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United states. Sources tell cnn theyll move forward with at least two articles abuse of power and obstruction of congress. The key number there is two and likely only two. Theres still some debate about including elements from the Mueller Report, but at this point, it appears unlikely. A vote in the Judiciary Committee on those articles is expected by the end of the week, within days, and a vote in the full house on impeachment next week. The impeachment drama is certainly on President Trumps mind as well as the justreleased Inspector Generals report which found that the fbis russia probe was justified and it was carried out without bias. This morning President Trump is lashing out at his own fbi director on twitter after Christopher Wray said this in a new interview. So the fbi did not spy on the Trump Campaign . Well, thats not a term at the fbi we use to describe our work. Do you have any evidence the fbi targeted the Trump Campaign unfairly . I dont. Much more on that in a moment, but first, the impeachment announcement coming imminently. Im joined by congresswoman kathryn clark, the vice chair of the democratic caucus. Thank you very much for being with us. Were awaiting this announcement in less than an hour now. What will that announcement be . We are anticipating, john, that we are going to see at least two counts of articles of impeachment. And that will involve what the facts have shown us. And the facts are uncontested that this president betrayed his oath of office. He has endangered our National Security. And he has threatened and presents a clear and present danger to our elections in 2020. We anticipate there will be all of that will be captured in the article of impeachment dealing with abuse of power. And that there will be an obstruction article as well because of all the barriers to getting to the truth that this white house and president have tried to put between the American People and the facts. An obstruction of Congress Article as opposed to obstruction of justice. And the reason i bring that up is because obstruction of justice would have to do with the Mueller Report and the legal investigation that was under way there. You say at least two articles at this point. Do you believe there will not be a third article that deals specifically with the allegations in the Mueller Report . We are going to see. In just about an hour where it is. But what we know is that there is a pattern with this president of obstruction. Ten counts laid out in the Mueller Report. A president who said in june he would gladly take dirt from the russians again if offered. A president who got on a call with the president of ukraine and said do us a favor, though. And has tried to withhold all of the testimony from key witnesses. If this president really thinks that there is nothing about his behavior that is called into question, he should have been more forthcoming with the documents and the witnesses requested by congress. But why is it that you seem to know that there will be articles of abuse of power and obstruction of congress but not obstruction of justice . It seems theres certainty about the first two. Whats the holdup with the third . Is there still a debate ongoing at 8 04 a. M. Eastern time about whether to include something that has to do with the Mueller Investigation . I think there is no debate here about todays the day for accountability. Today is the day that the democrats in the house are saying we have to look to protect our constitution. We have to look to protect our democracy. While we continue doing the work of the people. Just this week, were going to be doing a Prescription Drug bill. Last week we voted to expand and protect the right to vote. We are going to be looking at hopefully getting a trade deal done by the end of the year that will be good for Climate Change and good for american workers. This is the work that House Democrats are doing. This is a threat to our democracy that this president has posed. And sometimes i feel like i come to work here in a hall of mirrors where its raining out and the republicans say the sun is shining. We have serious allegations that have arisen out of this impeachment inquiry. We followed the truth, and the truth brought us to today. We will see the particulars of the articles of impeachment shortly. But its a solemn day for our country. Were about 55 minutes away from that announcement when we expect again two articles. Probably not a third. But you brought up something very interesting there. You brought up this trade deal which may very well be announced today. Thats an agreement between House Democrats and the house on usmca, which is basically the new nafta. And the dean of the massachusetts delegation, richie neal, the chair of the ways and Means Committee says its fair to say were doing great by any objective standard, this is substantially improved. Weve constructed, i believe, a template for the future. What does it say to you that House Democrats can reach a deal on something as major as this new trade deal on the very day that articles of impeachment are being announced . This is exactly what we have been doing since we took the majority in the house in january. Doing the for the people agenda, making sure that we are working to raise the minimum wage. Equal pay for women. And now a trade deal that will help protect american jobs, protect the environment and give us the crucial enforcement pieces that we need. That is what was lacking in nafta. And we are here working for american families. And american workers. Ive been reading from democratic activists on twitter overnight and in the morning asking why would they give President Trump a victory on usmca in these weeks of impeachment. How do you respond to that . The victories were concerned about are victories for the American People and creating Good American jobs. It is not about a win or not a win for the president. He wins when we all work for the American People. That is what this president has failed to do that has resulted in the articles of impeachment. Just one last question. You are a member of house leadership among your many jobs is to help get democrats elected and reelected to the house. How will you provide cover for some of the democrats who were in swing districts or more republican districts on this imminent Impeachment Vote . The House Democrats that are in swing districts dont need cover because theyre doing whats right. They are following the truth. And that is what we what we said we would do when we took an oath of office to defend and uphold the constitution so were not worried about the political ramifications. Were worried about the future of our democracy. Congresswoman katherine clark, great to have you on with us. And along with you, were waiting for this announcement now in less than one hour. Thank you, john. President trump is lashing out at his fbi director this morning. For agreeing with the Inspector General report and debunking President Trump and Rudy Giuliani and their conspiracy theories about ukraine. What does this mean for director Christopher Wray . Thats next. The Marilyn Monroe collection of fine jewellery. Exclusively at zales, the diamonds are a girls best friend store. Itheres my career. s more to me than hiv. Exclusively at zales, my cause. And creating my dream home. Im a work in progress. So much goes into who i am. Hiv medicine is one part of it. 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Joining us now, cnn political analyst David Gregory and cnn correspondent abby phillip and chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. Lets listen to some of what chris wray, the fbi director, has said on good morning america. Lets just start, i guess, with s 12 for nfun. The fbi, was it part of some deep state . I think thats the kind of label thats a disservice to the 37,000 men and women who work at the fbi. Thats not a term i would ever use. So the fbi did not spy on the Trump Campaign . Well, thats not a term that the fbi we use to describe our work. Do you have any evidence the fbi targeted the Trump Campaign unfairly . I dont. Okay. Well, thats the opposite of what President Trump has said for the past three years heres what President Trump just said this morning a few minutes ago. I dont know what report current director current, right . Current director of the fbi Christopher Wray was reading but it sure wasnt the one given to me. With that kind aof attitude, hell never be able to fix the fbi despite having some of the greatest men and women working there. That doesnt bode well calling someone current director. It doesnt bode well, but there has been this christmas lying operation, even by the standard of the Trump Administration of lying about what this report said. It did say that certain lower level fbi employees behaved improperly. And in the seriously bad way, but at the core accusation that the fbi targeted the Trump Campaign, spied on the Trump Campaign, is just a complete repudiation in this report. And, you know, to pretend otherwise is just a disgrace. I have to say in this interview that Christopher Wray did, the current fbi director as the president has now taken to calling him, wray went even further than just the Inspector General report. He was asked about ukraine and the Conspiracy Theory the president has been spreading that ukraine attacked the 2016 election. Listen to how the current fbi director answered that question. We have no interfere that indicates that ukraine interfered with the 2016 president ial election. Theres all kinds of people saying all kinds of things out there. I think its important for the American People to be thoughtful consumers of information, to think about the sources of it. To think about the support and predication for what they hear. And i think part of us being well protected against maligned foreign influence is to build together an American Public thats resilient that has appropriate Media Literacy and that takes its information with a grain of salt. I swear, it sounds like hes saying dont listen to the president on this. And dont listen to the president s favorite network. Basically, networks is what he is saying. Im not sure theres any separation there. Its one in the same thing. Its amazing what the fbi director is saying, consider your sources. And one of those sources is the president. I also felt like he was talking to the president in the other part. Like i think the American People need to pay more attention and be more resilient to this kind of thing. He may be saying, hey, mr. President , Rudy Giuliani is telling you all of this stuff. Rudy giuliani is running around in ukraine talking to people who have all kinds of ulterior motives for really spreading this kind of Conspiracy Theory. Consider that source, too. So, you know, its a real really Important Message and it goes to the heart of all of this which is that what is happening in this ukraine investigation is that it really unfolded an effort by russia to create a divide between the United States and its ally in ukraine. In part by spreading this Conspiracy Theory which dr. Fiona hill, a trump appointee, testified is at its source from russian intelligence services. And the president of the United States is one of the individuals spreading that Conspiracy Theory. Thats why, for Christopher Wray, theres really no debate about this. He doesnt have to beat around the bush because hes living in a world that is based in fact. Currently. Also if you Pay Attention to those people who are closest to the workings of government, to the workings of our intelligence agencies, they are the ones who are who understand the importance of their jobs and the importance of the institutions of government. Like Christopher Wray appointed bee the president , like tom bossert who work forward president bush, like fiona hill, like the National Security adviser john bolton, all of whom didnt think there was any merit to any of this. Its only the president and those elected allies who were trying to spread something that russia would like spread about ukraine. And that is the real answer. I mean, its going back to what jeffrey said. Its shocking the level of deceit thats going on about what actually happened. But there are people in this government who believe in institutional integrity and Christopher Wray is one of them who is not going to allow the fbi to be battered despite mistakes theyve made. As long as hes running it. The current director, look. We know this president will fire an fbi director if he doesnt like the direction in which hes investigating. Thats it, jeffrey. There you go. Because what Christopher Wray is saying, and i applaud that hes calling for Media Literacy. Not all news is created equal. Obviously, people have learned that over the past few years. They need to consider the source. Im basically quoting him here in terms of Media Literacy he talked about. But how long can he last when the president is tweeting about him like that. And when the department of justice, the attorney general, wrays direct supervisor is on a tirade about this report because it wasnt critical enough. And the