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so harry, let s play what trump organization lawyers said today after court. these cases are always resolved in the civil context. the irs has never made a case like this. they cannot point to any case, any case, where a corporation has been prosecuted based on a few individuals in the corporation who allegedly, on their personal tax return, made a mistake or did not pick up fringe benefits on their personal tax return. you hear that, and there is the question, harry, most of these cases against corporations like this are generally civil. can you explain why this one is criminal? yeah. and it s not really true. this is spin and talking points that they prepared before, i think, they saw tin he indictme.