From todays apple event we start with a major selloff in the financials the biggest driver in the market with the xlf falling more than 1. 3 citi dropping 7 today under pressure that regulators could crack down on the banks Risk Management systems the stock is now down more than 12 in the past two sessions guy . Dan nathan has been talking about this for a while one of the things weve said is todays banks are much different than ten years ago theyve become utilities you have to look at them differently and you have to factor in valuations much differently. Ill say this quickly about citi right now at 45 the stock is now trading 63 of tangible book, assuming that tangible book is accurate thats levels we last saw probably in the financial crisis these are trough valuations in terms of the price of tangible book i think Warren Buffett told you everything you need to know about us banks hes obviously paring down exposures in banks i think that tells you a lot as well in terms of citi, its a safe play in the long game to say that citi will figure this out and this trough valuation in terms of tangible book, if you have a time horizon, this is about as good as it gets at a historical measure. I get the discount that its trading relative to peers. If you have the occ and the fed reserve looking into you have and you have this track record where you have also in the past been behind the curve when it comes to conforming with regulatory demands this is a company thats had trouble in the past too. Thats true guy is right that the banks are in better shape than they were back in that time. Still, Risk Management is key. When thats called into question, you have to have concerns about the bank in general. Were not huge fans of the banks in general, but we have actually been buying jp morgan. In our opinion, if youre going to buy a bank shs you need to look at that Management Team and that Balance Sheet for us jp morgan is probably the best of those banks. Even though were underweight banks, we dont hold citi. Jp morgan would be our choice if you want to have some exposure there. Its going to get new management in the form of jane fraser theres an argument that jane frasers background in management and risk profile and understanding these dynamics, claims is almost done. Sounds like theres stale lot to do i think shes the right person for the job. If you think about citibank, worst in class returns mia a is asset sales, b is buybacks and c is a case where theyre starting to get through some of the restructuring that needs to be done, but ultimately its about the cost side of the Balance Sheet and where thats really been the only place youve been excited. Guy pointed out the multiple how about 84 million shares . The most share volume youve seen in this bank since march of 2014, which on a twoday basis when you consider the entirety of the move, unless there is something much bigger here that the market is sniffing out, this does seem like an opportunity in terms of oversold. Im long citibank. To be clear, i hope so unless theres new news about some egregious oversight rather than systemic issues, i think were okay. The pace of the selling, with the occ and the Federal Reserve in this in there, investors probably go right to are share buybacks safe. Are those things still going to be allowed thats sort of the worst Case Scenario here. This is at the epicenter of value versus growth. If youre going to be an investor in banks people are going to go for jp morgan, bank of america or the brokerage, goldman, morgan. Most of the dedicated analysts from five and ten years ago are now covering square and paypal and visa so its lost its luster and theyre going more into thin tech space i think i would still avoid the banks, quite honestly. Guy adami, heres a provocative would you rather. I love that square or jp morgan . Square. Absolutely i think the Growth Potential for square is still there. We understand that its had a ridiculous run and people will cast aspersions of valuation but when you talk about a company with Growth Potential as opposed to one where we know where the ceiling is with jp morgan, you put a 1. 8 price to tangible book you get a 115 stock thats exactly where it topped out in june. Whereas a name like square to me, i think thats where the growth is. I think steve would probably agree. Given the game would you, square. Victoria, your favorite nonbank financial. S p global is something weve been uh buying in the financial arena. Were not a big fan of the banks. We agree with steve on that, but we have to have some exposure. To look for other things, s p global is a great way to have some exposure there. Its sticky business its high margins. They have low net debt lets move onto apple today. Lets start with that new hardware apple today unveiling the new ipad air that starts at 599, a price jump for that device it will be available next month. 10. 9 inch display, what the Company Calls a huge boost in performance. The question is whether or not it helps boost ipad sales in the quarter ahead which have benefitted now that people are working, learning and playing at home two new watches as well. Apple dominates 53 of the global smart watch market. Now introducing a new series 6 which can measure blood oxygen the watch se starting at 279 only about 10 of iphone owners have the watch in other words, they see the potential for strong growth ahead. News on Services Ahead the long rumored Services Bundle is announced the bundle comes in three different tiers starting at 14. 95 per month. A new Fitness Service for the watch as well where users will be able to access a catalog of workout videos thats going to cost you 9. 99 per month. Theres also a hand washing function on the watch, which i dont understand how that works. Thats actually part of the new watch operating system which comes with new features. It tells you if you spent enough time washing your hands. I think they keep hammering home this idea that the watch is a health and fitness device. I want a function that tells me if other people are washing their hands enough, not me josh, thank you. In terms of the ecosystem all of these new gudevices are importa for that i think the bundles are interesting. As you get into the health care this is what weve known for apple for a long time and this is what weve been waiting for i dont think there was anything earth shattering here, but this apple bundle which gives you a collection of services that are part of the suite. Some or all of those are things people are already paying a la carte for. Ultimately the health care dynamic and everything that people are obsessed with these days including your oxygen level in your blood which is a very simple reading you can buy devices off of amazon for almost nothing that do this. Apple in terms of Daily Health Care and regular routine and observation, i think this is important. I think theyre called pulse oxymeters. Im shaking my head because it says you need an application from the Application Store to let you know when people wash their hands. Its called the vision app or for some people its called the smell application. Number two, the great jeff mills, the general actually power pitched s p global i know hes watching right now shaking his head up and down like this. I know Everybody Loves apple but youve had five or six major peak to trough declines. It was a bit of a yawn fest for me, but of course somebody who only goes to the Application Store a few times a year would be a big yawn fest. Its a big trip for you to get in the car and go the Application Store. I agree with guy. Last week we saw the 110 level hold in apple. You look at the moving average there at 109. 5 level or so i think were going to break that level and trade to the mid 90s. I think we lost there you go go ahead, steve. Im looking for a mid 90s print. Im out of the name currently. I do believe you will see very shortly apple in the mid 90s lets bring in gene munster ill take the over on that. I think this stock is going to continue to move higher, in part because of what we saw today it was really a layer below the surface. The key takeaway was how this company is masterfully upselling its consumers. Theyve taken larger screen phones, more capacity in the iphone, maybe more feature rich airpods. They did it three times today. Whether its the se is going to get people to motivate to get the most recent apple watch, whether its bundling to get people to buy more or what they did around the pricing with the ipad air i think this company has a competitive advantage. One last thought on that, this masterful price seg menatimentan up sell. They do have great products and consumers see the tradeoff that Price Premium relative to value. I think youre going to continue to see asps inch up here when you think about what is in the bundles, gene, it seems like some services there wasnt really great consumer uptake when it comes to music and it was maybe not as big as some might have thought how do you think about what they are up selling in that incremental dollar you are getting from that subscription theres six services theyre bundling together. They have about 500 million subscribers. Were taking six products over 500 million subscribers bundling them any time you bundle someone above 8, the bundles start at 15 and go to 30 when you put all this together, youre going to see 25 to 50 less its still a small part of their business although six products account for about 4 billion many revenue a nice move that piece is probably a little bit too small to move the needle agree on services being obviously a more exciting part of the story can you refresh for us or break down your valuation and how you are valuing the pieces because this seems to be the story with how you come up with a level on apple. I take a different approach im more at what earn iings grot is going to be i think that ultimately if you fast forward a year from now in 2021, were going to be thinking about 2022 estimates i think ultimately if you take a 35 times my 2022 estimate, that yields a 200 stock price. Thats a 3. 4 trillion market cap. Staggering number. You may think i lost my sense of guidance here, but ultimately i think this is very achievable. Now weve kind of put this concept about the traditional view of apple, i think that view is slowly fading away. I think investors are progressively looking at this as more wholistic i think were going to see the hammer on that theme a few years from now when they start bundling hardware and services i envision they will have a product where you pay apple a certain month, you get all of your hardware and software needs. Only apple can pull that off theres no other company in the world. Consumers want it. They want to make this easy. Apple has a chance to redefine as a Services Business entirely. Victoria, what are your thoughts on apple . We started trimming our apple position about a month ago, not because we didnt like the company, but for the sheer fact that it was an overweight in our portfolio. You can use the pullback as an entry point. I like the bundle. I already pay for three of those items separately so a bundle makes sense. I also like the fitness app. I waited five weeks to get my peloton delivered. Were full in the position, but if you dont own it may be Start Building your position. To the point victoria is making on some of the competing apps, guy, i know youre a big fan of the beach body app. Pandora is 10 a month, drop box plus is 10 a month. Is there a risk these bundles actually harm others out there who are offering stand alone services no question peloton is obviously a little bit different. With that said, you saw the knee jerk reaction of peloton right off the bat after apple announced this this is always the fear that some companies are amazoned. Well, in this world some companied can be appled. With that said, i think there is a faction of people that still like individual things the whole bundle thing sounds confining to me. Id rather pick and choose my applications as oppoe poepposede it under one umbrella. 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The sec is also looking into these broad claims surrounding nikola neck nikola reached out proactively to the sec and said we want you to look into these claims. The claims said this is an intricate fraud that nikola is perpetrating here and that basically investors are on the hook what you heard from nikola on friday and monday was a refuting of those claims from hindenburg. Today hindenburg said we view nikolas response as a tacit admission of securities fraud. That tacit admission because one of the claims was that a semitruck that was filmed by nikola back in 2017 was not propelling itself. It was being rolled down a hill. It was in motion it was not an actual driving vehicle. Im showing you General Motors because General Motors said we did appropriate diligence when it comes to looking into nikola before striking the deal nikola will have its badger electric pickup truck built by General Motors we have heard nothing at all from the chairman of nikola, trevor milton. You have to wonder if these investigations take away the real oxygen that has pushed this stock higher over the last month. Trevor milton on social media friday, but not since then. He had that sort of monologue that had some profanity in it that we bleeped out. We aired part of that. Bloomberg had that report about the pickup truck or the semitruck not actually being functional at an event a long time ago has gm not said anything they have not said anything i think General Motors position and this is conjecture based on conversations with people at the company. If this turns out that nikola is really not what everybody thought it was going to be, whats the worst that happens . They no longer build it. Its a little embarrassing for General Motors since they said they did appropriate diligence from General Motors perspective its too early to pull the plug. You cant be happy that nikola is under investigation but theres the possibility this could all wash out and they do build this badger electric pickup truck nikola gives them the size and scale. Thats the attractive part of this deal for them. Steve grasso, i think thats an interesting point it didnt cost gm any money basically. Its sort of an option on the success of this company. When i look at this, were caught up in reading tea leaves now. So you have to look atte at technical the 28. 75 is your near term support. Your 200day is 25. 62. Maybe gm is advising them. This is all me just guessing but maybe gm is advising them not to speak maybe gm is advising them not to open their mouths because of the profanity that we heard last week they dont like the look of that having said that, if gm says they did their Due Diligence, i think you have to count that as a huge bullish point so where phil said maybe they could just walk away, it will be a little embarrassing, i am more constructive on this but i would like to see some more levels get tested if it holds the 200day, id be being to go small or feel at a level you feel confident in, but i think the stock moves higher as soon as we heard something good. If gm really did Due Diligence, this would put doubts in my heat about my futuany futa that gm partakes in at all its not like there was no question about this company before there is that bloomberg article about the semi truck that was not functional at an unveil function. Yeah. That would be my concern i can understand why for some people it would just be viewed as a slight embarrassment to General Motors i totally get that i also think the other side of the coin is if gm said they did their Due Diligence and there is something here, to me thats problematic. Let me say one other thing the agencies that are doing their Due Diligence are doing exactly that it doesnt mean nikola is guilty of anything. To steves point whether