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A lowprofile trump employee entangled in trumps highprofile criminal case. This morning former President Trumps newest codefendant a maralago property manager will be arraigned in the criminal classified documents case. Cnn is live in miami with details. We are ready to go, georgia officials wrapping up an investigation into Donald Trumps efforts to overturn the Election Results there, charges could come any day. And at least four people are dead and dozens more injured after russia launched a pair of missiles into central ukraine. Kate bolduan is off, im sara sidner with john berman. This is cnn news central. Happening this morning, a maralago property manager accused of trying to delete Security Footage from the trump resort in the classified documents case will be arraigned in a miami court. Carlos de oliveira is the third person indicted in this case after investigators subpoenaed the maralago security video last year, de oliveira allegedly told the resorts i. T. Director that the boss wanted the server deleted. That is according to the indictment. De oliveira is described as someone outside of the former president s inner circle and several people tell cnn that he is not someone who is known by trumps close confidants. Cnn spoke to one of de oliveiras Family Members and they say he likely didnt realize the consequences of what thump was telling him to do and was probably just being loyal to his boss. Cnn correspondent randi kaye is for us there in miami. What do we know about the charges against de oliveira there . Reporter good morning, sara. We are learning much more about the charges against him. We know that he is accused of being part of that plot to try to delete Security Camera footage from the Maralago Club that would allegedly include asking this i. T. Worker how long the video stays on the server according to the indictment and telling him as you say that the boss wanted the server deleted. Hes facing conspiracy to obstruct justice, one charge for that is correct also a charge of making false statements and two counts of concealing or destroying an object. So he will be appearing here in court shortly. At the center of these new allegations is yet another Maralago Club employee, an i. T. Worker by the name of taveras. We understand that he was the person who Carlos De Oliveira was speaking with when asking about how to delete the video from the server. Sources telling cnn that some of the new allegations against trump and his aide walt nauta as well as Carlos De Oliveira are coming from information at least in part that this i. T. Worker had given during a conversation with the fbi. We can tell you, though, that taveras has not been charged and its unclear how much he is cooperating but apparently some of that information is coming from him. Can you give us some sense of what might happen this morning with de oliveira . Reporter de oliveira is going to be appearing in court with his attorney that we know of right now who is john irving, he is a washington, d. C. Based attorney. Its unclear if hes actually going to be arraigned or just going to make an appearance because he does need a floridabarred lawyer to have his full arraignment. If he doesnt have a florida lawyer, it doesnt appear that there is one at least right now on the docket, then his case could be delayed, which of course could have a real impact on when donald trump could go to trial in this case and how that will work and if that will happen before election day, sara. Randi kaye, always good to see you. Thank you for that. Big day were watching closely, were looking to see his face among other things this morning when he walks in. Randi brought up the case of Employee Number four, right, which sheds some light on how the Special Counsel is building its case. It turns out the Special Counsels office sent a Target Letter to tavares back in june, he oversees maralagos surveillance cameras. He did receive that Target Letter and he did testify before the grand jury and he talked about the exchange with Carlos De Oliveira about scrubbing Security Surveillance from the server. It is notable that while he was told he was a target, he has not been charged. Cnns Etvan Perez Following Thi for us. Employee number four, pretty intriguing questions surrounding him. Thats right. Were beginning another week of waiting to see if the former president has yet another federal indictment, this of course in his efforts to remain in power after the 2020 election. But were learning more about the most recent indictment, the one that was superseded recently with these new details about taveras. He is identified as Employee Number four and whats key here is that prosecutors sent him a Target Letter which was a warning essentially that hes about to be charged and it is after that, and this of course came after the former president was first indicted, so its after that that we know tavares went in and gave information that we know is now part of that key pennsylvania that weve been citing, this is the one where he talks to de oliveira, asking him how much time is saved on the server, these Surveillance Videos and him basically responding that, you know, he didnt really have the authority to do that. So we dont know whether we can call tevaras a cooperator here at this point, but we do know that certainly what he said to prosecutors ended up being part of that key pennsylvania that you see there. The former president of course finally responding to some of this over the weekend with some very angry posts on social media, on his platform there, he says that these Security Tapes were not deleted and he also points out that he never told anyone to delete them. He says this is prosecutorial fiction, misconduct and of course election interference. This is what weve heard more recently from the former president in his own defense, john. So, evan, lets talk about the timeline in the january 6th investigation about whether an indictment could be coming there. Really it could happen any day, previously the grand jury meets tuesdays and thursdays so we will be keeping our eyes out tomorrow but at the same time we heard from bernie keriks attorneys, bernie kerik the former nypd Police Commissioner who worked closely with Rudy Giuliani that hes still scheduled to speak with prosecutors potentially days from now. How does that work into the timeline of a pending indictment . Yeah, look, i mean, part of what weve been kind of wrestling with, were trying to figure out we know that the former president was now told more than two weeks ago that he was a target of this investigation and that that was an indication that he certainly could be charged very soon, but the fact that bernie kerik, who is an important witness, he has information that was only recently turned over, as a matter of fact, last weekend was when his lawyers turned over information that prosecutors had been looking to get, again, looking at wkeriks role was wih Rudy Giuliani, trying to come up with proof of fraud of which we know there was none. He is going to meet with prosecutors in the coming days. We dont know whether this means this indictment is put off for a little while longer or whether they already have what they need and bernie kerik is more about other people that could also face charges, john. Very interesting questions and possibilities there. Evan perez, keep us posted. Dont go far over these next few days. Appreciate it. Sara . Now to georgia where we heard these words, our work is accomplished and were ready to go. Those words are from the Fulton County da in georgia about her teams investigation into Donald Trumps alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election in that state. Security has been ramped up at the courthouse ahead of the impending announcement about a possible indictment. The da says that decision is coming within weeks. Cnns sara murray joins us now. Can you give us a sense of what other Security Precautions are being taken after you did this really great documentary on how we got here. Reporter well, thank you for that. Look, we have already seen some barricades going up around the Fulton County courthouse and i suspect that in the upcoming days and weeks were going to see a much harder Security Perimeter here. Today is also the first day that Fulton County District Attorney fani willis has instructed much of her staff to begin working from home. She set out a number of days for them to do so between now and the end of august, days where the grand jury would normally be meeting and shes also asked judges who convene trials, convene hearings at this courthouse behind me to consider canceling those or holding those virtually later on in this month, all part of her effort to sort of lock things down around the perimeter and have as few people as possible working out of these buildings when there is a potential announcement about indictments, sara. Just to be clear those sirens behind you have nothing to do with this as we understand it. I do want to ask you just quickly, sara, about how this is going to work Going Forward and when you expect there might be some announcement of a potential indictment. Reporter thats right. I mean, i still think we are looking at in the next couple of weeks, probably not in the next couple of days. There is a hearing in this case where trumps team is trying to get fani willis disqualified from the case, trying to get a bunch of the evidence thrown out on august 9th. Our local affiliate caught up with her over the weekend where she was clear that even though her moves may annoy some people, that her investigation is ready to go. Some people may not be happy with the decisions that i was making and sometimes when people are unhappy they act in a way that could create harm. The work is accomplished, ive been working for two and a half years and were ready to go. Reporter so shes aware there may be some blow back but clearly its full speed ahead in the next couple of weeks. We will see what she has to announce. Sara murray outside that court in atlanta. John . With us now caroline polisi. Counselor, i want to go back to whats happening in florida today in the next few minutes where Carlos De Oliveira will show up for his arraignment. We learned over the weekend that Employee Number four was this man tevaras who man the Security Footage. He got a Target Letter in june, talked with prosecutors, has not been charged. So Target Letter, yet no charges. What can we glean from that . Its pretty obvious while it hasnt officially been confirmed yet it does appear that tevaras is cooperating, were not sure if its a capital c but it appears hes cooperating with jack smith and his team. As you said, he got that Target Letter, however i mean, its not the government could supersede again and certainly add him, but i think its interesting they referred to him as Employee Number four in the superseding indictment, not typically if there is a coconspirator they would refer to him as such. You say cooperating unclear whether its a capital c. What are the different forms of cooperation . A real Cooperation Agreement would indicate i mean, there are all sorts of procedures that go along with that, but basically it would include some sort of reduced sentence for tevaras. Now, it does appear, as you note, that the only way that, you know, prosecutors could have received this information is from tevaras. Theres this Bombshell Information seems like its out of a Mob Movie Where De Oliveira is telling tevaras to essentially delete the Security Tamara footage. Now, he says its coming straight from the boss. We dont have, you know, a firsthand account of that conversation between donald trump and de oliveira so, you know, the implication could be that the government is putting the squeeze on really to get somebody else to flip. One other data point is that tevaras switched lawyers. Yeah. Now, its unclear who is paying for his lawyer now, but the lawyer he did have also represented walt nauta. Yeah. Who is a codefendant in this case. So what does it tell us that he had to sort of deconflict there . There was a conflict obviously. A lot of people are making a big deal out of the fact that the trump pac is paying for so many of, you know, the trump affiliates the trump affiliates that have been indicted in these various cases. Its not necessarily a legal conflict for it happens all the time that employers pay for their employees defense, you know, its just notable that it seems to be the case that when, you know, a trump lawyer is advising one of these affiliates they tend not to flip, they tend to then be indicted. Notable that tevaras switched attorneys and thereafter it appears he began cooperating. At a minimum it shows that his interests and walt nautas interests dont necessarily align, if there were no conflict the same lawyer could represent them. Absolutely. Today Carlos De Oliveira shows up for this arraignment. Anything unusual that can happen today . Is this mostly procedural . This is absolutely a procedural sort of hearing today. He will if he can find local counsel, which, you know, its unclear fell be able to, just he will enter the plea of not guilty thereafter the case will move forward. I do think its interesting that the government superseding and is adding these defendants, it could impact the trial Date Set For May 2024. The addition of these additional defendants could potentially kick that back. Will we learn that today . Absolutely not. Its interesting that the government didnt tell the judge that they planned to supersede when they were, you know, jockeying back and forth for the trial date. Caroline polisi, thank you so much. How were the recent developments against donald trump affecting his campaign. The results show trump pulling far ahead of his rivals. Plus more Drone Attacks in mos moscow. Dramatic video there. 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