Former president can share publicly, going over the new documents in the january 6 case, standby for that. Also on this hour, ukraine says it as a russian informant in custody in connection with a foiled plot to assassinate prison zelenskyy. This as moscows forces have unleashed a deadly new Missile Strike in eastern ukraine. Tracking the urgent threat of powerful storms and tornadoes , putting millions of americans at risk in the eastern United States including right here in washington dc. Welcome to her viewers here in the United States and around the world, i am wolf blitzer, youre in the situation room. This is cnn Breaking News. Lets get right to the and Breaking News on the filing by the Trump Legal Team in connection with the january 6 prosecution of the former president , crime and justice reporter, kalin joining us right now, what is in the new response just filed by the trump team . Wolf, political bluster in here as well as a legal proposal, they actually are not that far away from Prussic Tutors on what the dispute is at this time, we have the Justice Department saying they wanted to start turning evidence over to the donald Trump Defense lawyers but couldnt because trumps defense team was not willing to make an agreement with them on how they could set some sort of nondisclosure privilege to protect evidence that would be needed for the defense to review as a go to trial. That is what the dispute was about in the last couple of days, the judges have deadlines, and the filing deadline, as youre looking through it, one of the things the trump team says is that they dont want a protective order or nondisclosure order over all of the evidence they are getting in the case, they just want to only shield genuinely Sensitive Information they may be getting, the Justice Department essentially had the same concern in the filings as well previous we got saying they want to shield things like grand jury transcripts and things that work generally sensitive in the case to make sure would not hurt a trial. Two proposals before the judge right now on how to handle evidence in the case, how much can be shared, more widely as they go to trial, but as this is a filing from Donald Trumps defense team they have in making political comments as well as legal comments as lawyers over the weekend and now in the filing too theyre bringing up some political bluster, one of the things they mentioned, a joe biden tweet which they says it thinly veiled reference that capitalizes on the joe biden holding a Coffee Company tweet, it may not have direct impact on the case at all but there is little bit of this political sniping happening in these filings, still at the same time, that some of the legal issues are apparently getting worked out, but of course as always we need to see what the judge is going to say next. We will see with the responses, 29 pages in the document, response and opposition to the governments motion for a protective order, we will see what the response is going to be to the response. I understand the Special Counsels team spoke to another key witness today, tell us about that . Bernie karich, a close associate of Rudy Giulianis after the 2020 election was essentially working to try to get together these Affidavits Of Supposedly Fraud that ultimately were not true, the amount of fraud was not that evident in the 2020 election, however he and his lawyer, there they are on the screen, exiting the Special Counsels office after an interview of about five hours, and one of the things that they are very clearly acknowledging being asked about is rudy giuliani. One of the people who is quite clearly in the indictment of donald trump a conspirator, unnamed and Uncharged Conspirator but someone who there is obviously a continuing investigation around, or at least an investigation around his actions that would merit someone like Bernie Karich as a witness to come in and speak to the official counsels office at this time. Very significant, caitlin, stay with us, nor mine norm eisen, and jennifer rogers, jennifer, what is your reaction about the new trump filing that has just come out . We are still reviewing it but its no surprise really, we heard yesterday from john lauro that its a First Amendment defense, thats one of their primary defenses here. This filing is full of it, they say the First Amendment means that trump should be able to review the discovery and talk about it however he wants, the First Amendment doesnt have a place in a Discovery Dispute like this but they are sticking with it, there will be a resolution reached here, the judge will be somewhere in between the protective order the government once and some slightly less broad version, probably more broad though than trump one, and that is how judges use decide, somewhere down the middle, its good that they provide a redline, working with the protective order that jack smith proposed, not saying through the whole thing out, thats a reasonable approach to work with the judge on and i hope they continue in that vein as we move forward with more pretrial litigation. We know that part of the filing is including political bluster is long with the legal argument, how do you expect the judge will rule in this case . When you take out the Political Part of the filing, including the titfortat the government provided the judge with a copy of a tweet, social media posting i should say from donald trump, if you dont come after me i will come after you, including a picture of joe biden, and john lauro, with whom i used to be a criminal defense law, offering a reasonable counteroffer here, i dont think the judge will agree on every point, but he has offered a proposal to broaden who gets to use these materials. To have slightly more people use them, its not beyond the pale, how the handler, some proposals to slightly expend that, and when they can be used, including introduction at trial, but only after giving the government notice, so these are not unreasonable counteroffers, i think when you subtract the politics, they will land in the middle, the politics are important, because john is trying the case in the court of law and the court of public opinion. Caitlin, you been reading more of this 29 page document that has just been filed by the Trump Legal Team, what more can you tell us about the filing . One of the things that the Justice Department did that was so unusual setting this up fridays that they cited a social media post from donald trump, saying if you come after me, im coming after you, as one of the reasons why the prosecutors want to the judge to move quickly and get some order placed so that there wasnt some sort of retaliatory action by donald trump showing evidence, and as far as i can tell, i havent read every single world of the filing it, i just came in right before your show started but i will tell you, from what i can see, theres not a big argument going on at this time, about those trump social media post, so a lot of that, whether thats going to be coming to the case, is something we should be washing for as we move forward not just right now, and there is so much here, waiting to see what the judge is going to say and we do see with the judge is going to do. The end of the story is never what the responses from trump steamer with the prosecutors say, it is how the judge responds ultimately and whether she, the judge who has increase security around her at this time, someone is going to be very closely watched, watching her, and how she responds, not just to the legal fight this happening but also the social media post from donald trump, what they are flagging in their filings and how donald trump responds both with the political arguments as well as the legal argument, that is really the thing to watch moving forward. What is your reaction to what caitlin is reporting, the readonly document, there are fears about a Chilling Effect on witnesses i take it . We know that donald trump has a history of threatening and intimidating witnesses, prosecutors and judges and grand jurors, the jury pool at large, and will want to warn them before trying to do anything, and anything else year, its going to be very mindful watching out for statement that would potentially impact the integrity of the case or the safety of possible witnesses, we know in the past, people who spoke out against donald trump or not even spoken against him but told the truth about what he did in the way that the former president and like, had their lives turned upside down with the threats and other things, i think the judge is going to be very mindful as it moves forward to protect the case and the witnesses. Justice Department Special counsel prosecutors argue a protective order is necessary to ensure that trump does not publicly disclose evidence. How common is that kind of order . It is very common. We gotten even more serious version of that in the mara lago documents prosecution by Special Counsel jack smith because classified material is involved. The key point is that the government and the prosecutors actually want to turn over the information, they have a vast amount of information, they have reasonable concerns but we must not, despite the history of Donald Trumps conduct in witnesses, injuries, we must not minimize the First Amendment right, when you take all the politics out of it. To reasonable proposals before the court, picking the middle course, this is the speed in the volume, decided to come, a larger filing with the government, a sign of things to come. Between the prosecutors, and his defense team. Increase for the federal judge that trump has attacked in this case, would you learning about that . It comes from our reporter is been at the courthouse many days who noticed more security around judge Tonya Chutkin kindly deputy u. S. Marshals discussing security, we dont have any more from the Marshall Service but this is always something that would be expected and it ramped up security around the jurors in the roger stone case and theyve done quite a bit of worse work, making sure that the courthouse was very secure, the same time as they are wrapping up security, making sure the building is secure other people have security, they are making sure that things run like normal over there at the federal courthouse as they always have done, and highprofile cases. Think you guys very much. We will of course stay on top of the story. Donald trumps main republican rival is sharpening his criticism, what ron desantis is now saying about the formal former president s loss in 2020 and what t it mean for 2024. O. Clink dr. Marshall used partrt of his refund to give his practice a facelift. Emily used part of her refund to buy. I run a wax museum. Let Innovation Refunds help you get started on your erc tax refund. 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[announcer] call right now to receive your free noobligation info kit. Call the number on your screen. Following the Breaking News, donald Trump Legal Team filing a response to the jack smith request to limit the evidence the president can share with the public. Former president. Sharpening their criticism, geoff joins me now in the situation room. First of all, what does Governor Ron Desantis say now . He has tiptoed around the 2020 election, for the last couple of years he has rarely if ever talked about exactly what talked about in those unproven allegations, struggling in his campaign trying to reset the campaign, now he is taking a sharper tone. Whoever puts their hand on the bible on january 20 every four years, is the winner. If you cant give a yes or no on whether or not trump lost then how of course he lost. He lost the 2020 election . Of course, and joe biden is the president. Singh of course he lost, even though its an obvious statement, its significant, because the Florida Governor has not yet said that, we will see if there is a responsive course, but most republicans we talked to, are suspicious of something happening, but people believe joe biden is the president , of course he is. Are the rivals lee started to be more vocal about the dangers of trumps legal woes overshadowing the race . Some are and some arent, chris cristi is leading the way but there is concern about the Focus On Trump rather than the by the administration, here is a sample of what some gop candidates are saying. This is a preview of the election coming up with donald trump is the nominee, he will be talking about donald trump rather than joe biden. Talking to voters and i wanted hampshire, they are not talking about the indictment. January 26, 2021, what document was left at maralago, if it is a referendum on that we are going to lose. That is the point here, so much talk about the general election, thats the ultimate goal, the republicans winning back the white house for the party, there is very deep concern that the former president may complicate that. Im sure theres a lot of concern on that. Stay with us geoff. Bring in ron brownstein, and youre here with me in the situation room, what do you make of the rhetorical shift we are seeing from some of the republican candidates . As far as ron desantis and mike pence to a certain extent, people were waiting for this, when will they take the gloves off, their bet at this point they may not be able to pull away these diehard trump voters but there are never trump voters and sometimes trump voters as well, so whoever is able to consolidate that block of voters, 35 or 40 of the party, they have a shot at taking on donald trump. So far you see how ron desantis has been sliding down the poles, his campaign talked about it, this is clearly a part of it. We will see how deep into the never trump territory goes, again there is still a huge block of the party that is diehard for trump, and he ideally would want some of those voters if hes going to be able to successfully challenge donald trump. Do you think directly challenging trump actually benefits is 2024 rivals or is it more about their behind many of them, so way behind, a card that they have the play . I think they have no choice. The evidence is overwhelming in the polling so far, and 2024, as in 2016, failing to confront trump directly is a virtual guarantee of a failure in the race itself. He has as big a lead in the National Polling as any primary candidate has had ever, and the polls show that most Republican Voters do not believe he committed a crime, and are broadly satisfied with his performance as president. A poll where 60 described january 6 as a legitimate protest. Against that you have to give primary voters a compelling reason to bypass trump if theyre going to do so, and generally speaking, except for the candidates in the race like chris cristi, the other leading candidates are not willing to do that, the writing is on the wall for ron desantis, he has no choice than to go further in the direction hes going, what he is doing so far clearly is not working. Let me follow up on that, he says Republican Voters know the 2024 election cant be about what happened in 2020 but that doesnt square with trump being the dominant f