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scott changing subjects a bit here. i do want to play an exchange that president biden had with abc news. this is about his son hunter, who of course is on trial right now on gun charges in a criminal court let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict no matter what it is? >> yes and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? yes. >> you have what do you what do you think of that answer there? >> scott well, he has to say that today i'm skeptical. >> he also didn't say he was ruling out a commutation but once you get past november, win or lose, joe biden will never face the american voters again. and once you get it free of that burden you could, you could make a lot of different decisions and we know how much he cares about his son and we know how much he likes to think of himself as a protector for his family. and it would be very difficult, i think for a father to see a sun sitting in jail, a particularly when last