On the boat dog. Why the whole country seems to be talking about what happened when a black cocaptain standing on that dog, pre faced an unprovoked attack by a mob of white folks for asking them to move their pontoon boat, please say. As the cocaptain approached the dock and attempted to peacefully move the boat over, just so that they could park, the owners of the boat confront them in a hostile manner. There were words exchanged and then it turned into the combat that you have all seen. So the cocaptain was doing his job. Now we have an interview with the Montgomery Police chief in a bit and we will will more charges becoming, or talk about it ahead. But lets begin with our Breaking News this hour. Cnn projects that voters in ohio have rejected a measure that is seen as a proxy in the battle over Abortion Rights. They voted down in effort to make it harder to amend the state constitution. The head of November Referendum On Whether to constitutionally guaranteed Abortion Rights in that state. It sounds a bit confusing but we are going to explain it all, at least we have people who can do that for me. Tonight we have cnn political commentator jeff duncan, the former republican Lieutenant Governor of georgia, and harry enten, cnns senior data reporter and Lauren Leader cofounder and ceo of all in together. Plus, cnn political analyst coleman hughes, host of the Podcast Conversations with coleman. All right, here we go. So let me first ask you, harry, about what this vote meant because it was a vote no, but it meant that you have a yes when it comes to Abortion Rights. Very bizarre, right . Confusing all around, but ill explain it this way. Pro Abortion Rights advocates got a Ballot Measure on the ballot this upcoming november in which a yes vote which essentially mean that Abortion Rights would be legalized in the state of ohio. At this point, the law is that you need 50 plus one for a Ballot Measure to pass, so tonight, what happened was that republicans, conservatives, decided to put a Ballot Measure on the ballot in which they tried to say no, it is not 50 plus one that you need, it is 60 plus one that you need. So all of a sudden they were like okay we want to raise that bar for that abortion measure come november. So, in this particular case the no vote was saying no we want to keep it at 50 plus one and what we saw was overwhelmingly the voters in fact so a simple majority versus a supermajority. Exactly right. What did the numbers look like . How big did this go towards saying we want to keep the constitution the same . It was a double digit blowout. Right now you can see that what we are looking at, essentially, is a 13 point margin at this particular point and keep in mind that donald trump won in the state of ohio by eight points. So all of the sudden you had a really red state, in ohio, that voted for donald trump by eight points saying no by about 13 points and no one in this particular case is a proxy for saying that Abortion Rights in the state of ohio are popular by 13 points. There is a lot of money spent to try to show voters what this really meant, because it is a bit confusing. Lauren, i want to ask you what the thoughts are on how potent this issue is. What does this tell us about how important this issue is to americans . Over and over again we have been hearing since the Dobbs Decision saying that this issue is going to fade into the background, its the economy, and other issues. We heard that going into 2022 midterms, theyve been wrong again and again. This is the most salient, galvanizing, political issue for women on the left, but also increasingly from our poles, for independent women, which is why it is so powerful in states like ohio. What we saw in kansas, every single place in the country where we have had a Ballot Measures since dobbs, asking voters what they want in terms of Abortion Rights. They voted in favor of Abortion Rights. And the fact that otin ohio is such a blowout, to your point, it was not even close. In an august of the cycle, single vote election, which was intentionally held in an off time when peop on vacation to try to kee away from the polls and yet, folks turned out. I think that when we get into the data and we start seeing what that looks like and the exit polls, well get a better sense of it. But there is no question, in our polling, poll after poll, abortion and guns are the two top issues for women voters going into this election. And the last thing that i will say on this is that there may be annex of suspected consequence of dobbs is the extent that voters are paying attention to state politics. Ohio has been a place where democracy has been dying in darkness for years there. A lot of gerrymandering, gamesmanship in the state legislature. Suddenly, since dobbs, there and states around the country you are seeing voters hyper focused on statewide elections that is going to rewrite the map in a lot of ways for years to come. Im curious, jeff, about what you think about this. Is this a mistake for republicans to focus on abortion because of some of the numbers that you have seen a year . I do want to throw up a full screen to give you an idea of some recent polling that we have done. 64 of americans disapprove the overturning of roe v. Wade. When you look at those numbers it is democrat and independent voters who seem to be the ones who are up for grabs, if you will, on this issue. They are saying, look, this is important to, us we really, really are going to Pay Attention to what people are saying about this issue. Should republicans be pushing this issue if they are running for state office . If theyre running for federal office . I think its important to recognize that democracy was put on display here. The Supreme Court to push this back to the state and each state is going to have their own personality, their own leans towards policies one way or another. Oh hines spoke and they spoke loudly, with which direction they want to go in. Also, these constitutional questions are really, really confusings. When the most confusing that i dealt with in State Government is how you actually write the question, are you present double negatives, how it is delivered out to the populace. From a republican standpoint i feel like this issue, we need to do a better job of being empathetic. We need to do a better job, regardless of prolife or prochoice, we need to understand that single teenage girl who is pregnant and worried, we need to be empathetic and understand rather than just trying to preach, we need to understand. I look at georgia. We passed a heartbeat bill, Stacey Abrams use that as her cornerstone issued Beat Ryan Camp because it was not trying to go out and point fingers and make a point out of it, he was simply trying to pass foster care legislation to make things easier for the adoptive process. Coleman, every state in the country, that was before dobbs. And i think the rules have been completely written and across the board this is an absolutely for republican and you look at like what a liability is becoming for people like Ron Desantiss who are committed that they were not change the laws in the state of georgia. Then against the will for the vast majority of them voters in the state of florida it passed an extraordinarily restrictive bill. And that is what we are seeing, where it is passing it to passing against the will of the majority of folks in that state and even some republican lawmakers, especially women lawmakers, are saying that this is a loser for republicans. Americans dont want this and it is hard, i think, for republican legislatures to catch up to how much the National Sentiment has changed since dobbs. It is a totally different world from a year ago, the politics have shifted. Coleman, do you think that this is going to continue to be the thing that propels people to go to the polls. One of the big issues that they are going to be concerned about when it comes to 2024, . Even i think that if we learn anything tonight it is that there are a lot of independents and even some republicans who, they like republicans on crime, and on immigration, but on abortion they really prefer the Compromise Position that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare, and legal throughout the first trimester. So i think we are going to keep seeing these people and their Vote Mattering in certain instances and, like you said, this could become a losing issue for republicans. You did see some people pulling back from that, harry i want to talk to you about what ed since the Supreme Court overturned dobbs. What has been happening across the country . How many places have come up with a trying to change things in their State Legislatures and rules and have been knocked out . Yeah, we have had six Ballot Measures since roe v. Wade was overturned and when it came to abortion sentiment. And every, single one of those instances the proAbortion Rights side one. And were not just talking about blue states like vermont and california, were talking about red states. Were talking about places like kansas, places like the dakotas. We have seen montana, all of this type of stuff where we have seen clear instances in which abortion has been put on the ballot and, in those particular cases, what we have seen is the proAbortion Rights side has one and another little nugget that i will drop in here is that i was looking at the polling and i was looking at the voters who voted for barack obama in 2012, and then voted for trump in 2020. Those voters who are key to trumps coalition, come next year, or actually more in favor of Abortion Rights and against them. Its something to keep in mind. Thats fascinating. I want to keep the conversation going. However, we are getting this new information about georgia and the potential that there may be another case coming down the pipe for Fulton County and the dea there. This has been talked about by donald trump ad nauseam, there is some fallout from the beginning, how are you feeling about all of this . Do you think she is going to bring charges in this case . Well, certainly, the news broke yesterday that i actually did receive a subpoena for the additional grand jury that is going there, so i am eliminating want to speak about. But certainly, it is turning that direction. It is certainly that duffys had months if not years to pull all of this together. I think it is not only going to be when but who, and all of those details around it. So much of this as we unpack this, it Just Solutions and sort of problem that started in the oval office. I mean, that is really what this is all about. Dream up some crazy concocted idea and then go try to find micro points and facts and descended tweets and create a ground scurry. That is what we saw play out and it literally captured the attention of an entire party and even in years removed were still affected by it. Im curious, are you talking about donald trump doing it or are you talking about the Biden Administration doing that . Im talking specifically about the 2020 Election Cycle and donald trump in the oval office. In his administration, to watch that continue to stir the pot and put us in such a bad political position where we are today. It should be the easiest Election Cycles for republicans to win the white house, statistically speaking. It should be a layup for us, but we continue to put the weakest person, in my opinion, on the top of the list. But we still have time and there is a lot of work to be done. Do you think he has any chance of winning if he becomes the nominee . I do not. I think it would be the biggest gift ever, every dollar written to donald trump goes, in my opinion, directly to joe bidens campaign. Jeff . Diminishing returns on donald trump for years and he is not gaining the electorate in any of this. You could talk all day long about why corbin maga voters are unperturbed by these indictments, but fundamentally he cannot grow a share of the electorate and thats why i think anyone who looks at the numbers the says that there is no universe in which donald trump can beat joe biden. But something that decide, georgia is really interesting. So much of what the president has been claiming is that he cant get a fair trial and grand jury in the washington d. C. Because it is a blue city. Now he is potentially the case going before a georgia grand jury. Completely different political landscape, it is a purple state, democrats narrowly run this state. It is going to be very hard for him to make this, but it will be very hard. And ultimately, this is a jury that will decide this. Fani willis is serving the people of georgia who faced the disenfranchisement of their vote. I have something stuck in my throat. Lauren coleman, harry, jeff, i think i got it all right. 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An anthem has been written about it, arth being made, and there are owed to the folding share inventor nathaniel alexander, who is a black man. Why is a story about a fight on a boat dock in a small american town creating all this reaction . It has a lot to do with many black and brown folks feeling like they are under attack in different ways right now. From whitewashing American History in florida to a Famous Country singer using warning them what would happen if they did that in a small town. To the hopelessness of crime affecting black communities and this latest slight, today these are trumps words on the Campaign Trail about the black female d. A. In georgia. They say there is a young woman, a young racist in atlanta. And this is a person that wants to indict me. Shes got a lot of problems, but she wants to indict me to try to run for some other office. It is hard to fight against all that, but in this case, black people, in particular, showed up for each other. Black bystanders, men and women, jumped in to help the black cocaptain who is just trying to do his job. He faced an apparently unprovoked attack by a white man, and then a mob of people jumped on to him and beat him down until Black Bystanders ran, and even swam to his aid. Above the melee, both black and white people took the video doing their part so that one please did show up they could see what really happened and how it started. Joining me now is Montgomery Police chief daryl albert. Thank you, sir, for being here. Thank you very much sir, thanks for having me. Chief, you have rolled out crimes or rioting charges, but hate crimes in particular you have ruled those out. Why is that . Well, i tell you, we looked at it internally. We looked at the entire case in its totality and we looked at the merits of the case and we not only talked about these internally, but we have reached out to a local state and federal partners to say that we are heading down the right path, that we are a prying appropriate charges and based on the matrix for hate crimes, it just did not meet that threshold. I will say that this investigation is ongoing. I know you heard that, and the community has heard that over and over again, but it is ongoing. As new developments come forward we will and then charges as necessary, or as needed. So we continue to ask the public to provide those pieces of video, Surveillance Tools to come forward, and be good witnesses for elsa so that we can continue this investigat