Him. Also Rudy Giulianis slide from americas mayor to unindicted Co Conspirator with steps along the way. For the first time in two years simone biles, the most decorated gymnast of all time is getting back on the floor, bob costas joins us to talk about the abuse she and others suffered, and how shes coming back. Good evening, im pamela brown here for anderson on this friday night. And we begin with the former president , expected to speak shortly in alabama. Already today he has posted a threat on his social network, which doesnt bear showing, but reads in all caps, quote, if you go after me im coming after you, exclamation point. Earlier today the court filing he pleaded not guilty to the additional charges Special Counsel jack smith recently tacked onto the documents case, and in case youre keeping track thats twice in two days, and four times since april. As for yesterdays electionrelated charges, there is new polling out today showing nearly twothirds of americans believe those charges are either somewhat or very serious. Yet, somehow, some of the very people who would directly benefit from his downfall, his republican opponents, again today rushing to defend him. South carolina senator tim scott accused the Justice Department of weaponizing their power against donald trump. Florida governor ron desantis, who mr. Trump has viciously mocked, even their power against donald trump. Florida governor ron desantis, who mr. Trump has viciously mocked, even suggested he should be pardoned. Ive said for man behind you. Cnns Kristen Holmes starts us off tonight from montgomery, alabama where the president will speak shortly. What do we know about the president s State Of Mind heading into his speech tonight. Reporter this is exactly where he wants to be, in front of a crowd of adoring fans, there are thousands of people here, were in the Southern State of alabama. And just to give you an idea who is here, we just heard from the producers of 2,000 mules, the movie this perpetuated the Conspiracy Theories around the 2020 election and alleged widespread Election Fraud. So thats the kind of group of people hell be speaking in front of tonight. Now, i am told that he is going to rail against jack smith, that hes going to say that his first day in office hes going to appoint his own Special Prosecutor to continue the investigation into bidens family, that congress has already started, as well as that hes going to say that they waited, they being liberals, of course as we know hes making these legal charges political, until his poll numbers were higher, and thats why they brought the charges at this time. The biggest argument that were going to hear from trump and his team is going to be this election interference. When i talked to a lot of his advisers they really believe as the Campaign Ramps up that theyre going to have footing with this argument particularly if he remains the front runner. Theyre looking at that polling that shows that he is still leading, especially in headtohead match yawp with ron desantis, they believe theres an argument to be made there that this is political. But, of course, they want to play this out in the court of public opinion. They want to convince voters, not necessarily talking here about their legal strategy, pamela. And have the former president east aides said anything about the schedule . How do they plan to build his Campaign Schedule around three looming trials, one state, and two federal . Reporter well, i think thats the big question here because its going to become harder and harder to balance. We are looking at just a few weeks before the first gop primary debate, and trumps team is expecting, and bracing for a potential other indictment in fulton county, georgia. Youre looking at becoming a back and forth, back and forth. Almost like we were seeing now. In court yesterday, today campaign event, Tomorrow C Campaign event. Thats why they believe this could potentially help them delay some of these trials by saying this is actually interfering with us being able to campaign and, in fact, when they believe he might be arraigned for this last indictment on friday and they had a campaign event, they were looking at ways to spin that, to talk about how that he was going to be arraigned on the same day that he had a campaign event, and what that would mean. Of course, ha didnt end up happening. He was arraigned on a thursday, but it gives you insight how theyre looking on fighting this, at least, again, to the public, to the voters. Yeah, how theyre looking to reframe it, as in their benefit, giving the voters, their voters, the base, what they want to hear. Kristen holmes, thanks so much. And joining us now, two former Republican House members, mia love, and joe walsh, and special adviser van jones, great to see all of you on this friday night. Theres new abc polling that shows that 65 of americans believe the charges in this latest indictment are serious, thats higher than in the classified documents and hush money cases. However, according to a cnn poll, among registered voters who say they cast a ballot for trump in 2020, 75 say they have doubts about bidens legitimacy as president. How do you reconcile those two numbers . Pamela, i think its easy. And maybe my Vantage Point is skewed because i hear from Republican Base voters every day. And look, i think theres credible evidence that donald trump committed crimes to overturn the election. But republican voters, pamela, dont see it that way. They really do truly believe, and this is what i hear every day, that the government, the deep state is after him. Trump is a martyr. Hes a victim. That is such a powerful narrative with republican voters, and i dont think its a narrative that any of his republican competitors can overcome, and i think hell be fairly formidable in a general election, and that scares me. And his opponents, many of them, are kind of going along with this idea of deep state, government being weaponized. Doj having two tracks, one for the former president , one for hunter biden. Theyre not even going after donald trump at this latest indictment. Some are, many arent. Congresswoman love i want to go to you to play sound with Speaker Mccarthy, what he said last night comparing former president trumps election lies and how Hillary Clinton and al gore dealt with their election lies. I could say the same thing that Hillary Clinton says about her election that she lost. I can say the same thing about the dnc who said it about the 2016 race. I can say the same thing about those in the Democratic Party from the leadership on down about george bush not winning, that al gore did. But were any of them prosecuted . Were any of them put in jail . When Hillary Clinton said it, Nothing Happened to her. When they said it in georgias election, Nothing Happened to them either. You know what, when the dnc said it, Nothing Happened to them either. Adam kinzinger told Anderson Last Night that he believed Speaker Mccarthy, he knows the comparison is false and hes starting to get visibly mad having to publicly carry water for the former president. You know the speaker. Do you think thats whats going on here . He sounded a little kpas p exasperated like he wanted to talk about Something Else. Kevin would rather talk about policy, what we are doing to put americans lives ahead of politics. And you have to appreciate the position that hes in. I mean, hes looking at the polls, and yes, some of this indictment is starting to hurt the former president a little bit. But, it looks like he may be the republican nominee, and he still has to work with former president donald trump. And as you all know, and ive said this before, if you are not 100 in lockstep with the former president , if you arent 100 loyal with every single decision that he makes, then he doesnt then he considers you a traitor. Hes being careful not to get on the other side of somebody he is most likely going to have to work with again, very closely. Van, do you agree with that assessment . Well, thats what it looks like. You know, its interesting, you know, hearing Kevin Mccarthy talk about the fact its true, people have criticized Election Results and, you know, criticized democrats have done that and nothings happened to them. Also, republicans criticized barack obama, said he didnt have the right birth certificate, and they also were not prosecuted. Nobodys been prosecuted on either side, criticizing Election Results except for donald trump, in either party, because nobody has done what he did, which is to go Above And Beyond criticism, and to actually conspire criminally to overturn the election. And so, you know, Kevin Mccarthy knows better than to make these kind of false comparisons. It is true. Democrats criticized Election Results. Republicans criticized Election Results, its old as american pie, but nobody did what donald trump did, thats why hes the only one being prosecuted. What do you think, joe. Well, i think van is spot on, and this is such an important point. Donald trump was not indicted because of what he said. He was indicted because of what he did. And with all due respect to my friend mia love, i dont appreciate at all the position mccarthys in. Mccarthy is a coward. He sold his soul to become speaker so he will say whatever Marjorie Taylor greene and the base wants to say. I think america look, this is so clear by now. America needs to wrap their arms around the fact that my former Political Party is a cult, the leader of that cult is a criminal, and the party will not abandon him. Weve got to accept that. Im wondering what you i take some issue to calling the Republican Party a cult. Thats not going to bring us all together, i can tell you that right now. Republicans dont appreciate that. There are some republicans that have gone against donald trump. And those people want to be brought in too, they want to be appreciated, and they want to be noticed for the fact that they want to talk about policies that help americans, that help with the Inflation Problem that weve been dealing with, putting food on the table. Those republicans need to be heard, and they need to have someone validate their concerns. Let me ask you, though, to follow up on your point, congressman love, the ones who have done that that are currently running for president , i think of asa hutchinson, and even mike pence and his statement after this indictment, will hurd, not doing so well in the polls compared to trump, and compared to ron desantis. If you look at my race, trump was a big factor in my race, and it didnt turn out well. I had to answer for every single thing that donald trump did, and other candidates today are going to have to answer for every single thing that he did, and has done. And youre right, van, i wanted to say that the big the big difference here, with the indictment, is january 6th, and what happened to january 6th and what happened on january 6th. Thats the big difference. And we have to make sure we that thats clear. Republicans, candidates are going to have to answer this question. Theyre going to have to theyre going to have to answer the question of whether they believe donald trump should be indicted, every single ones going to have to answer that, and thats not right. We really should be talking about issues that matter. What about things like small issues like cancer, and eradicating cancer, supporting President Biden when he says he wants to get rid of that. Thats something that republicans and democrats can actually hold hands on, and america would applaud them for it. Why cant we come together on important issues that touch every single americans lives . Mia love, joe walsh, van jones, thank you for that discussion. Up next, ben ginsberg on the Trump Charges and the comparisons Kevin Mccarthy made, well dig deeper into that. Also later, what and who were behind the utter chaos today in new yorks union square. 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Were any of them put in jail . Were any of them held with no response to beli able to get ou . The answer is no. You shouldnt be prosecuted for your thoughts. The difference here is, when Hillary Clinton said it, Nothing Happened to her. When they said it in georgias election, Nothing Happened to them either. For starters, break this down. No one that he mentioned at any time in any race instigated a violent mob to attack the seat of government, nor did anyone else invite said mob to washington, with the words big protests in d. C. On january 6th, be there, well be wild, nor has anyone el