The campaign. Plus, iowa not so nice. Hecklers turn up the heat and grill mike pence serving up a side of jeers with their deepf deepfried oreos and calling the former Vice President a traitor for doing his job. And a former republican says he doesnt need to wait for evidence to find out if hunter biden reaped rewards. Im dana bash. Lets go behind the headlines and inside politics. A win, kind of, coupled with a warning. The federal judge presiding over the President Trump 2020 Election Trial sides with the defense and rules against an attempt to totally restrict what their client can do or say with evidence. But that judge did establish clear limits to how trump can use what he learns from the lawyers in public, and this is important. She issued a stern warning to the former president , one, that everything he says is now under scrutiny. Another, is that the campaign will take a backseat to what happens inside her courtroom. Cnns Katelyn Polance is outside the federal courthouse. It sounds like the judge is trying to make very clear she is in charge as she believes the rule of law. Reporter this is going to set the tone for the entire case going forward. Its not just that this judge is in control here. It is also that justice comes first. That is the thing to underline from this hearing that she reiterated over and over again to the lawyers on both sides here. Some of the quotes today really were astonishing with how much the judge was emphasizing that Bigger Picture idea that justice comes first. This isnt about politics. And there can be limits on a persons speech even if they are running for president and especially when they are a criminal defendant so that they may have a fair trial. One of the things judge chutkan said the fact that hes running a political campaign, he has to yield to the administration of justice. If that means he cant exactly say what he wants to say in a political speech, that is just how its going to have to be. Shes saying that is not just about how much donald trump will be able to disclose evidence in this case that hes learning from the Justice Department, one of the decisions she made today was, yes, she can taylor things in the way that trumps team wants, that only sensitive evidence that they get will be protected and have a specific set of rules about how they can be handled and spoken about. But also, shes saying that anything that trump is learning that is sensitive, especially what hes learning from witness interviews, hes not going to be able to share more broadly. And hes under Bail Conditions and hes not going to be able to speak in a way that intimidates witnesses, period. So interesting. Thank you so much. Here to share their insights, former federal prosecutor and another former federal prosecutor. Nice to see you all. What a friday it is. First, ill start with the two of you who have been obviously in federal courts before. What do you make of two things. Lets start with the admonition from the judge and the first of all, its not just about that free speech is not limited and that he has to be careful, politics aside. Those are completely uncontroversial statements that are made controversial because you have a former president of the United States who is your defendant. But the idea that someones comments are public speech ought to bend the knee to the Criminal Justice something is something that isnt knew. If you have a defendant who is making public statements that might jeopardize Witness Safety or integrity of evidence, or the administration of justice, then you have to put restrictions on what they say. Yes, its donald trump, but this isnt that big a deal legally. No, legally. But, again, we dont live in fantasy lawyer land. We live in the real world. There are coincidencnsequences f this. And what they were in court for, on this protective order, she pretty much gave the trump team that they wanted, or at least the latest proposal they were giving to her. Its interesting, the whole defense is on the first amendment. The limitations that shes imposing here i think, its mostly, i think, agrees with what the trump team wants. Shes causing a fight over the definition of what will be sensitive and the obvious she says no big blanket order, only what is sensitive would be protected. The obvious solution so that is for the prosecution is just to designate very broadly whats sensitive. The downside for that is going to get a lot of litigation over that definition and you could end up going batch by batch over what is sensitive which could cause more delay as well. So its all sort of a doubleedge sword here. Here statement about the aspect of this is not going to be political, i find really intriguing. Garland has made such a big effort and never mentioned the word politics. In some senses i think now is trumps team is going to seize on that and say youre finally acknowledging that politics is a part of that. When we think about the rules of court as this goes back to the constitution as well. They really exist largely for the protection of the defendant and his ability to get a fair trial. And the kinds of things that can really screw up a conviction down the road are errors you make here and taking rights away from the defendant. Judges tend to be cautious about looking out for defendants, even ones that are political candidates and say a lot of nonsense. Thats an important point. The system we should reiterate this. The system is set up to protect defendants rights. And that includes when that defendant is a former president. Hes a citizen of the United States. I want to bring in the political calendar. And the ct that if you kind of okp on the screen, were talking today just about the the beginnings of th. The trial that this judge proposedas to start is to start on january 2nd, 2024. You see w close that is to the wa caucuses. Its not as if it will be done by january 15th which is the date that the iowa caucus is. What we donsee on the screen there, because we dont have the exact dates, thats just the first of the primary and caucus contest. You have new hampshire, south carolina, and then and then and then and then. The way this is set up right now, the trial and the deciding elections for the republican nominee are supposed to go hand in hand and be at the same time. Right. I mean, thats something that Donald Trumps team is very much leaning into. We saw the former president tweet about this yesterday, reeling against prosecutors, asking for that january 2nd trial start date. If the judge agrees to set it in early january, hes going to have to spend crucial time in the primary election season in court. And clearly it puts him on a Collision Course between his legal battles and his president ial campaign. One thing i found interesting from what the judge said today is that if donald trump or anyone in his team makes inflammatory statements, that will that will give her the motivation to want to have a trial even sooner. And so, of course, though, donald trump and his team want to delay this as much as possible as theyve done with the other with the classified documents case and other legal battles that hes facing. They want to try to delay any sort of trial until after the 2024 election. Of course, thats not what special prosecutors want. They want it to be speedy. But this is what were going to be seeing playing out over the next week or so, as donald trump responds to this yeah, their whole strategy . Each of these cases has been delay. Just in the way they have proceeded with some of the just basic rudimentary does the codefendant have a lawyer. In your experience being in these federal courts, how likely is it that this date that the judge proposed january 2nd, 2024, to start this Election Trial will slip. Im curious about chans view on this too. I think the thing that will be the hardest of all the deadlines set, they have ten working days to pick a jury. It seems to me that thats very aggressive and ambitious for what will be a controversial trial. Youre going to have to find 14 people who dont have views about donald trump or are certain that they can set them aside pro or con and thats aggressive. The rest of it seemed reasonable for a fast and aggressive trial. Im not that concerned about the ten days for the jury selection. I think it could done. Some judge like barrel through that. I do think i mean, generally trial dates tend to slip some anyway. I think what trumps team hasnt played yet is the specific scheduling issues. We talked about the iowa caucuses. Soon there will be other dates. 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As president of the United States, were going to protect americas children from gender transition. It wasnt until literally the last minute that the former Vice President addressed the elephant at the fairgrounds. I was always loyal to President Donald Trump until the day came that my oath to the constitution required me to do otherwise. But ill always be proud of the record of the trump pence administration. Jeff zelensy is live in des moines. Before coming on, we were talking about mike pence and you were observing the kind of reception he was getting. Yes, he was heckled, but you said that it seems like theres a bit of a different dynamic. Explain. Dana, theres no doubt that many republicans who are interested in turning the page and moving forward are giving mike pence a shot. We talked to one voter after that who said she has it narrowed down to mike pence or Florida Governor ron desantis. Yes, he has many supporters, but thats half the party. As the former Vice President , mike pence, of course, from indiana, hes been working through these crowds, he has been getting a strong reception from at least that onehalf of the party. But as you said, Iowa Governor kim reynolds, shes been rolling out the welcome mat for all of the candidates here. Shes been holding these conversations with them. All have accepted the opportunity accept donald trump. They have been squaring off back and forth, trump has accused her of not supporting him. He said i supported you in your race. We sat down with her yesterday and shes been neutral in the race so far. But she left open the door to the possibility of offering her endorsement or recommendation later in this cycle. Lets watch. Its really important that they feel that they have kind of a fair shot and theyre welcome here in iowa and we i want iowans to have the chance to interact with them. Youre not ruling out potentially an endorsement at the end of the process. I dont think you should ever say nevernever. Well wait and see what happens. Im probably looking at neutral, especially at the beginning of this. And she went on to say that she believes there could be many surprises in this race. She said five months is a long time. Of course, i asked her about the indictments facing the former president and she said iowans will have to make up their own judgment on that. Tomorrow here at the fair, iowans and others visiting from across the country will get a chance to size up and see both former President Donald Trump and Florida Governor ron desantis and other candidates as well, several will be visiting the fair here and sort of dueling appearances. As we talk to voters, important to keep in mind, many are sizing up the field and keeping an open mind on this. So this race, five months to go and many open questions. Jeff, thank you so much for that Great Reporting as always. Here with me at the table is our guests. Interesting comments that we just heard from the Iowa Governor about the notion of the possibility that she might endorse, i think she likely will. Well see what happens. But also about how wide open it seems on the ground in iowa despite what the polls are showing. I guess it would seem that way if youre at the fair and youre seeing crowds come out to see mike pence or the other candidates who are there. And theres obviously a romance to the fair. Its a great opportunity for candidates to go out and meet with voters where they are and show more human side. But im a little sceptical that this is that some i was there when donald trump came in in his helicopter in 2015, landed. There was a time when if you only spent an hour at the fair and you showed up a suit, there would have been bad headlines stand by. Im going to go to im announcing the appointment of david weiss as a Special Counsel consistent with the department of justice regulations governing such matters. In keeping with those regulations, i have today notified the designated members of each House Of Congress of the appointment. In february 2018, after being nominated by the former president and confirmed by the senate, mr. Weiss was sfwworn i. He served previously in the office for more than a decade. Beginning in 2019, mr. Weiss and along with federal Law Enforcement partners, began investigating allegations of certain Criminal Conduct by among others, Robert Hunter biden. That investigation has been recently referenced In Federal Criminal Proceedings in the district of delaware and as noted in those proceedings, and other public statements by mm mr. Weisss office, that investigation remains ongoing. In february 2021, u. S. Attorney weiss was asked to remain as u. S. Attorney for the district of delaware and in that capacity to continue to lead the investigation. As i said before, mr. 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