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CNN CNN Tonight With Don Lemon July 11, 2024

Scotfree is actually spelled with one two but two ts on that card. That one piece of evidence, an insight into the mans State Of Mind that he can get away with anything because of his skin color. His lawyer saying this to cnn. This was a guy simply following the advice and the commentary of the president of the United States. So tonight the acting chief of the Capitol Police proposing security fencing erected around the capitol in the wake of the deadly insurrection stay up permanently. Also police say a man arrested near the capitol was armed with a gun and 20 rounds of ammunition and a list of lawmakers names. The house speaker, nancy pelosi, responding to concerns about security by Members Of Congress, saying the enemy is within the house of representatives. With all this, President Biden pushing for bipartisan support to pass his massive nearly 2 trillion covid relief plan. Lets get right to it. Cnns White House Correspondent is john harwood, and our senior political analyst is john avlon. How will we distinguish . I guess ill have to say last names. Good evening to both of you. Mr. Harwood, President Biden trying to restore access to health care, pushing hard behind the scenes to get a covid Relief Package through on the heels of dismal economic news. Where do negotiations stand tonight . Well, theyve got a ways to go. Theres a lot of details that are going to get changed, and its unclear what the composition of the final coalition behind the legislation will be. But one thing that both the biden white house, democrats in congress, their outside allies are increasingly confident of is that theyre going to get a very large bill, if not precisely joe bidens 1. 9 trillion, something close to that. And that potentially has a huge impact on the country and on the biden presidency. It will speed the end of the pandemic with the funds for the vaccines and testing and all the steps needed to try to get the pandemic under control. It will sustain people who are hurting, who are jobless, through the next few months while we get to the end. And it will lift the overall economy. Economists tell me, don, that passing of this bill or something close to this bill will take the 4 growth we expect for this year and turn it into 6 growth, that it will restore the u. S. Economy to full employment by the end of 2022 instead of 2023. That is a tremendous upside for joe biden and for democrats as they look ahead to 2022 midterm elections in which their majorities are going to be threatened. So mr. Avlon, you next. Republicans are giving Key Committee assignments to Conspiracy Theorists like Marjorie Taylor greene, Who Spouts Racist and xenophobic lies. Thats quite the contrast. Its as stark as it gets and it says too much about the state of our politics today. Marjorie Taylor Greene getting a seat on the Education Committee when shes, you know, enflamed Conspiracy Theories about school shootings. The question is whats too much . And the actions of the Republican Leadership is to say, well, you know, we really need to cool down internal dissent, treating liz cheney and Adam Kinzinger and someone equally divisive and antireason as Marjorie Taylor greene. Thats the problem. You got to deal with the problem in the party, and they seem totally unwilling to and still afraid of donald trump from lame duck status at maralago. John harwood, countless republicans have remained silent about greenes dangerous lies. Is it time to admit the party is more in line with Marjorie Taylor greene than mitt romney or rob portman or, as you just mentioned, Adam Kinzinger . Well, the Republican Party right now is not an optimistic party. Its not a hopeful party. Its not a party with plans to build for the future. Its a very dark party. Its consumed by negative emotion, anger, bitterness, fear. The voting base of the party are people who feel like the changes in the culture and the economy are passing them by. Theyre angry about it. They want to lash out. That produces a lot of conspiratorial paranoia. Thats what Marjorie Taylor greene and people like her in the party represent. That is not what people like rob portman and mitt romney represent. And if youre going to succeed in this Republican Party, you have got to galvanize very dark emotions. They dont have much of a positive program. They have a grievance agenda. And if you dont share that agenda, youre not going to go very far in this current Republican Party. Youre right, especially when if comes to things like health care. For decades have tried to just kill it but then no plan. John avlon, the House Minority leader, Kevin Mccarthy, traveling to florida today to meet with trump. Hes looking for trumps help in 2022, but why didnt the gop learn their lesson with the Georgia Runoffs . I mean trump is only out for himself. Its stockholm syndrome. Look, donald trump was disastrous for the Republican Party by any rational measure. They lost the senate. They lost the presidency. They lost the house. They lost seats overall. Their base is shrinking. Trump is the only president to be impeached twice for inciting insurrection, and theyre still lining up to kiss the ring. It speaks to the danger of polarization. The party is so off center, theyre afraid they cant win elections unless they play to the crazy. Thats a real problem not just for republicans but for our democracy. Thats what we need to deal with, you know. Frankly, more republicans should grow a spine and recognize that the people who called out inciting an insurrection should be the leaders of the party. No one thought donald trump could overturn the bush the policies of the bush presidencies, but he did. So actually take a risk and do the right thing. You might just find its the smart thing politically as john mccain used to say. Gentlemen, thank you so much. Ill see you soon. All right. Take care, man. Joining me now, leon panetta, the former defendant secretary and former cia director. Thank you, secretary. I appreciate your time and of course your expertise in advance. There is this january 6th insurrection. The Homeland Security bulletin says that extremists are emboldened and now the Capitol Police, they want permanent fencing around the capitol. Are you worried about more attacks . I dont think theres any questions that on january 6th, we crossed a line with those who attacked the capitol and killed and destroyed property and brought our democracy to a halt. And i think that that event could very well empower additional terrorism in the future. Yeah. Lets talk about some of the folks who were arrested. One of them u. S. Capitol Police Arrested was a West Virginia man armed with a handgun and ammo. He had Stop The Steal paperwork. He had a list of lawmakers. Do lawmakers have real reason to worry . Absolutely. You know, my youngest son is in congress. He took my place in the district here on Central California that i used to represent, and i worry about him because i think every member has to be concerned when there are extremists Walking Around with lists of names of Members Of Congress that theyre targeting. They do need security, and im glad that the capitol looks luke its doing a better job of trying to provide better security than they did on january 6th. Well, lets talk more about that because obviously Speaker Pelosi is concerned. She said today that the enemy is within. She says that shes referring to Members Of Congress who want to bring guns on the floor or who have threatened violence against other members. What does it say about where this country is right now, worried about threats inside the walls of the congress from their fellow Congress People . You know, i think the American People have to be worried about just how fragile our democracy is. You know, i think all of us love our country, but we all recognize that in order for our democracy to survive, were going to have to respect one another and listen to one another and try to stop this anger and this polarization that is breaking us apart. And if we dont break this mode that were in right now, thats not only making our government dysfunctional, its tearing away at our democracy, i think that i think if we dont action to deal with this, all of us, that our democracy may not survive what were seeing today. You know, speaking of that, because this is im not sure what kind of territory. People say this is uncharted territory or whatever, but my colleague shim sciutto, hes covered International Terrorism for 20 years and says that the parallels to the domestic Terror Threat are frightening. And he points to and i quote here radicalization online, demonization of the enemy to justify violence, draw to a cause greater than themselves, devotion to a cultish leader. That said, are we doing enough to combat this threat . Well, i worry about that because as cia director, obviously i had to deal with foreign terrorism in the shape of bin laden and al qaeda, who had attacked our country. And the fact is that terrorism has some similar characteristics. Usually a leader of some kind who wants to take advantage of grievances. Its usually built on a lie of some sort, and the kind of lie we saw on january 6th was that somehow the election had been stolen. And people are encouraged to commit terror, to attack the very symbols of our power. And so there are some similar characteristics here between foreign and domestic terrorism, and it means that we have to take both of these threats very seriously. I want to quote from the center for strategic and international studies, a report that they have. The right wing Terrorist Attacks caused 335 deaths in the country. Liftwing attacks caused 22 deaths. Their analysis ends in may of 2020, and we have obviously seen more violence since then. There is no question that the real threat is where this real threat is coming from. All you have to do is look at the numbers and the facts. No, there is no question that we are facing a very serious threat within our country just as 9 11 was a wakeup call to deal with foreign terrorism. January 6th is very much a wakeup call that we have to confront domestic terrorism. It is serious. Its on the rise. We saw what happened on january 6th. We see what these extremists are saying and doing online, and it means that we cannot underestimate the threat that were confronting. Weve got to be ready for it. We not only have to prepare for the expected, we have to prepare for the unexpected as well. Secretary panetta, always a pleasure. Thank you so much. Good to talk to you. The gop itching to kick liz cheney to the curb. Kevin mccarthy is going to maralago to kiss the ring. Is that what the Republican Party really wants to be . Stag. Im cologuard. Im noninvasive and detect altered dna in your stool to find 92 of Colon Cancers even in early stages. Tell me more. Its for people 45 plus at average risk for colon cancer, not high risk. False positive and negative results may occur. Ask your prescriber or an online prescriber if cologuard is right for you. Ill do it. Good plan. The previous president focusing his Political Energy on targeting liz cheney. The third ranking House Republican who voted for his impeachment earlier this month. One source telling cnn trump has repeatedly questioned his republican allies about efforts to run a primary candidate against her. Those efforts already under way in cheneys home state of wyoming. Cnns lucy kafanov has more. Reporter amidst the frigid beauty, wyoming politics are red hot and getting ugly. Wyoming is trump country. The former president beat joe biden here by more than 40 points, the largest margin in any state. So when congresswoman liz cheney voted to impeach trump, it caused immediate blowback at h home. Shelly horn has never thought of herself as political, but after cheneys vote, she started a petition to get her out of office. Im just amazed. Like its at 52,000, and its been seen by 586,000 people. Reporter cheney describes her vote as a matter of conscience. Horn calls it a betrayal. You just cant go, i need to vote with my conscience. No. Vote for what your people put you in there to do. Youre a republican. Youre supposed to back your party regardless. Reporter a handful of gop County Committees have voted to censure cheney, and state senator Anthony Bouchard has already launched a 2022 campaign against her. The wyoming gop lashing out, saying the consensus is clear that those who are reaching out to the party vehemently disagree with representative cheneys decision and actions. Ch cheneys foes in congress are also taking aim. Florida republican matt gaetz is positioning himself as the bearer of the trump brand. If you want to prove that you have the power, defeat liz cheney in this upcoming election, and wyoming will bring washington to its knees. Reporter a source in cheneys office dismissed the gaetz event as a publicity stunt, linking to this clip from the swamp when the congresswoman talked about getting ready for an appearance. The source saying ahead of the visit that gaetz can, quote, leave his beauty back in home. In wyoming, the men dont wear makeup. But in wyoming, the Energy Industry pays the bills. Both the petroleum and mining associations have come out in support of cheney. We need a voice in washington to continue to defend our industry, and thats going to be more important now than it has been in the last few years because, you know, President Bidens not going to be friendly to us. I dont hear anything about committee assignments. Its just kabuki theater. Reporter taylor hanes, a retired doctor, cattle rancher, and businessman doesnt care that cheneys the third highest ranking republican in the house. In my view, shes done in wyoming. Trumps the most successful, effective president in my adult life. Were going down the trump road, and thats where we are. Reporter with the primaries 18 months away, cheney has time, not to mention money, influence, and name recognition. The cheneys are a huge brand in wyoming. Dick cheney is one of the people who brought the state to Real National relevance. Reporter supporters like donna say shell judge cheney on the future, not the past. Give her a chance. Lets let this administration go on and see how liz stands up and represents our people. Reporter lucy cav november, cnn, wyoming. Joining me is republican strategist sarah longwell. This isnt just wyoming. The House Minority leader went down to florida to meet with the former president today to talk election strategy. There was a chance to, you know, make or break, but thats not but they are not taking it. Why is that . I mean, i think the answer is that they are scared of donald trump, and theyre scared of his voters. But they should get past that because they are putting themselves in a rock and a hard place. This Impeachment Vote is their offramp. This is their best chance to put a stake through Donald Trumps political future. If they dont take it, donald trump is going to control this party for the next ten years, and its going to become the party of Marjorie Taylor greene and people like liz cheney, you just look at somebody like rob portman or pat toomey, people who are retiring because they dont think theres a place for them in this party anymore. Thats not just dangerous for the Republican Party, its an existential threat to the country to have one of the two Major Political parties controlled by people who are out there spreading Conspiracy Theories. And im not talking about Marjorie Taylor greene there. Im talking about Kevin Mccarthy and matt gaetz and so many others in congress who voted to object to a free and fair election, who told voters that it was stolen from them, who followed donald trump, and it led to a violent attack on the capitol. So republicans Mitch Mcconnell should be whipping his Senate Caucus and telling them, this is our chance. It it is our chance to be done with donald trump and put him in the rearview. But i am worried. I am worried that is not the direction theyre going to go. You know, sarah, youve been on the show before to talk about your focus groups of republican voters. What are you hearing from gop voters now . Is this what they want . You know, its interesting. I actually did just do a group of 2016 trump voters, but who rated him as doing a very bad job the whole

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