strikes in the bekaah valley. There is gridlock on the road. Hezbollah has fired dozens of rockets towards northern israel. In the last half an hour, President Biden has addressed the un for the last time, outlining a plan to prevent further Escalation. The british pound as a code for Restraint And De Escalation at the labour party conference. His Defence Secretary left for a Cobra Meeting in the wake of this latest crisis. We can join Anna Foster in beirut. Bring us up Anna Foster in beirut. Bring us up to date with this senior Hezbollah Commander who has been targeted and, say the israelis, killed in this latest strike. ,. , strike. This, matthew, are the Southern Suburbs strike. This, matthew, are the Southern Suburbs of strike. This, matthew, are the Southern Suburbs of beirut. I strike. This, matthew, are the Southern Suburbs of beirut. A| Southern Suburbs of beirut. A few kilometres from here, not very far at all, i was listening to the sound of sirens as they try to get the wounded to hospital, but the Rush Hour Traffic is so tightly packed, they were banging on casting find a way to get the ambulances through the hospital. Israel described it as a targeted attack. Hospital. Israel described it as a targeted the ick. Hospital. Israel described it as a targeted the key figures that is where the key figures in that organisation are based and as we have seen of the last week or so, israel has focused its attention, as well as on the other parts. You are talking about the bekaah valley, amongst the deepest Areas that we have seen israeli forces targeting here in lebanon, through the duration of this conflict, almost a year old now, this particular war, they say they are targeting members of hezbollah, weapons manufacturing Areas, but again we are hearing about that civilian death toll. We spoke about the number of women and children, around 100 women, 50 children, around 100 women, 50 children, killed since this particularly intense bombardment started yesterday morning. And there are real concerns and fears here about how much further this might escalate. �. ,. , escalate. And, given all of that, escalate. And, given all of that. We escalate. And, given all of that, we are escalate. And, given all of that, we are seeing escalate. And, given all of that, we are seeing so escalate. And, given all of l that, we are seeing so many different people leaving the south of lebanon. Tell us more about that in terms of what you have seen, in some of those journeys. Have seen, in some of those Journeye Have seen, in some of those journeys. Well, at the best of times, journeys. Well, at the best of times. Trying journeys. Well, at the best of times, trying to journeys. Well, at the best of times, trying to move journeys. Well, at the best of times, trying to move aroundj times, trying to move around lebanon, it hasn� t got a great transport infrastructure, there is no real public transport and only a couple of highways that in normal times can be incredibly congested but what we have seen at the last couple of days is cars queueing, a journey that you take a couple of hours, taking five, six, seven times longer, as people have been packing their belongings into cars. They don� t always have anywhere to go. These are people moving from their homes, towns and cities in the south, heading for beirut, but when they get here that was not always somewhere for them to be received. We know that the government here are turning schools into reception centres, but they say they have not managed to get everyone in there yet. They say that the numbers displaced are higher than the numbers of people who have registered that there are centres. Interesting to say that the israel defense force, they have been putting out messaging designed to reach people in lebanon, they say we will remove hezbollah from your area then you can return safely to your homes, but i know that there are people questioning whether those homes will still be standing when they get the chance to go back. Be standing when they get the chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, thank chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, thank you chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, thank you for chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, thank you for now. I in beirut, thank you for now. We will talk later on in the programme. We can talk to a former Idf Kernel and director of the international institute for counterterrorism. When there is a universal Core Call to De Escalate, why has israel choosing to escalate this conflict so markedly . Israel is trying to arrive at a situation with hezbollah, where it does not have tends thousands of rockets, it has 150,000, and the different platforms they have been using against israel in the last few months every single day, we are trying to get to a situation where we can tell that almost 70,000 israelis who live Up North near the lebanese border, that they can go home. In the last 11 months they cannot go home, their houses have been bombarded directly with every type of missile you can think of, and in that Sense, what we� re trying to do, and it isn� t happy or easy, war never is, it is the innocents on all sides, but what is really trying to do is enable a situation where hezbollah is not The One on the initiative, that it not The One on the initiative, thatitis not The One on the initiative, that it is The One in defence, that it is The One in defence, that we are pushing them to a place where they will move out of those Areas. Of those Areas. 560 dead. Do ou of those Areas. 560 dead. Do you share of those Areas. 560 dead. Do you share the of those Areas. 560 dead. Do you share the depth of those Areas. 560 dead. Do you share the depth since you share the depth since minister� s view that these tracks have been a masterpiece . Tracks have been a masteriece . ~. , ~ masterpiece . When we talk about targeted masterpiece . When we talk about targeted killings, masterpiece . When we talk about targeted killings, it. About targeted killings, it will be a question every time. What do you do with the terrorists that come on purpose, hide themselves in the middle of a civilian area . Because what you are doing as you are turning a civilian area into that safe place. He did not want a safe place for terrace. Israel has not done attack like this for so many years, because of the results. I am not happy about it. There isn� tjoy in israel, when we see precision targeting, it is absolutely right, it doesn� t look nice, it is not surgical in that Sense. Look nice, it is not surgical in that Sense. Let me ask you about that in that Sense. Let me ask you about that phrase in that Sense. Let me ask you about that phrase you in that Sense. Let me ask you about that phrase you keep. About that phrase you keep using. At least 50 children killed since yesterday. 100 women. Israel keeps using the phrase targeted strikes, it does not sound that targeted. My does not sound that targeted. My heart goes out to every single one of the women and children, the uninvolved. I live here, and in that Sense it is tit for tat, israelis have not been killed, lebanese have been killed, i live in a country that has invested heavily because of these different challenges, in protecting our Civilians, we have Civilians inside Safe Homes were being targeted, Civilians. And we do not have casualties because we build Safe Homes. Safe homes. Back the same tactics used Safe Homes. Back the same tactics used in Safe Homes. Back the same tactics used in gaza, Safe Homes. Back the same tactics used in gaza, going | tactics used in gaza, going after hezbollah, going after hamas, but quite prepared to kill large numbers of Civilians. Kill large numbers of Civilians. ~. , Civilians. We are targeting the terrace, never Civilians. 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And you� re absolutely right, in The End, Civilians get killed and that hurts, as he put this to end but i don� t think that ending it in a way where hezbollah, a Terror Organisation hiding behind Civilians is The One that, right now, gets any kind of backing, not by you in england or the bbc or anywhere. This has been a challenge for so many years and when we do the targeted killing, and you are right, there are Civilians that are killed, and the End Idea is to get to these harsh elements that are bad for the world, battle level, bad for us Civilians. Battle level, bad for us Civilians. , ~ ,. , Civilians. You keep saying that ou want Civilians. You keep saying that you want to Civilians. You keep saying that you want to end Civilians. You keep saying that you want to end this, Civilians. You keep saying that you want to end this, but i Civilians. You keep saying that you want to end this, but you | you want to end this, but you are escalating the situation, to try to end up De Escalating. That is the sort of Intellectual Somersault that doesn� t seem to make Sense. In doesnt seem to make Sense. In the context, israel did not start a war the day before yesterday, we started these targeted attacks extensively, hamas started the war and double seven, and hezbollah, which is deployed in all of the Areas down south in lebanon, they were practising to do the same kind of October 7th attack, so, so, i� m going to ask you, what do you want to do against the terrorists . Do you want to allow him to hide behind Civilians . My heart goes out, i will never target a civilian but when the terrorist is there and i tell the people to leave, i give them an early warning, i am doing to leave, i give them an early warning, iam doing my to leave, i give them an early warning, i am doing my best. I understand how greatly how much this news, but. Let understand how greatly how much this news, but. This news, but. Let me ask ou a this news, but. Let me ask you a separate question, i this news, but. Let me ask| you a separate question, you have made the point several times that you are degrading the infrastructure of hezbollah, you are hitting weapons and taking out key figures back do you share the analysis that many military analysts have voiced over the last couple of days, that you cannot win this from the air, and the next stage looks like this is a prelude to a ground invasion. Is that what is coming . Invasion. Is that what is comina . ,. , coming . Sadly, i agree with those military coming . Sadly, i agree with those military analysts, i those military analysts, because at The End of the day, the attack forces on the ground of hezbollah, who still exist in Southern Lebanon, it is the Civilians were fleeing north because they are innocent, and. ~. ,. , and. So you think a Ground War is coming. And. So you think a Ground War is coming. I and. So you think a Ground War is coming. I do and. So you think a Ground War is coming. I do think and. So you think a ground | war is coming. I do think that is a possibility. War is coming. I do think that is a possibility. And war is coming. I do think that is a possibility. And it is a possibility. And it doesnt is a possibility. And it doesnT Matter i is a possibility. And it doesnT Matter that i is a possibility. And it i doesnT Matter that joe is a possibility. And it doesnT Matter that Joe Biden doesn� T Matter that Joe Biden yet doesn� T Matter thatJoe Biden yet again has spoken about the escalating the situation in the region. They have said that for months and yet we are seeing moves by New Britain<\/a> built from that age old spirit of creativity and enterprise. The Pride And Ambition<\/a> of working people. Lets start with the breaking lets start with the breaking news in the last Hour News<\/a> in the last hour that Israeli Military<\/a> says it has that Israeli Military<\/a> says it has carried out a what it carried out a what it calls a \ufffd targeted attack\ufffd calls a \ufffd targeted attack\ufffd on a senior Hezbollah Commander<\/a> on a senior Hezbollah Commander<\/a> in the south of beirut. In the south of beirut. The idf says that he was attack the idf says that he was responsible for organising responsible for organising numerous attacks against numerous attacks against israeli Civilians<\/a> and soldiers. Israeli Civilians<\/a> and soldiers. These pictures have come from these pictures have come from the Southern Suburbs<\/a> of beirut. The Southern Suburbs<\/a> of beirut. You can see the extent of the you can see the extent of the Wreckage And Destruction<\/a> in the Wreckage And Destruction<\/a> in the aftermath of a strike. A aftermath of a strike. A reminder that 560 people have reminder that 560 people have been killed since the israeli been killed since the israeli attack started in lebanon, according to the lebanese health ministry, making it the deadliest day since The End<\/a> of the Civil War<\/a> in 1990. Israel says that hezbollah must not be given a break and that attacks would be accelerated. There have been more strikes in the bekaah valley. There is gridlock on the road. Hezbollah has fired dozens of rockets towards northern israel. In the last half an hour, President Biden<\/a> has addressed the un for the last time, outlining a plan to prevent further Escalation<\/a>. The british pound as a code for Restraint And De<\/a> Escalation<\/a> at the labour party conference. His Defence Secretary<\/a> left for a Cobra Meeting<\/a> in the wake of this latest crisis. We can join Anna Foster<\/a> in beirut. Bring us up Anna Foster<\/a> in beirut. Bring us up to date with this senior Hezbollah Commander<\/a> who has been targeted and, say the israelis, killed in this latest strike. ,. , strike. This, matthew, are the Southern Suburbs<\/a> strike. This, matthew, are the Southern Suburbs<\/a> of strike. This, matthew, are the Southern Suburbs<\/a> of beirut. I strike. This, matthew, are the Southern Suburbs<\/a> of beirut. A| Southern Suburbs<\/a> of beirut. A few kilometres from here, not very far at all, i was listening to the sound of sirens as they try to get the wounded to hospital, but the Rush Hour Traffic<\/a> is so tightly packed, they were banging on casting find a way to get the ambulances through the hospital. Israel described it as a targeted attack. Hospital. Israel described it as a targeted the ick. Hospital. Israel described it as a targeted the key figures that is where the key figures in that organisation are based and as we have seen of the last week or so, israel has focused its attention, as well as on the other parts. You are talking about the bekaah valley, amongst the deepest Areas<\/a> that we have seen israeli forces targeting here in lebanon, through the duration of this conflict, almost a year old now, this particular war, they say they are targeting members of hezbollah, weapons manufacturing Areas<\/a>, but again we are hearing about that civilian death toll. We spoke about the number of women and children, around 100 women, 50 children, around 100 women, 50 children, killed since this particularly intense bombardment started yesterday morning. And there are real concerns and fears here about how much further this might escalate. \ufffd. ,. , escalate. And, given all of that, escalate. And, given all of that. We escalate. And, given all of that, we are escalate. And, given all of that, we are seeing escalate. And, given all of that, we are seeing so escalate. And, given all of l that, we are seeing so many different people leaving the south of lebanon. Tell us more about that in terms of what you have seen, in some of those journeys. Have seen, in some of those Journeye Have<\/a> seen, in some of those journeys. Well, at the best of times, journeys. Well, at the best of times. Trying journeys. Well, at the best of times, trying to journeys. Well, at the best of times, trying to move journeys. Well, at the best of times, trying to move aroundj times, trying to move around lebanon, it hasn\ufffd t got a great transport infrastructure, there is no real public transport and only a couple of highways that in normal times can be incredibly congested but what we have seen at the last couple of days is cars queueing, a journey that you take a couple of hours, taking five, six, seven times longer, as people have been packing their belongings into cars. They don\ufffd t always have anywhere to go. These are people moving from their homes, towns and cities in the south, heading for beirut, but when they get here that was not always somewhere for them to be received. We know that the government here are turning schools into reception centres, but they say they have not managed to get everyone in there yet. They say that the numbers displaced are higher than the numbers of people who have registered that there are centres. Interesting to say that the israel defense force, they have been putting out messaging designed to reach people in lebanon, they say we will remove hezbollah from your area then you can return safely to your homes, but i know that there are people questioning whether those homes will still be standing when they get the chance to go back. Be standing when they get the chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, thank chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, thank you chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, thank you for chance to go back. Anna foster in beirut, thank you for now. I in beirut, thank you for now. We will talk later on in the programme. We can talk to a former Idf Kernel<\/a> and director of the international institute for counterterrorism. When there is a universal Core Call<\/a> to De Escalate<\/a>, why has israel choosing to escalate this conflict so markedly . Israel is trying to arrive at a situation with hezbollah, where it does not have tends thousands of rockets, it has 150,000, and the different platforms they have been using against israel in the last few months every single day, we are trying to get to a situation where we can tell that almost 70,000 israelis who live Up North<\/a> near the lebanese border, that they can go home. In the last 11 months they cannot go home, their houses have been bombarded directly with every type of missile you can think of, and in that Sense<\/a>, what we\ufffd re trying to do, and it isn\ufffd t happy or easy, war never is, it is the innocents on all sides, but what is really trying to do is enable a situation where hezbollah is not The One<\/a> on the initiative, that it not The One<\/a> on the initiative, thatitis not The One<\/a> on the initiative, that it is The One<\/a> in defence, that it is The One<\/a> in defence, that we are pushing them to a place where they will move out of those Areas<\/a>. Of those Areas<\/a>. 560 dead. Do ou of those Areas<\/a>. 560 dead. Do you share of those Areas<\/a>. 560 dead. Do you share the of those Areas<\/a>. 560 dead. Do you share the depth of those Areas<\/a>. 560 dead. Do you share the depth since you share the depth since minister\ufffd s view that these tracks have been a masterpiece . Tracks have been a masteriece . ~. , ~ masterpiece . When we talk about targeted masterpiece . When we talk about targeted killings, masterpiece . When we talk about targeted killings, it. About targeted killings, it will be a question every time. What do you do with the terrorists that come on purpose, hide themselves in the middle of a civilian area . Because what you are doing as you are turning a civilian area into that safe place. He did not want a safe place for terrace. Israel has not done attack like this for so many years, because of the results. I am not happy about it. There isn\ufffd tjoy in israel, when we see precision targeting, it is absolutely right, it doesn\ufffd t look nice, it is not surgical in that Sense<\/a>. Look nice, it is not surgical in that Sense<\/a>. Let me ask you about that in that Sense<\/a>. Let me ask you about that phrase in that Sense<\/a>. Let me ask you about that phrase you in that Sense<\/a>. Let me ask you about that phrase you keep. About that phrase you keep using. At least 50 children killed since yesterday. 100 women. Israel keeps using the phrase targeted strikes, it does not sound that targeted. My does not sound that targeted. My heart goes out to every single one of the women and children, the uninvolved. I live here, and in that Sense<\/a> it is tit for tat, israelis have not been killed, lebanese have been killed, i live in a country that has invested heavily because of these different challenges, in protecting our Civilians<\/a>, we have Civilians<\/a> inside Safe Homes<\/a> were being targeted, Civilians<\/a>. And we do not have casualties because we build Safe Homes<\/a>. Safe homes. Back the same tactics used Safe Homes<\/a>. Back the same tactics used in Safe Homes<\/a>. Back the same tactics used in gaza, Safe Homes<\/a>. Back the same tactics used in gaza, going | tactics used in gaza, going after hezbollah, going after hamas, but quite prepared to kill large numbers of Civilians<\/a>. Kill large numbers of Civilians<\/a>. ~. , Civilians<\/a>. We are targeting the terrace, never Civilians<\/a>. We are targeting the terrace, never targeting terrace, never targeting Civilians<\/a> and the way you present it is that what you\ufffd re trying to do is kill Civilians<\/a> go to trying to do is kill Civilians<\/a>. O t. ,. , trying to do is kill Civilians<\/a> to t. ,. ,. , ~ go to you are killing Civilians<\/a>, go to you are killing Civilians<\/a>, despite i go to you are killing. Civilians, despite trying go to you are killing Civilians<\/a>, despite trying to go after these fighters, you do also have an obligation to protect Civilians<\/a>. Also have an obligation to protect Civilians<\/a>. And we do so, protect Civilians<\/a>. And we do so. Sir protect Civilians<\/a>. And we do so. Sir we protect Civilians<\/a>. And we do so, sir. We give protect Civilians<\/a>. And we do so, sir. We give early protect Civilians<\/a>. And we do i so, sir. We give early warning. We told them to leave. And you\ufffd re absolutely right, in The End<\/a>, Civilians<\/a> get killed and that hurts, as he put this to end but i don\ufffd t think that ending it in a way where hezbollah, a Terror Organisation<\/a> hiding behind Civilians<\/a> is The One<\/a> that, right now, gets any kind of backing, not by you in england or the bbc or anywhere. This has been a challenge for so many years and when we do the targeted killing, and you are right, there are Civilians<\/a> that are killed, and the End Idea<\/a> is to get to these harsh elements that are bad for the world, battle level, bad for us Civilians<\/a>. Battle level, bad for us Civilians<\/a>. , ~ ,. , Civilians<\/a>. You keep saying that ou want Civilians<\/a>. You keep saying that you want to Civilians<\/a>. You keep saying that you want to end Civilians<\/a>. You keep saying that you want to end this, Civilians<\/a>. You keep saying that you want to end this, but i Civilians<\/a>. You keep saying that you want to end this, but you | you want to end this, but you are escalating the situation, to try to end up De Escalating<\/a>. That is the sort of Intellectual Somersault<\/a> that doesn\ufffd t seem to make Sense<\/a>. In doesnt seem to make Sense<\/a>. In the context, israel did not start a war the day before yesterday, we started these targeted attacks extensively, hamas started the war and double seven, and hezbollah, which is deployed in all of the Areas<\/a> down south in lebanon, they were practising to do the same kind of October 7th<\/a> attack, so, so, i\ufffd m going to ask you, what do you want to do against the terrorists . Do you want to allow him to hide behind Civilians<\/a> . My heart goes out, i will never target a civilian but when the terrorist is there and i tell the people to leave, i give them an early warning, i am doing to leave, i give them an early warning, iam doing my to leave, i give them an early warning, i am doing my best. I understand how greatly how much this news, but. Let understand how greatly how much this news, but. This news, but. Let me ask ou a this news, but. Let me ask you a separate question, i this news, but. Let me ask| you a separate question, you have made the point several times that you are degrading the infrastructure of hezbollah, you are hitting weapons and taking out key figures back do you share the analysis that many military analysts have voiced over the last couple of days, that you cannot win this from the air, and the next stage looks like this is a prelude to a ground invasion. Is that what is coming . Invasion. Is that what is comina . ,. , coming . Sadly, i agree with those military coming . Sadly, i agree with those military analysts, i those military analysts, because at The End<\/a> of the day, the attack forces on the ground of hezbollah, who still exist in Southern Lebanon<\/a>, it is the Civilians<\/a> were fleeing north because they are innocent, and. ~. ,. , and. So you think a Ground War<\/a> is coming. And. So you think a Ground War<\/a> is coming. I and. So you think a Ground War<\/a> is coming. I do and. So you think a Ground War<\/a> is coming. I do think and. So you think a ground | war is coming. I do think that is a possibility. War is coming. I do think that is a possibility. And war is coming. I do think that is a possibility. And it is a possibility. And it doesnt is a possibility. And it doesnT Matter<\/a> i is a possibility. And it doesnT Matter<\/a> that i is a possibility. And it i doesnT Matter<\/a> that joe is a possibility. And it doesnT Matter<\/a> that Joe Biden<\/a> doesn\ufffd T Matter<\/a> that Joe Biden<\/a> yet doesn\ufffd T Matter<\/a> thatJoe Biden<\/a> yet again has spoken about the escalating the situation in the region. They have said that for months and yet we are seeing moves by Benjamin Netanyahu<\/a> to add more aims, to take these new strikes directly to lebanon, you don\ufffd t think that is moving in the opposite direction, what the worries of an all out war in the region . I\ufffd m a civilian officer, not the Prime Minister<\/a>, i go to protests against the Prime Minister<\/a> every single week and putting together what you\ufffd re seeing, is that we are all prime Minister Neto<\/a> i support the fact that the 70,000 friends i have live Up North<\/a> who have not been in their houses that are being destroyed by hezbollah in the last 11 months, we need to change the factor. Hezbollah is not doing this to help hamas in the gaza strip, they are attacking it really is because they want to destroy israel, and there is no other way that i know that hezbollah talks, that We Aim<\/a> to dislodge them, sadly, except for this type of attack. See sadly, if you know how to do it otherwise i would be happy to hear it. They do not respond to diplomacy, they grow stronger with their terror tactics. Thank you forjoining us on bbc news. We have heard from Joe Biden<\/a> at the United Nations<\/a> talking about decades of international policy, what the un has delivered over the years, and at the challenges that they currently face, touching upon the situation in the Middle East<\/a>, so let\ufffd s bring in a senior Associate Fellow<\/a> at the royal united Services Institute<\/a> for defence. Welcome back to the programme. An overalL Assessment<\/a> first of all, after two days of these intensive israeli Air Strikes<\/a> intensive israeli Air Strikes<\/a> in lebanon. What do you make of where we currently now are . Thank you for inviting me, matty. I think where we are as a natural and logical consequence of the last 12 months. Israel has been bombarding gaza for nearly 12 months now, nearly a year, with very little consequence from the united states, despite the biden administration setting a red lines time and again. Time and again they have crossed those red lines, there hasn\ufffd t been accountability or consequences. Quite naturally, the israelis knew that they see fit, without worrying about accountability from the International Community<\/a> whatsoever. International community whatsoever. ~ g. , \ufffd whatsoever. When Joe Biden<\/a> talks about whatsoever. When Joe Biden<\/a> talks about deescalating i talks about De Escalating<\/a> again, as he did in the last hour, what you make of that . I think the israelis will make of that as they had of every other statement in this regard over the last year, he may say that but there will not be any movement from the administration that will actually force them to take it seriously. He said, don\ufffd t escalate, they have escalated. There is no such thing as Escalation<\/a>'>De Escalation<\/a> through excavation. That is very clear to anybody that knows anything about military strategy. It is absurd, it is incredibly dangerous and reckless and risk spiralling into a much more destructive war, across the region, and it says nothing about, in the interim, the destruction of Southern Lebanon<\/a>. I think we are going to see a ground assault, and invasion of Southern Lebanon<\/a>. I strongly suspect that, if the israelis continue in the same track, the next logical course of action will be a Buffer Zone<\/a> in the north. I don\ufffd t think any of this is going to help the israelis return their citizens to the north. I think that the key to that has been clear all along, that if you want to De Escalate<\/a>, in this conflict, then you have to De Escalate<\/a> where you do it actually is, and that is in gaza. Unfortunately, the israelis have made it clear they are not interested in De Escalating<\/a> in gaza. 0n the contrary, they are prioritising a Military Presence<\/a> in gaza, and i suspect that this may turn out to be the case in Southern Lebanon<\/a> going forward, as well. I the case in Southern Lebanon<\/a> going forward, as well. Going forward, as well. I will come back going forward, as well. I will come back to going forward, as well. I will come back to gaza going forward, as well. I will come back to gaza and i going forward, as well. I will come back to gaza and a i going forward, as well. I will. Come back to gaza and a limit. You raise the possibility of a ground offensive, just like our previous guest. The worry of an all out regional war, what does that actually look like . What do you fear most . That actually look like . What do you fear most . Well, at the moment. Do you fear most . Well, at the moment, what do you fear most . Well, at the moment, what we do you fear most . Well, at the moment, what we have do you fear most . Well, at the moment, what we have seen l do you fear most . Well, at the | moment, what we have seen is these crises have relatively remain contained, right . So the fighting hasn\ufffd t spilled out in a huge way outside of gaza. Yes, we have had these Cross Border<\/a> attacks between hezbollah, and is really is, add a reference to your last guest, there are Tens Of Thousands<\/a> of lebanese who have been forced to flee their homes in lebanon. That doesn\ufffd t seem to be part of the conversation. The number of tracks that have taken place from the israeli side of the border into lebanon far exceeds in reverse, in terms of hezbollah strikes into the north of israel. When it comes to iranian involvement, so far, they have been very careful, which is very ironic considering the reigning regime, but they have been if you need cautious in terms of how they have the reigning regime. In terms of how they have responded to israeli actions, there have been assassinations in tehran, the response from the iranians was incredibly lukewarm at least at the time, perhaps i will be something more in the future but there have been other steps, as well. The iranians have shown they are not looking to go beyond a particular point. And i think that we have to be concerned that these types of escalate re tactics, that the israelis are involved in at present, they run the risk of provoking, again, are very reckless response, but that would be the next logical course. Hezbollah would not be able to survive with Reputation And Credibility<\/a> intact within lebanon if it doesn\ufffd t respond to the sort of attacks. Of course, if it does, then that, there is dangerous steps as well. ,. , \ufffd. , well. Joe biden, when he was talkin well. Joe biden, when he was talking about well. Joe biden, when he was talking about the well. Joe biden, when he was talking about the middle i well. Joe biden, when he was| talking about the Middle East<\/a>, spoke about supporting a two State Solution<\/a>. I was reading and analysis a couple of days ago saying that when the west talked about a two State Solution<\/a> they do it in the knowledge that it isn\ufffd t going to happen. And now that is being replaced by talking about a ceasefire that they also know is not going to happen. Do you share that depressing assessment . Share that depressing assessment . \ufffd. ,. ,. , assessment . Im afraid i do. The dynamic assessment . Im afraid i do. The dynamic we assessment . Im afraid i do. The dynamic we have assessment . Im afraid i do. The dynamic we have fallen L Assessment<\/a> . Im afraid i do. I the dynamic we have fallen into for many years is that we have to keep talking about a two State Solution<\/a> because speaking about the reality on the ground is too uncomfortable, diplomatically speaking. And talking about negotiations in terms of a ceasefire, the israelis were never talking about a ceasefire but about a humanitarian Pause Mother<\/a> could get hostages out and then continue bombing. That is not a ceasefire. The israeli media has been clear that netanyahu and his administration has been sabotaging negotiations for many months. I\ufffd m afraid i do agree with that assessment. And i hope that in the final weeks of his administration, Joe Biden<\/a> will take the steps necessary in order to De Escalate<\/a> in the region was that i do not hold out much hope for that but it is the only way forward that would be able to bring about some sort of Escalation<\/a>'>De Escalation<\/a> and less destruction. Of deEscalation<\/a> and less destruction. Of deEscalation<\/a> and less destruction. ,. ,. , destruction. We have to leave it there, but destruction. We have to leave it there, but thank destruction. We have to leave it there, but thank you destruction. We have to leave it there, but thank you for i it there, but thank you for joining us at bbc news. Thank ou. Joining us at bbc news. Thank you around joining us at bbc news. Thank you. Around the joining us at bbc news. Thank you. Around the world joining us at bbc news. Thank you. Around the world and i you. Around the world and across the you. Around the world and across the uk, you. Around the world and across the uk, you you. Around the world and across the uk, you are i you. Around the world and i across the uk, you are watching bbc news. Welcome back. We have heard present biden making that final address to the un general assembly. He called for an end to the fighting in the Middle East<\/a> saying that it was a nobody was my interest. In terms of whatJoe Biden<\/a> laid out, what was the reaction . It would be fair to say he received a pretty positive reception. As President Biden<\/a> said at the start of his remarks, it was his final address to the delegates here, two other World Leaders<\/a>, and it was notable he received a particularly positive reception when he said towards The End<\/a> of his address about Handing Npower<\/a> to the next generation. That was notable because it seemed to resonate with people in the room. He was also positive when talking about the plight of palestinians suffering and the conflict in gaza. He did also mention this current Escalation<\/a> between israel and hezbollah, but he said very little on this. And we have been watching some of the World Leaders<\/a> pass by when we are, here in new york, trying to grab some comments. Most people have not really said anything yet. We are waiting to see how that speech on this topic, which is dominating the headlines here in new york, how that will be received back, to be honest, what we are also waiting to see is how those diplomatic channels are turned on, and what types of discussions they are having here on the sidelines. In that address, people looking to President Biden<\/a> to see what signals we get from him but the hard work on negotiations and try to move forward negotiations, to De Escalate<\/a> the situation will happen on the sidelines when you have World Leaders<\/a> and delegations coming together, so thatis delegations coming together, so that is what looking out for, and as i mentioned, will be speaking to the israeli ambassador to the un later in the afternoon to hear a bit more about what discussions are happening and how they assess the us\ufffd s plans, concrete plans, to find an Off Ramp<\/a> to this Escalation<\/a>. To find an Off Ramp<\/a> to this Escalation<\/a>. ~. , Escalation<\/a>. We will get more reaction later Escalation<\/a>. We will get more reaction later in Escalation<\/a>. We will get more reaction later in the reaction later in the programme. Thank you for that assessment. In the last you minutes, israel saying they have launched a new wave of extensive strikes, that is how they describe it, on hezbollah targets in lebanon. They have launched a new wave of extensive plaques on hezbollah. This is the scene that we have got familiar with since yesterday, which is these explosions, are consistently going on inside of lebanon. Let\ufffd s turn from that here to uk politics. Here, in the uk, in his first speech as Prime Minister<\/a> at labour party conference, Sir Keir Starmer<\/a> called for Restraint And De<\/a> Escalation<\/a> on the border between lebanon and israel. He also pledged to continue helping ukraine. While domestically, he defended the cut to Winter Fuel<\/a> payments for some pensioners and promised to Fix The Foundations<\/a> at home. People said we couldnt change the party, but we did. People said the party, but we did. People said that the party, but we did. People said that we would not win across said that we would not win across britain, but we did. People across britain, but we did. People said that we cannot deliver people said that we cannot deliver national renewal, but we can deliver national renewal, but we can and we will. Cheering we will stabilise the economy, root we will stabilise the economy, Root Alphatauri<\/a> wrote, Fix The Foundations<\/a> and deliver the mandate of change, a briton built mandate of change, a briton built to mandate of change, a briton built to last, built with respect, built with pride, because respect, built with pride, because together we have shown that britain belongs to you. Thank that britain belongs to you. Thank you, conference cheering Sir Keir Starmer<\/a> a little earlier. Stay with us. Alex forsyth, our political correspondent is at the conference in liverpool. We will talk to her in the next few minutes. A reminder of that Breaking Line<\/a> i brought you come out that israel says it has launched a new wave of extensive plaques on hezbollah targets across lebanon. These are the live pictures you can see, the flames and some of the latest explosions in the centre of the picture. We will have the latest on verified live in just a moment. The latest on verified live in just a moment. Flood warnings remain in just a moment. Flood warnings remain in force just a moment. Flood warnings remain in force across just a moment. Flood warnings remain in force across parts i just a moment. Flood warnings remain in force across parts of| remain in force across parts of england after the Heavy Rain<\/a> of the vast today but the weather in Areas<\/a>'>Flood Affected Areas<\/a> right now is looking a little drier and brighter. There is more rain on the way through the rest of the week. Then, it is set to turn colder. But the worst of the rain is going to be falling in a slightly different area, the heaviest downpours and biggest accumulations to the rest of the week likely to be across parts of north east england. Warnings have already been issued by the met office. Right now, we find ourselves in a window of drier and in places brighter weather. The exception is across the north of scotland. Here, we have cloud, outbreaks of rain and an orderly Wind Tucking<\/a> in, making it feel decidedly chilly. Northern ireland, northern england, delved into the midlands and wales, some sunny spells, with cloud across the south stopping to break. Heading into the evening, many places seem clear spells. This band of cloud bringing showers to Southern Scotland<\/a> and northern england. Late in the night we will see Patchy Rain Pushing<\/a> into southern and South West<\/a>ern england. It is going to be a cool, chilly night, in some parts of Scotland Dropping<\/a> down to freezing, some Areas<\/a> of the midlands could start tomorrow with Areas<\/a> of mist and fog. Going through the day tomorrow, this band of cloud bringing showers across northern england, Southern Scotland<\/a>, scattered showers across the north of scotland, but again, it would be a cold day, around 10 celsius. Even further south temperatures down, and Rain Pushing<\/a> on across the South West<\/a> of england, and wales, and that with a track to drift its way northwards, heading to Wednesday Night<\/a> into thursday. This is where the rain comes, that band of wet weather becoming very slow moving. Some rain for Northern Ireland<\/a> and Southern Scotland<\/a>. To the south of that, sunny spells, but some hefty showers falling in places where we have seen that letting over recent days and in the north of scotland, it is going to be a cold day. And that colder air is going to sink southwards as we head towards The End<\/a> of the week. Pliskova northerly winds accentuating each of the field. Temperatures are really struggling. 0ver temperatures are really struggling. Over the weekend, it will eventually turn wet in the west. Good afternoon. We can go to liverpool for the labour party conference. Keir starmer has been giving his speech. We have also heard from the justice his speech. We have also heard from thejustice secretary. This is what she has been saying. This is what she has been sa ini. ~ , , saying. When i first stepped into the ministry saying. When i first stepped into the ministry of saying. When i first stepped into the Ministry Ofjustice L<\/a> saying. When i first stepped into the Ministry Ofjustice<\/a> i | into the Ministry Ofjustice<\/a> i encountered a situation far from the ideal i have cherished all my life. Within minutes, i was told the Justice System<\/a> was on the point of collapse, and within weeks the prisons would overflow, if that happened, the consequences would have been apocalyptic, and a court forced to cancel trials, please unable to cancel trials, please unable to make arrests, criminals who would never see the inside of a cell and victims who would never see justice done. We would, in short, have seen the total breakdown of law and order. Justice demands that crimes are met by punishment. The last government to put that basic principle at risk. 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