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CNN Erin Burnett OutFront July 11, 2024

Im erin burnett. Out front tonight, the breaking news. Shes out. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene has officially been removed from both the education and budget committees. Those Key Committees. But only 11 republicans made a move for her to lose that position. Only 11 Republicans Holding her accountable for her fringe Conspiracy Theories and dangerous rhetoric. These 11 include Adam Kinzinger and brian fitzpatrick. They joined 219 democrats who Vote Today Strip Greene from her assignments object the education and budget committees. Let me just do the math for you. What that means is that 199 republicans looked the other way when it came to punishing greene for her bigoted and deranged comments and views. They represent nearly every state. They include Kevin Mccarthy and liz cheney, the number three House Republican. These elected officials gave greene and these comments their stamp of approval. The socalled plane that crashed into the pentagon, its odd, there is never any evidence shown for a plane in the pentagon. There is an islamic invasion into our Government Offices right now. Kennedy getting killed in the plane crash, thats another one of those clinton murders, right . The 199 republicans still backing greene even though she repeatedly indicated support for execut exec executing prominent democrats before being elected to congress, theyre okay with reports of hanging president obama. And they support her calls for Political Violence over the past two years. The first that you see here uncovered by mother jones. The only way you get your freedoms back is its earned with the price of blood. If we flood the capitol building, flood all the government buildings, go inside, these are public buildings. We own them. We own these buildings. That last comment, 2019. And now today before the vote, greene tried to explain herself on the house floor insisting that her record is not her record. She scclaimed that 9 11 happene. Can you believe someone actually had to go on the floor today and say, i actually think 9 11 happened . She went and said that because she has said, quote, its odd theres never any evidence shown for a plane in the pentagon. You heard her say it. She also said today, had to go to the floor to say School Shootings are absolutely real. She had to say that. Because she has called Parkland High School shooting survivor david hogg whom she controlled and harassed a paid actor. She has supported Facebook Comments that alleged the sandy hook shooting that killed six adults and 20 children, little tiny children, was a staged event. And she also tried to rewrite history when it comes to supporting qanon. Later in 2018, when i started finding misinformation, lies, things that were not true in these qanon posts, i stopped believing it. I never once said during my entire campaign, qanon. I never once said any of the things that i am being accused of today during my campaign. I never said any of these things since i have been elected for congress. That is not factual. She continued to defend qanon during the campaign and after she was elected to congress. Here she is. In the video you say, quote, q is a patriot. Do you believe that . Is that what you believe . Ive only ever seen patriotic sentiment coming out of that source and other sources. Theres never been any dangerous rhetoric coming out of people like that. I think its unfair to criticize regular American People that just, just are looking things up on the internet. Defending qanon followers, and they and they were among the people seen at the stop the steal rally. They were part of the insurrection at the u. S. Capitol that left five people dead yet republican leader Kevin Mccarthy wants to give Marjorie Taylor greene another chance. He says her words now should bring republicans comfort. I think it would be helpful if you could hear exactly what she told all of us. Denouncing qanon. I dont know if i said it right. Im sorry. He literally stood there and acted and said he doesnt know if hes saying it right. I mean, this is really come on. Before greene was elected, mccarthy was able to say the groups name with no problem. Let me be very clear. There is no place for qanon in the Republican Party. No place for qanon in the Republican Party. Until there was. And is. Manu raju is out front on capitol hill. So, manu, what more are you learning tonight as this vote went down . Reporter well, the number of Republic Carnes who voted for t republicans who vote today strip marjorie greene, it wasnt the same number of voters to impeach donald trump. Ten vote today impeach President Trump. Congresswoman liz cheney who just survived a schal to her leadership post last night, she clearly siding with the concerns raised by the other republicans they dont believe in this process, and their belief that it sets a precedent where a Majority Party can go after a Minority Party and use it and wield it to their advantage in the future. Something that really has not been done before. But a handful of republicans did break ranks despite the pressure from Top Republican leaders to fall in line. Some of those republicans were from South Florida, from the home of parkland, florida. Thats where the massacre occurred at that high school in 2018. Something Marjorie Taylor greene suggested was a false flag operation until today. She said that those massacres actually took place. Those members, including congressman diazbalart who is from South Florida, he voted against this resolution im sorry, voted for this resolution on the floor joined with a couple of other South Florida republicans. Now the question Going Forward is how does the republican conference go from here. If you talk to people very close to Kevin Mccarthy, the House Republican leader, they are happy this is done with. They believe that what the democrats did in moving forward essentially took it off their plate. They can let the democrats move forward to take her out of the committees, unite behind what they believe is an unfair process, and believe that would be enough to get their party united, get their party behind they have liz cheney in her Conference Position and worry about their next confrontation Going Forward. But, erin, as we know, its not going to be that easy. A lot of questions remain including Senate Republicans who are very critical of the way the senate House Republican leadership dealt with this. Erin . Thank you very much, manu. And, of course, the process point its a fair point. Its also sad that we are in a position where the only republicans saying this isnt okay seem to be there were a few crossovers, but there were people from places where there were School Shootings or impacted by 9 11. Saying they didnt happen was a bridge too far. They were the only ones willing to say that. Out front, congressman hakeem jeffries, i appreciate your time, congressman. So, the numbers here, 11 republicans voting to remove greene from her committees. Even some who Vote Today Impeach Trump voted against this measure. Were you surprised . Well, it didnt surprise me actually that there were only 11 individuals who saw fit to hold Marjorie Taylor greene accountable because theyre taking direction from the House Republican leader, Kevin Mccarthy, who has been absent without officially, missing in action in terms of providing leadership in an ethical way that brings people together as opposed to what Kevin Mccarthy is doing, which is continuing to pander to the farright elements of his party. The House Republican conference has been taken over by the qanon caucus, the crackpot caucus, and the conspiracy caucus at the same time. The party of lincoln is gone. The party of regan is gone. The party of john mccain is gone. This is now the party of Marjorie Taylor greene. So, you heard what greene said on the floor today, congressman. She said she found qanon while surfing on the internet and she says she now believes, quote, School Shootings are absolutely real, end quote, 9 11 absolutely happened. I still am dumfounded that such a thing would need to be said in any capacity in congress. When she said that, what was your reaction . I had no reaction because at the end of the day, i think she was directed to say that by Kevin Mccarthy and House Republican leadership who tried to get themselves out of this situation because of their own failure of leadership. And they want to disassociate themselves from her extreme views without disassociating themselves from her as an individual congress person. And theyre not going to be able to get away with that. What is more troubling is that she continues to refuse to disassociate herself from some of the views connected to her promotion of violence directed at members of congress, or a former highranking elected officials like barack obama or hillary clinton. Well, she said on the eve of this, i just want to remind everybody, we played it last night. I mean, she played it so sebastian gorka, she said i have nothing to apologize for when he specifically asked her if she was sorry for any of the things she said. He even listed some of them including 9 11 conspiracy theory. I want to ask you, congressman, about one of the 11 republicans who voted to impeach trump. Congressman Jamie Herrera butler. She voted against this, right. Shes not on the list here of 11. This is the issue of precedent. She said she doesnt want to he kanga create a new precedent. They are listing all the democrats you guys should be punishing all of these they have a whole list of people they think should be removed from committees. Theyre saying, look, once one party gets power, you can kick the other people off committees. Thats a very dangerous precedent. Thats liz cheneys reason for being on the other side on this one. Whats your response to that . The Line In The Sand has to be the promotion and elevation of violence directed at your colleagues or other americans. And as Speaker Pelosi indicated in a very clear way earlier today, that if a democrat ever promoted violence or associated themselves with sentiments encouraging violence against other americans or republicans or president s and individuals who are serving, that she would be the first person to kick them off of their committees. And i would join her in that regard. So, before we go, i want to ask you about impeachment. Today the house Impeachment Letter sent a letter to President Trump asking him to testify. His team said, no way. Now the question is whether you all will subpoena him. Democratic senator joe manchin was noncommittal on whether hed support such a subpoena if the House Managers made that request. You know, his comment was it could be a dog and pony show if trump showed up there. Whats your view on this . Do you think trumps testimony could derail this whole thing . Well, i dont want to get out ahead of the Impeachment Managers who have laid out, you know, a clear strategic approach, and they have requested the president s testimony apparently is refusing at this particular point in time, im not sure if they are going to make an argument he should be subpoenaed. I do believe that the evidence of Donald Trumps guilt is hiding in plain sight. He incited that violent attack on the capitol that resulted in the spilling of american blood, including the death of officer sicknick. Thats an extraordinary thing that we have a former president of the United States who helped to lead the charge. He summoned the mob, then he incited the mob, then he directed the mob to march on the capitol with deadly results. And so i think with or without his testimony, there is a lot of compelling evidence that the Impeachment Managers will present. And if the senators on the republican side of the aisle follow the facts, apply the law, are guided by the constitution, i believe that he should be convicted. I appreciate your time, congressman. Thank you very much. Congressman hakeem jeffries. And i want to go now to michael smerconish. Michael, talking with the congressman, you have 11 republicans voting to remove gr greene. Just to give everyone context u 11 vote to remove greene, 61 vote today remove liz cheney from her leadership position. Let that number sink into people. What is going on here . Well, i see republican inconsistency in the last couple of days that i think is pretty significant, and i think i can explain it. Superficially you can say, well, the gop in the last 48 hours protected two very different members and left them in the fold. Liz cheney and Marjorie Taylor greene. But here are the numbers that im looking at. 139 republicans voted to challenge the Electoral College back on january 6. Thats almost the same number, 145, that Behind Closed Doors voted to protect liz cheney. And i think those votes are entirely inconsistent. How can you be someone who wants to overturn the Electoral College, very trumpian, and then turn around Behind Closed Doors and support cheney . Who Vote Today Impeach Trump. The answer is who is watching. It depends who is watching. If you think you can get away with a vote of conscience, i. E. , protect can cheney, then you do it. Now we come full circle to tonight where in the plain light of day, what do the republicans do . All but 11 to appease the base, they lined up. And, by the way, the early polling data axios today suggests that cheney is less popular than Marjorie Taylor greene. So that explains it with the base. Okay. Yeah, it explains, i suppose, in a way that deeply confuses me in so many ways. But let me ask you, then, to this point. Republican senator mitt romney tells cnn the house gop leader Kevin Mccarthy made a mistake, his word, mistake, in the handling of Marjorie Taylor greene. But given what youre saying, you think romney is right . I think that romney is not afraid of the base. He was one of the five to oppose rand paul. Theres more independence in the senate because theyre not at the whim of populism the way the house, every twoyear elections are. I know its confusing the way that i presented it, but what im really trying to say simply is that these republicans are intent on one thing, reelection, and to get reelection they think that they need to honor the whims of the base. So, so i dont know if you just heard hakeem jeffries, but he was just saying that nancy pelosi has made it clear that if any democrat did what Marjorie Taylor greene did, specifically in advocating violence against anyone, that he would join her to kick that democrat off any committee. So thats their response when asked about the precedent that they could be setting by removing a republican with democratic votes. The reason liz cheney did not vote to remove Marjorie Taylor greene is her concern about that precedent. Does that reason that jeffries and pelosi are giving add up . Or do you think this is indeed a dangerous precedent . Im so glad that you raised this because on radio this week ive gotten the occasional caller asking about what aboutism. What about ilhan omar. What about maxine waters. What about all these, quoteunquote, outrageous statements from the left. But i am taking Speaker Pelosi at her word that the greene case is so extraordinary that the totality of all of these comments is such and i will be the first to shout from the rafters if there is similar conduct on the left and its not disciplined. This case is beyond the pale. Ive been paying attention for 30 years. Ive never seen someone with these views that are so public get elected to the congress. Right, its incredible. And then to your point, its what is the call of conscience from those who are now her peers to call her to account if voters did not, and a lot of this, by the way, was out there, but a lot of it is, our Martin Savage reported, a lot of people did not know when they voted. Who knows where this will go. It was not known to many people at the time of voting. Thank you very much, i appreciate your time, michael. Thank you. Next Pr

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