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Indictment. This one handed up this week charges trump with four counts related to subverting the result of the 2020 election. Paula reid has more. Reporter former President Trump is expected to come here to washington to appear in person for this hearing which is expected to be both an initial appearance and also an arraignment. It is unclear if well see him arrive because this federal courthouse, it is designed to deal with people who have Security Details and vips. So it would be easy for him to pull into the underground garage and we wont get to see him at all. But once he is inside the federal courthouse where of course there are no cameras, he is effectively under arrest and it is expected that he will be processed like any other defendant but we dont expect a mug shot because those are used to identify suspects if they go on the lam. But this will be a quick procedural hearing. It will be in front of a magistrate judge. This is expected that he will hear the charges, have the opportunity to enter a plea, and it should all be over pretty quickly and this will be the third time that he has done this this year alone. So he should know what to expect. Paula reid, cnn, washington. The law sees donald trump as just another citizen like anyone else, but of course from a Security Standpoint the former president is not like anyone else. The Secret Service did a walkthrough at the washington courthouse ahead of trumps appearance there today. Brian todd has more on the special arrangements being made. Reporter the Nations Capital now in an enhanced Security Posture ahead of former President Trumps arraignment on thursday. D. C. Police saying that they are working closely with our federal Law Enforcement partners to monitor the situation and plan accordingly. The u. S. District courthouse at least temporarily being turned into a fortress. They are going to have a surge of manpower around this building. Reporter cnn is told multiple agencies are combining forces to secure the appearance including the Secret Service, d. C. Metropolitan police, u. S. Marshals, capitol police. And Law Enforcement has been looking closely at Online Platforms where threats could come from. Find out what is going on social media, what are they hearing in the street, will they have protestors show up. They will be checking with Bus Companies to see whether or not buses have been rented to come into d. C. Hotel reservations. Reporter cnn is told that Law Enforcement has been patrolling the area outside the courthouse this week along with Bomb Sniffing Dogs and have established a Security Perimeter around the building. Trumps previous two indictments in manhattan and miami have seen more of a carnival atmosphere, but since the events have often drawn a mix of supporters and critics, thursday could still be a potentially volatile situation. You have to keep the groups apart or you could have chaos. Reporter this is a city well versed in the highly charged atmosphere that donald trump can create after the 2020 election, there were clashes and even violence between partisan groups at two stop the steal rallies in washington and the january 6 riot at the capitol took place just a few blocks from the d. C. Courthouse where trump will appear. What is the biggest lesson that Law Enforcement learned from january 6 . To do more than just send an email out. Old fashioned pick up the phone and talk to a body and let them know how operationally relevant it is the information that you have. Reporter and there is the question of trumps safety. One former secret Service Agent says he will likely not be brought in through a sidewalk entrance. When it is very public event, you prefer covered arrivals. Less exposure to the public on the sidewalk. Reporter so far sources tell cnn there is nothing to indicate an active threat to this u. S. District courthouse where trump will be arraigned. The Secret Service pledging the highest level of safety and security for the former president while minimizing disruptions to the normal court process. Brian todd, cnn, washington. Former Attorney General bill barr is calling Donald Trumps efforts to overturn the 2020 election nauseating and despicable. One time trump loyalist telling Kaitlan Collins criminal or not, anyone who did what the indictment accuses trump of shouldnt be anywhere near the oval office. Do you think he knew that he lost the election . Do i personally believe that . At first i wasnt sure, but i have come to believe that he knew well that he had lost the election. And now, what i think is important is the government has assumed the burden of proving that. The government in their indictment takes the position that he had actual knowledge that he had lost the election and the election wasnt stole up through fraud. And they will have to prove that Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. Which is a high bar. That is a high bar. And that leads me to believe that they were only seeing the tip of the iceberg on this. You think jack smith has more. Yes, i would believe that he has a lot more. And that is one of the things that impressed me about the indictment. It was very spare and there were a lot of things he could have said in there and i think that there is a lot more to come and i think that they have a lot more evidence as to president s State Of Mind. You said youve come around to the idea that you do think he knew that he lost. Why have you come around to that . Number one, comments from people like bannon and stone before the election. Saying that he was going to claim it was stolen if he was falling behind on election night. And that that was the plan of action. I find those statements very troubling. And you see he does that on election night. And then the evidence that has come out since, Press Reports and the indictment. These were barrs first Public Comments since trump was indicted on tuesday. Meanwhile overseas, the State Department is now evacuating nonemergency personnel and Family Members from the u. S. Embassy in niger. The Biden Administration is joining with the french and italian governments pulling diplomats and staff out in the wake of the military coup. Larry madowo is following the story from nairobi and is joining us live. Larry, good to see you. Can you explain what triggered this partial evacuation of the u. S. Embassy here . Reporter main reason appears to be because of severe limited Flight Options since last wednesday when the military claims to have taken over power. They have restricted air space. And right now for instance it is niger independence day, there are some protests and the u. S. Worried that it could lead to unrest and political instability even though so far that has not happened. So the only personnel left at the u. S. Embassy are those dealing with u. S. Citizens emergency requests. Most of the embassy has scaled back down. President bazoum who was ousted, but he was assured that the u. S. Supports him. But this military seems to be reaching out to the wagner group. And they are meeting with the Military Leader in mali. And they talked about deepening the Security Cooperation in case niger has a Military Intervention which has been threatened. And he has been to burkina faso meeting with the Military Leader there and they dont want niger to be the new labor ew libya. And so a reach out to the wagner group which the u. S. State department is talking about. I would not be surprised to see wagner attempt to exploit this situation to their own advantage as they have attempted to exploit other situations in africa to their own advantage. And when i say their own advantage, i mean their own personal financial advantage as well as their attempt to expand their influence on the continent. Reporter wagner group operates in mali and also parts of sudan. So there is some Straight Line that can be drawn between these actions and potential entry into niger. President biden sending a message saying that he supports president bazoum and he should be released and reinstated and the u. S. Supports the friendship and democracy shared between the two countries. Larry madowo, thank you. Here in the United States in just a few hours, court will reconvene in pittsburgh to formally impose a Death Sentence on Robert Bowers. It represents a milestone on the long road to justice for the victims of the antisemitic massacre. Danny freeman has the story. Reporter after more than nine weeks of trial, over 100 witnesses and nearly five years since the shooting, a jury of five men and seven women unanimously voted to sentence Robert Bowers to death. The jury deliberated for ten hours. Today was the hardest day. And i think it was the hardest day for the jury too. It was a hard day for the judge. Im sure everyone here as we move on and see justice the Justice System work and just thankful for the jurors doing what they did. Reporter and survivors hugged each other in the courtroom, the judge presiding over the case choked up as he thanked the jury. Bowers only briefly looked up at the jurors. Returning a sentence of death is not a decision that comes easy, but we must hold accountable those who wish to commit such terrible acts of antisemitism, hate and violence. Reporter the verdict included a stunning rebuke of the Court Arguments to spare his life. Jurors were not convinced that bowers suffered from schizophrenia or was motivated by delusions and not a single juror believed that he committed the offenses under emotional disturbance. During the trial the prosecution detailed how bowers had been convinced of the antisemitic and antilatino white replacement conspiracy pushed by some on the extreme right. His defense team not commenting on the verdict. In contrast, the jurors unanimously agreed with federal prosecutors. The killing of 11 jewish wore worshippers was premeditated and he had no remorse. When people espouse bigoted views and pick up weapons and use them to kill or try to kill people because of their faith, our office and our partners in Law Enforcement will hold them accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Each and every time. Reporter formal sentencing is expected to happen thursday morning and during that proceedings, were also expecting to hear more impact statements from some of the victims who were impacted most by this shooting. Danny freeman, cnn, pittsburgh, pennsylvania. Coming in, an oregon woman escapes after being kidnapped and kept in a homemade dungeon. And details on where mark meadows might be, next. Cus is to always support the people who live and work there. Because you call these communities home, anand we do too. Pnc bank. Chevy silverado has what it takes to do it all with up to 13 cara views. 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Reporter before the mob raged, before police were beaten and lawmakers ran, there was white house Chief Of Staff mark meadows telling his aid Cassidy Hutchinson according to her testimony there is a lot going on, cass, but i dont know. Things might get real real bad on january 6. That evening was the first moment that i remember feeling scared. Reporter this is about donald trump and about actually going after him once again. Reporter if anyone knew then President Trumps plans for the lost election, it might have been meadows. I just want to find 11,780 votes. Reporter after all he joined that phone call when trump leaned on the top georgian official to overturn his loss there. We believe not every vote or fair vote and legal vote was counted. Reporter the latest Indictment Notes at one Point Meadows told trump the georgia officials were doing an exemplary job, but one day later trump called them terrible people cuffiovering up fraud. Ultimate checkses and balance is the congress pap. Reporter and Jim Jordan Messaged Meadows Insisting that mike pence should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional. And stop certification. Meadows response, i have pushed for this, not sure it is going to happen. And when the mob tried to violently force what pence would not, could not do, donald trump jr. Messaged that his father had to act and condemn this. Meadows replaied and i am pushig it hard. But saying little publicly, he sat down with the grand jury earlier this year and since then hes been even more tight lipped spurring some to wonder if what mark meadows is not saying speaks volumes. Looks like somebody who is cooperating with the federal government. Reporter it is not clear if meadows is cooperating with the feds or if he is in any sort of legal jeopardy himself. All that is clear is that lot of people in this town want to know what he is doing. Tom foreman, cnn, washington. Lets bring in legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson. Always good to see you even if it is very early in the morning here on the east coast. Lets start on that last point that if you are part of trumps legal team, how concerning is it to hear that mark meadows could be cooperating and is that sound logic if someone is cooperating they are more likely to be left off of an indictment like this if he was even considered in the first place . Yeah, so omar, good morning. The answer is that it is very concerning. When you look at any legal case, particularly this case against trump when you are focusing on the State Of Mind, you are trying to know what was the president thinking, what did he really believe. And then you look at the indictment which lays out in real detail that so many people at the highest level, director of national intelligence, your cybersecurity expert, Top White House lawyers were explaining to you, there was no fraud, mr. President. It goes on. So many people telling him that. And then you have mr. Meadows your Chief Of Staff who was with you, they would get you into the President Trump<\/a> is expected to come here to washington to appear in person for this hearing which is expected to be both an initial appearance and also an arraignment. It is unclear if well see him arrive because this federal courthouse, it is designed to deal with people who have Security Details<\/a> and vips. So it would be easy for him to pull into the underground garage and we wont get to see him at all. But once he is inside the federal courthouse where of course there are no cameras, he is effectively under arrest and it is expected that he will be processed like any other defendant but we dont expect a mug shot because those are used to identify suspects if they go on the lam. But this will be a quick procedural hearing. It will be in front of a magistrate judge. This is expected that he will hear the charges, have the opportunity to enter a plea, and it should all be over pretty quickly and this will be the third time that he has done this this year alone. So he should know what to expect. Paula reid, cnn, washington. The law sees donald trump as just another citizen like anyone else, but of course from a Security Standpoint<\/a> the former president is not like anyone else. The Secret Service<\/a> did a walkthrough at the washington courthouse ahead of trumps appearance there today. Brian todd has more on the special arrangements being made. Reporter the Nations Capital<\/a> now in an enhanced Security Posture<\/a> ahead of former President Trump<\/a>s arraignment on thursday. D. C. Police saying that they are working closely with our federal Law Enforcement<\/a> partners to monitor the situation and plan accordingly. The u. S. District courthouse at least temporarily being turned into a fortress. They are going to have a surge of manpower around this building. Reporter cnn is told multiple agencies are combining forces to secure the appearance including the Secret Service<\/a>, d. C. Metropolitan police, u. S. Marshals, capitol police. And Law Enforcement<\/a> has been looking closely at Online Platforms<\/a> where threats could come from. Find out what is going on social media, what are they hearing in the street, will they have protestors show up. They will be checking with Bus Companies<\/a> to see whether or not buses have been rented to come into d. C. Hotel reservations. Reporter cnn is told that Law Enforcement<\/a> has been patrolling the area outside the courthouse this week along with Bomb Sniffing Dogs<\/a> and have established a Security Perimeter<\/a> around the building. Trumps previous two indictments in manhattan and miami have seen more of a carnival atmosphere, but since the events have often drawn a mix of supporters and critics, thursday could still be a potentially volatile situation. You have to keep the groups apart or you could have chaos. Reporter this is a city well versed in the highly charged atmosphere that donald trump can create after the 2020 election, there were clashes and even violence between partisan groups at two stop the steal rallies in washington and the january 6 riot at the capitol took place just a few blocks from the d. C. Courthouse where trump will appear. What is the biggest lesson that Law Enforcement<\/a> learned from january 6 . To do more than just send an email out. Old fashioned pick up the phone and talk to a body and let them know how operationally relevant it is the information that you have. Reporter and there is the question of trumps safety. One former secret Service Agent<\/a> says he will likely not be brought in through a sidewalk entrance. When it is very public event, you prefer covered arrivals. Less exposure to the public on the sidewalk. Reporter so far sources tell cnn there is nothing to indicate an active threat to this u. S. District courthouse where trump will be arraigned. The Secret Service<\/a> pledging the highest level of safety and security for the former president while minimizing disruptions to the normal court process. Brian todd, cnn, washington. Former Attorney General<\/a> bill barr is calling Donald Trumps<\/a> efforts to overturn the 2020 election nauseating and despicable. One time trump loyalist telling Kaitlan Collins<\/a> criminal or not, anyone who did what the indictment accuses trump of shouldnt be anywhere near the oval office. Do you think he knew that he lost the election . Do i personally believe that . At first i wasnt sure, but i have come to believe that he knew well that he had lost the election. And now, what i think is important is the government has assumed the burden of proving that. The government in their indictment takes the position that he had actual knowledge that he had lost the election and the election wasnt stole up through fraud. And they will have to prove that Beyond A Reasonable Doubt<\/a>. Which is a high bar. That is a high bar. And that leads me to believe that they were only seeing the tip of the iceberg on this. You think jack smith has more. Yes, i would believe that he has a lot more. And that is one of the things that impressed me about the indictment. It was very spare and there were a lot of things he could have said in there and i think that there is a lot more to come and i think that they have a lot more evidence as to president s State Of Mind<\/a>. You said youve come around to the idea that you do think he knew that he lost. Why have you come around to that . Number one, comments from people like bannon and stone before the election. Saying that he was going to claim it was stolen if he was falling behind on election night. And that that was the plan of action. I find those statements very troubling. And you see he does that on election night. And then the evidence that has come out since, Press Reports<\/a> and the indictment. These were barrs first Public Comments<\/a> since trump was indicted on tuesday. Meanwhile overseas, the State Department<\/a> is now evacuating nonemergency personnel and Family Members<\/a> from the u. S. Embassy in niger. The Biden Administration<\/a> is joining with the french and italian governments pulling diplomats and staff out in the wake of the military coup. Larry madowo is following the story from nairobi and is joining us live. Larry, good to see you. Can you explain what triggered this partial evacuation of the u. S. Embassy here . Reporter main reason appears to be because of severe limited Flight Options<\/a> since last wednesday when the military claims to have taken over power. They have restricted air space. And right now for instance it is niger independence day, there are some protests and the u. S. Worried that it could lead to unrest and political instability even though so far that has not happened. So the only personnel left at the u. S. Embassy are those dealing with u. S. Citizens emergency requests. Most of the embassy has scaled back down. President bazoum who was ousted, but he was assured that the u. S. Supports him. But this military seems to be reaching out to the wagner group. And they are meeting with the Military Leader<\/a> in mali. And they talked about deepening the Security Cooperation<\/a> in case niger has a Military Intervention<\/a> which has been threatened. And he has been to burkina faso meeting with the Military Leader<\/a> there and they dont want niger to be the new labor ew libya. And so a reach out to the wagner group which the u. S. State department is talking about. I would not be surprised to see wagner attempt to exploit this situation to their own advantage as they have attempted to exploit other situations in africa to their own advantage. And when i say their own advantage, i mean their own personal financial advantage as well as their attempt to expand their influence on the continent. Reporter wagner group operates in mali and also parts of sudan. So there is some Straight Line<\/a> that can be drawn between these actions and potential entry into niger. President biden sending a message saying that he supports president bazoum and he should be released and reinstated and the u. S. Supports the friendship and democracy shared between the two countries. Larry madowo, thank you. Here in the United States<\/a> in just a few hours, court will reconvene in pittsburgh to formally impose a Death Sentence<\/a> on Robert Bowers<\/a>. It represents a milestone on the long road to justice for the victims of the antisemitic massacre. Danny freeman has the story. Reporter after more than nine weeks of trial, over 100 witnesses and nearly five years since the shooting, a jury of five men and seven women unanimously voted to sentence Robert Bowers<\/a> to death. The jury deliberated for ten hours. Today was the hardest day. And i think it was the hardest day for the jury too. It was a hard day for the judge. Im sure everyone here as we move on and see justice the Justice System<\/a> work and just thankful for the jurors doing what they did. Reporter and survivors hugged each other in the courtroom, the judge presiding over the case choked up as he thanked the jury. Bowers only briefly looked up at the jurors. Returning a sentence of death is not a decision that comes easy, but we must hold accountable those who wish to commit such terrible acts of antisemitism, hate and violence. Reporter the verdict included a stunning rebuke of the Court Arguments<\/a> to spare his life. Jurors were not convinced that bowers suffered from schizophrenia or was motivated by delusions and not a single juror believed that he committed the offenses under emotional disturbance. During the trial the prosecution detailed how bowers had been convinced of the antisemitic and antilatino white replacement conspiracy pushed by some on the extreme right. His defense team not commenting on the verdict. In contrast, the jurors unanimously agreed with federal prosecutors. The killing of 11 jewish wore worshippers was premeditated and he had no remorse. When people espouse bigoted views and pick up weapons and use them to kill or try to kill people because of their faith, our office and our partners in Law Enforcement<\/a> will hold them accountable to the fullest extent of the law. Each and every time. Reporter formal sentencing is expected to happen thursday morning and during that proceedings, were also expecting to hear more impact statements from some of the victims who were impacted most by this shooting. Danny freeman, cnn, pittsburgh, pennsylvania. Coming in, an oregon woman escapes after being kidnapped and kept in a homemade dungeon. And details on where mark meadows might be, next. Cus is to always support the people who live and work there. Because you call these communities home, anand we do too. Pnc bank. Chevy silverado has what it takes to do it all with up to 13 cara views. And the z71 offroad package. You ok . Yeah. Any truck can help you make a living. This one helps you build a life. Chevy silverado. Im jayson. Im living with hiv and im on cabenuva. It helps keep me undetectable. For adults who are undetectable, cabenuva is the only complete, longacting Hiv Treatment<\/a> you can get every other month. Cabenuva is two injections, given by my healthcare provider, every other month. Its really nice not to have to rush home and take a daily hiv pill. Dont receive cabenuva if youre allergic to its ingredients or if you taking certain medicines, which may interact with cabenuva. Serious side effects include allergic reactions postinjection reactions, Liver Problems<\/a>, and depression. If you have a rash and other allergic reaction symptoms, stop cabenuva and get medical help right away. Tell your doctor if you have Liver Problems<\/a> or Mental Health<\/a> concerns, and if you are pregnant, breastfeeding, or considering pregnancy. Some of the most common side effects include injectionsite reactions, fever, and tiredness. If you switch to cabenuva, attend all treatment appointments. Ready to treat your hiv in a different way . Ask your doctor about everyothermonth cabenuva. Every other month, and im good to go. Our ears connect us to the moments that matter. Give them the nutrients they need with lipo. Its formulated with ingredients clinically shown to protect your ears from dizziness, ear ringing, and even hearing loss. Never miss a moment with lipo flavonoid. You get roped in with phone offers, that bind you to a 3year device contract. Break free with tmobile introducing go5g plus, the first plan that always gives new and existing customers the same great device deals, and youre upgrade ready in two years versus three. Right now, bring tmobile your phone and get the amazing iphone 14 on us. Trapped. Free. Get the amazing iphone 14 on us. Trapped. Free. With 30 grams of protein. Those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks uuuhhhh. Here, ill take that woohoo ensure max protein, 30 grams of protein, 1 gram of sugar. Enter the 10,000 powered by protein max challenge. Youve evolved. Youve changed. So have we. Thats why new Dove Body Wash<\/a> now has 24hour renewing Micro Moisture<\/a> for continuous care. New Dove Body Wash<\/a>. Change is beautiful. Were reinventing our network. With smarter, more efficient routes. So you can deliver more value to your customers. Fast. Reliable. Perfectly orchestrated. The United States<\/a> postal service. There is growing speculation that former white house Chief Of Staff<\/a> mark meadows is cooperating with the Justice Department<\/a> in the latest indictment of donald trump. Meadows was not named as an alleged coconspirator. Tom foreman has more from washington. Reporter before the mob raged, before police were beaten and lawmakers ran, there was white house Chief Of Staff<\/a> mark meadows telling his aid Cassidy Hutchinson<\/a> according to her testimony there is a lot going on, cass, but i dont know. Things might get real real bad on january 6. That evening was the first moment that i remember feeling scared. Reporter this is about donald trump and about actually going after him once again. Reporter if anyone knew then President Trump<\/a>s plans for the lost election, it might have been meadows. I just want to find 11,780 votes. Reporter after all he joined that phone call when trump leaned on the top georgian official to overturn his loss there. We believe not every vote or fair vote and legal vote was counted. Reporter the latest Indictment Notes<\/a> at one Point Meadows<\/a> told trump the georgia officials were doing an exemplary job, but one day later trump called them terrible people cuffiovering up fraud. Ultimate checkses and balance is the congress pap. Reporter and Jim Jordan Messaged Meadows Insisting<\/a> that mike pence should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional. And stop certification. Meadows response, i have pushed for this, not sure it is going to happen. And when the mob tried to violently force what pence would not, could not do, donald trump jr. Messaged that his father had to act and condemn this. Meadows replaied and i am pushig it hard. But saying little publicly, he sat down with the grand jury earlier this year and since then hes been even more tight lipped spurring some to wonder if what mark meadows is not saying speaks volumes. Looks like somebody who is cooperating with the federal government. Reporter it is not clear if meadows is cooperating with the feds or if he is in any sort of legal jeopardy himself. All that is clear is that lot of people in this town want to know what he is doing. Tom foreman, cnn, washington. Lets bring in legal analyst and criminal defense attorney joey jackson. Always good to see you even if it is very early in the morning here on the east coast. Lets start on that last point that if you are part of trumps legal team, how concerning is it to hear that mark meadows could be cooperating and is that sound logic if someone is cooperating they are more likely to be left off of an indictment like this if he was even considered in the first place . Yeah, so omar, good morning. The answer is that it is very concerning. When you look at any legal case, particularly this case against trump when you are focusing on the State Of Mind<\/a>, you are trying to know what was the president thinking, what did he really believe. And then you look at the indictment which lays out in real detail that so many people at the highest level, director of national intelligence, your cybersecurity expert, Top White House<\/a> lawyers were explaining to you, there was no fraud, mr. President. It goes on. So many people telling him that. And then you have mr. Meadows your Chief Of Staff<\/a> who was with you, they would get you into the State Of Mind<\/a> of the president. Did the president know this was bogus, did he adopt the fact that it was bogus privately but publicly was he saying these things. That gets us in to the universe of what the president was thinking. So yes, he is a very troubling witness if you are on the defense team. The issue then would be is he cooperating and what leverage if any the federal government would have over him to cooperate. Is he just being an altruistic citizen or can they force him to cooperate. So the essence, we cant presume mark meadows did anything wrong without any evidence of that, but if he is a witness and he is on team usa and you are the defense for trump, certainly he is the guy that can tell you what the president was thinking, who he was talking to and what his State Of Mind<\/a> actually was. And that is critical in these cases. I want to play a little bit of what trumps attorney had to say on wednesday. You are entitled to believe and trust advice of counsel. You have one of the leading constitutional scholars in the United States<\/a>, john eastman, say this is a protocol that you can follow, it is legal. That eliminates criminal intent. That is one lawyer, he had his white House Counsel<\/a> he saying that was not true. Here is the thing though. The government in a criminal case has to prove Beyond A Reasonable Doubt<\/a> criminal intent and corrupt intent. So joey, is the lawyer told me it was okay defense a strong one . Well, it is a defense in terms of whether takes strong defense, in this particular case, it is not. I mean, people rely upon lawyers and they should. A long time spent in law school, you are advising several clients. Not that lawyers are know it alls, but you expect that your lawyer would give you valuable information. The problem here is that the indictment lays out that so many people advised the president at the highest levels that this is false. And then it goes down to every state. Arizona, the Specificatis Of Wh<\/a> was happening there, no fraud, mr. President , georgia, no fraud, mr. President. So many people, so many state people on the ground there was no fraud. And then when you determine that, you have the state electors scheme. Did lawyers advise you do that . You have pressing the Vice President<\/a> to do something unconstitutional. Did lawyers advise you to do that. So it doesnt carry much muster and at the end of the day not a defense that will get him out from under this indictment. And donald trump expected to appear today for his arraignment after what is now a third indictment over the last few months. Joey jackson, thank you so much. Coming up, how will trumps latest indictment impact the Republican Party<\/a> and 2024 . 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Com fbi is looking for more victims in at least ten states this morning after a woman escaped a makeshift cinder block dungeon in an oregon home. Officials say the 29yearold is in federal custody on kidnapping charges. The fbi says he targeted sex workers or roommates by putting drugs in their drinks or posing as a Police Officer<\/a> before sexual assaulting them. The victims focus, actions and her will to survive triggered a Law Enforcement<\/a> response that may have actually saved many other women from a similar nightmare. You through quick and decisive Law Enforcement<\/a> action, we were able to get him into custody in reno the following day. Fbi says that he also targeted other victims in these ten states that stretches coast to coast. And we want to take you to israel where right now a panel of three Supreme Court<\/a> judges are hearing an appeal to a new law that makes it more difficult to declare the Prime Minister<\/a> incapacitated or unfit for office. Meanwhile mass protests continue over a separate judicial overhaul plan that prevents judges from reviewing unreasonable government decisions. Elliott gotkine is joining us from the Supreme Court<\/a> in jerusalem on this latest appeal. So elliott, previously the Attorney General<\/a> had held the power to declare the Prime Minister<\/a> incapacitated or unfit for office and this new law gave it to the cabinet. What are you expecting to see today . Reporter it also reduced the powers of the Attorney General<\/a> to rule Benjamin Netanyahu<\/a> was should step down effectively because of a Conflict Of Interest<\/a>. What were hearing today, this appearing before three justices has its roots in netanyahus legal troubles. You recall that he is on trial for Corruption Charges<\/a> that he denies. And so at the time when his legal troubles began, there were petitions to the Supreme Court<\/a> saying he is unfit for office. The Supreme Court<\/a> said no, he can be Prime Minister<\/a> so long as there is no Conflict Of Interest<\/a>. And then the government unveiled this of ccontroversial overhaul. And the Attorney General<\/a> says hang on, you are on trial for corruption so you cant be involved. So the government passes a law effectively allowing netanyahu to be involved because it reduces the Attorney General<\/a>s power to say this is a Conflict Of Interest<\/a> and he would have to step down from office. So what the Supreme Court<\/a> is hearing today is whether that law is okay. The petitioners including the Attorney General<\/a> say no, it is not okay because it was tailored to netanyahu and it therefore represents an abuse of power. The significance of this ruling is that this law that was passed is an amendment to a basic law, the closest israel has to a constitution. And never before has the Supreme Court<\/a> struck down a basic law or an amendment to a basic law. And if it does decide to strike down this basic law, it could indicate the Supreme Court<\/a>s willingness to strike down this Reasonableness Bill<\/a> when it gets together in september. So that would make that less significant if it doesnt set a precedent because the presicede would be set in this case. And that is why this hearing matters. A lot of testing of powers there. Elliott, glad youre keeping up with it. Just ahead, donald trump is facing his third arraignment. Will it work in his favor . Well explain. vo Verizon Small Business<\/a> days are coming. From august 7th to the 13th. Now is the time to partner with our experts. Get started today with verizon business. Its your business. Its your verizon. For too long, Big Oil Companies<\/a> have bought off politicians so they can get away with ripping us off. Thats changing now. Joe biden passed a plan to jumpstart Clean Energy Production<\/a> in america. Its creating good jobs that cant be outsourced and will lower energy costs. 1800. Thats how much a new report says the Inflation Reduction Act<\/a> could save just the average American Family<\/a> on energy costs. [narrator] learn how the Inflation Reduction Act<\/a> will save you money. While former President Trump<\/a> might be dealing with growing legal issues, there is no sign his status for Fronts Runner<\/a> for the republican nomination is at risk. So lets bring in michelle price, National Political<\/a> report for the associated press. I want to start with trumps former Attorney General<\/a> Bill Barr On Cnn<\/a> last night, here is part of what he had to say about using Campaign Funds<\/a> for legal fees. I find that sort of nauseating. This guy claims to be a multibillionaire and he goes out and raises money from hard working people, smul all donorsd tells them that it is to defend america, to take care of the he didnt provide any significant support during the elections and a lot of this money seems to be going to his legal fees. Weve seen trumps fundraising go up. Any reason to expect that to change . At this point there is no reason to expect that to change. That being said, this is the sthi third indictment, possible there could be a fourth. Unclear how many times he can keep tapping these folks for donations. But he has spent an extraordinary amount of money, i think it was 40 million that his Political Action<\/a> committee has spent on legal fees just so far in 2023. So there are multiple indictments to choose from, one after the second one, i spoke to a lot of trump voters and the indication i got was they werent just going to take jack smith or any federal indictment at face value because they just dont trust the department of justice. So along those lines, wh you field, gop field, they are still trying to walk the political tight rope outside of Chris Christie<\/a> who has held nothing back. What types of lines have you seen these candidates try to walk in how they navigate these indictments . Yeah, Chris Christie<\/a> and Asa Hutchison<\/a> have been very critical for his role in january 6, the Election Fraud<\/a> lies that he was telling. But, you know, beyond that, weve seen kind of little comments from some of the other candidates. We saw tim scott and ron desantis Make Commentses<\/a> that they are concerned about a president being prosecuted. Ron desantis who is the closest in the field to catching donald trump but still a ways behind him in the polls, he has made a lot of comments that he is concerned about a president or anybody being able to get a fair trial in washington, d. C. He is making the claim that it is not a friendly territory for republicans. So some of them are making kind of broader Criminal Justice<\/a> arguments, maybe not weighing in on the merits of the allegations in the underlying case. And at this point it is a factor that has not gone away for the candidates so well see if they worked out their positions when we get to the debates come august, first one at least. Michelle price, thank you very much for being with us. Now, just ahead or right now honestly, lionel messi continues to show why he is considered the greatest Soccer Player<\/a> of alltime with another showcase performance last night. Mls just habsnt been able to handle messi. Andy scholes has the bleacher report. It couldnt have gone any better so far. They were taking on rival orlando. And messi was at it again. Seventh minute, he receives this ball off his chest and just drills it into the back of the net. Orlando was not making it easy on messi being they were getting really chippy with him and he even got a yellow card in the 21st minute. But we fast forward to the 72nd minute, messi once again rifles it in. Five goals three games now, they win 31 to advance to the quarter finals. Elsewhere, iowa state quarterback Hunter Decker<\/a> stepping away after criminal charges were filed in part of a sports wagering investigation, accused of playing 366 bets with 26 of those involving iowa state events including the 2021 Football Game<\/a> in which he did not play. The complaint alleges that bets were made from his phone using an account set up under the name of a family member. He was also under the age of 21 at the time which is below the legal betting age in iowa. He denies the accusations. Kevin seven current or former iowa athletes are facing charges for gambling on league games. And latest chapter of college realignment, big ten could soon expand to as many as 20 teams. The league reportedly begun preliminary talks to add oregon and washington, cal and stanford are also under consideration. All four of those currently members of the pac12 conference. That would leave the future of the pac12 certainly uncertain. In addition the league also will lose colorado to the big 12 after this coming season. In baseball, Yankees Pitcher<\/a> will miss the remainder of the season after voluntarily entering Inpatient Treatment<\/a> for alcohol abuse. The right hander threw a perfect game back in june against the as. He was scratched from his scheduled start monday night against the rays. Yankees said it was because of armpit discomfort, but he did enter in relief. Finally tom brady is back in football. So here is the deal. Im officially coming on board at Birmingham City<\/a> football club. Maybe you are asking what do you know about english football, tom . Well, lets just say i got a lot to learn. But i do know a few things about winning. And i think that they might translate pretty well. Tom brady making that announcement early this morning. He purchased a minority ownership stake. This comes after j. J. Watt purchased a Minority Stake<\/a> in another team. So i guess it is the cool thing do when you retire from the nfl, you get a Minority Stake<\/a> in an english premiere team. Football is football. Andy scholes, thank you so much. Coming up next, recession . What recession. A big bank just changed its forecast for the u. S. Economy. Well explain. Fromom prom dresses. To workouts. And new adventures. You hope the more you give the less theyll miss. But even if your teen was vaccinated against meningitis in the past. They may be missing vaccination for meningitis b. 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We dont get scared. Oh, really . Mom can see your search history. Thats what i thought. Introducing the next generation 10g network. Only from xfinity. Fitch ratings is cutting u. S. Mortgage giants freddie may a and fannie mae down. Reporter u. S. Treasury wasted little time after the downgrade was announced. Janet yellen made her views abundantly clear that she disagreed, the u. S. Economy was fundamentally strong. Fitchs decision is puzzling in light of the economic strength we see in the United States<\/a>. I strongly disagree with fitchs decision and i believe that it is entirely unwarranted. Its flawed assessment is based on out dated data and fails to reflect improvements across a range of indicators including those related to governance that weve seen over the past 2 1 2 years. Reporter it wasnt only the treasury. Top economists, respected names, also came out and said the decision was inept, that the timing was off and bizarre in the worlds words of one. And yet fitch stood by its decision. This was not about the immediacy of a recession which they say will happen in the Fourth Quarter<\/a> of this year, Something Else<\/a> everyone disagrees on, or the growth currently being experienced. In the view of fitch, this was longer term, it was about the erosion of governance. We do feel like governance steadily over the last 20 years and because of that, i think that we have less confidence that the government can tackle the challenges. Reporter so now two of the three major Rating Agencies<\/a> have downgraded the United States<\/a>, admittedly 11 years apart. What is interesting is that s p never went back to the top level having done the downgrade back in 2011. And it seems unlikely that fitch would restore the highest grade anytime soon. This is not about what is happening today. It is a warning for the future. Fitch has sent a warning shot across the bows of the u. S. , only problem is who is listening. Richard quest, cnn, new york. To talk about it, lets bring in john leer from the morning consult. John, good to see you. D downgrade to from fitch. Is the Justice Department<\/a> angry or are the decisions pretty warranted at this point . I think there is a reason to be disappointed. Of course private sector enterprises, so i dont think that the government really has room in this instance to get too bent out of shape. But it is particularly concerning because i think that the timing is just off. It is a little bizarre as richard said in that prior piece. The u. S. Economy has been pretty steady improving. We got through the Debt Standoff<\/a> and Debt Ceiling Negotiations<\/a> i think without really harming the underlying governance structure. So yeah, i am surprised and i dont think that it will be good for the u. S. Economy going forward. And i think a big indicator in any of these economic discussions for a lot of people watching is basically their ability to put food on the kitchen table. And so for people that might not fully understand the role of these Credit Rating<\/a> firms, put it into perspective. Why are their ratings so important . They are so important because they allow the u. S. Government to go out and raise money, to raise debt in particular. And to raise it at a fairly low interest rate. So it will allow you know, this decision essentially will make it more expensive for the u. S. To finance its debt going forward. That means to finance things like infrastructure investments, to finance all of the investments in the u. S. Economy that i think have made the u. S. So resilient and so fortunate really relative to the rest of the world. And another indicator a lot of folks have been keeping an eye on is Interest Rates<\/a>. Already at their highest levels in over 20 years. Should we expect more rate hikes for 2023 . I think that im a little bit of an outlier here. I think the likelihood of a rate hike is not crazy. Id put it maybe 50 50 between the end of this year. Yeah, i think a lot of folks on wall street think inflation is over, we dont quite see that yet. We think it is likely that you will get some sort of a bounceback possibly from the housing market. And so on top of that, i think that it is a slightly nuanced view, but even if Interest Rates<\/a> stay the same and inflation starts to fall, which weve seen, real rates, inflation adjusted rates are essentially becoming higher. So effectively borrowing money is becoming more expensive. So even if the fed doesnt raise rates again going forward, there is a chance that it will in fact become more expensive and ultimately more contractionary in the economy. A lot to keep an eye on. I dont know lear, john leer, thank you for joining us. In an effort to crack down on internet addiction, china is looking to limit screen time for children. Anna coren is live in hong kong with more. So anna, we seem to live in online world. How exactly would the rule work . Reporter yeah, it is not just chinese problem, is it, it is a western problem. But china is doubling down proposing new restrictions on children and teenagers and the time that they can spend on the internet and mobile devices each day. In a bid as you say to counter internet addiction. The regulator says it wants providers to introduce a minor mode that would cut off users from accessing the internet from 10 00 p. M. Through until 6 00 a. M. And also a limit on how mu time that kids under t age of 18 would be allowed to go online each day. If you are under the age of 8, it is 40 minutes a day. 8 to 16, an hour a day. 16 to 18, two hours a day. Once it has reached the Limit E Device<\/a> will shut down. There are a number of exemptions includg emergency services, educational products such as online classes, apps for physical and mental development. Parents, they can also choose to exempt apps for the child plus opt out of time limits. We spoke to one parent this morning, and ill read what she had to say, she said i think it is good, on the one hand it ca protect their eye vision as many young kids cant stop themselves while watching something they like. On the other hand it is easier for us parents to control screen time. They only have 40 minutes. Most importantly the content under the teenage mode is more positive and healthy. Now, parents might be happy, but Internet Companies<\/a> and investors certainly were not. Shares in chinese tech firms fell yesterday after news of the restrictions was announced. But they have bounced today. One lawyer in china said this is going to be a big headache for Internet Companies<\/a> if this is implemented. Back to you. Yeah, well keep an eye on it. Thank you, anna. And thank you all for joining us this morning. Im omar jimenez. Cnn this morning is next with former President Trump<\/a> appearing in court today for his third arraignment. What to expect. 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