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and tell. thank you for that. but it is really interesting how sort of quiet it is there. if that changes, let us know. we're going to go now to some experts on these and other issues. national security attorney mark zade and former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe. let's start with you on what you say from shimon. does that surprise you? >> it's a little surprising that you don't see more of a physical presence being developed, barricades coming out, vehicles blocking certain streets to access parts of the courthouse. you may still see that by the end of the day today. sometimes 24 hours before the event is when you see that -- those hard changes come into play. we'll have to keep a close eye on it. i'm sure they're coordinating closely across those law enforcement jurisdictions that shimon mentioned. we have to wait and see what happens. >> let's attorney some of the legal issues and, of course, the political issues that go with