Of this week where things are finally going to happen. What is the significance of what we just heard from the former Lieutenant Governor there . Yeah, i mean, this is the culmination of a two and a half year Criminal Investigation that Fulton CountyDistrict Attorney fani willis has been overseeing. So the fact that witnesses have finally been put on notice with a day to appear before the grand jury that can actually issue indictments is an indication she is going to go before the grand jury, present her case potentially against donald trump and, you know, a dozen or so others and she going to ask this grand jury to hand up indictments. We have been told this presentation could take as long as two days. Its possible that she actually begins with this on monday and then we see some of these witnesses, including former Lieutenant Governor geoff duncan and george chidi showing up on tuesday. Now, you have interviewed k george chidi and talked to him. Thats going to be the second witness, as you just said. What should people know about him . George chidi is an interesting one because he is a democrat but also an independent journalist and accidentally stumbled on this meeting of the fake electors at the capitol in georgia. You know, he sort of felt like something fishy was going on, followed people around, got kicked out of the room where they were meeting, was told it was an education meeting. Come to find out its the meeting they were voting for donald trump as, you know, these sort of fake electors, even though joe biden won the state. He already testified before the special grand jury that collected evidence. So prosecutors know what he is going to say with they put him before this regular grand jury that they are going to ask for an indictment but he sheds light on the secrecy around this meeting and what folks were up to even though they eventually came out of the meeting and sort of admitted what they were doing. You have been down in georgia. You have been in that area. We know that there is Security Measures in place, that the d. A. Has gotten threats against her. What kind of paint the picture of what you think monday and tuesday are going to look like both outside the room where this is happening. We wont know what happens inside, but potentially what could be going on inside. Thats right. The presentation she make before the grand jury is done in secret. Its under seal. What i anticipate is she is going to go before in grand jury that has normally been Hearing Robberies and murders and sort of Run Of The Mill cases in Fulton County and that her team will say today you are going to hear a different kind of case and they will start to hear evidence collected by the special grand jury that her investigators are presenting or some of these live witnesses weve talked about sort of craft this narrative about what happened around the 2020 president ial election and efforts by trump and his associates so overturn the results. And outside i think we are going to see a locked down perimeter. The street in front of the courthouse is already closed for a couple of days. We have seen barricades. We have seen a big Police Presence because she has received a number of threats and they are very concerned not just about the District Attorneys safety, but the safety of the grand jurors and these to witnesses. Yeah, that makes sense. I also want to ask you, the District Attorney in this case is reportedly seeking more than a dozen indictments. Against trump, but also against some of his allies. Walk us through who some of these allies might be. Rudy giuliani probably chief among them. Yeah, i mean, we learned she is likely to seek charges gejs a dozen or more individuals. Rudy giuliani is a target in this investigation. He gave a conspiracyladen presentation before State Lawmakers there. He also played a role in sort of overseeing the fake elector slates across seven battleground states. I think there are other people that she is also going to be looking at. Obviously, donald trump, at the heart of this. A couple of the people who served as fake electors who didnt take Immunity Deals. David schaefer, the Republican Party chairman probably line the list. She will look at people involved in harassing campaigns against Election Officials and people who were involved in this breach in coffee county, georgia, have where a Voting System was compromised there. There are quite a few facets of this investigation which probably why its taken so long. Yeah. Sara murray, thanks so much. Appreciate you coming in. And for more on this, i want to turn now to a legal expert to talk about some legal analysis. Thats former federal prosecutor renato marotti. He is also host of the its complicated podcast. Thanks for coming in on a saturday evening. First up, what do you make of this information that were getting that the Lieutenant Governor, former Lieutenant Governor and also this second witness will be giving testimony before the grand jury in the next couple of days . Well, i think we are on mile 25 of the marathon, so to speak. I agree that this certainly means that an indictment is coming. A few months ago fani willis said an indictment is imminent. She got a little bit of criticism when it took longer than expected. These cases can be complicated. It looks like we are on the eve of an indictment now, and i think, you know, fact that they are upping security, she says you know, her prosecutors working from home, for example, that all suggests that were going to be seeing that fourth indictment of donald trump very soon. Of course, some other potential defendants as well. Right. And we know that duncan, geoff duncan, and 75 other witnesses is have already testified before a special purpose grand jury. As someone familiar with all this, explain the process of getting you all of that information from the special purpose grand jury to this new one. How does that all work . Great question. They dont have to put all of the information, every witness into the new grand jury. They just have to have enough information for the new grand jury to have the evidence in th they need to indict. Sometimes what you do essentially read over the testimony from the prior grand jury into the new one. Have someone literally read the transcript of what transpired in the other grand jury. The fact that they are calling live witnesses suggests to me they may have additional questions that came up during the course of their investigation. After all, the District Attorney has been trying to negotiate, as you pointed out, some Immunity Deals of some of the fake electors. What they will be doing now, putting evidence in front of the grand jury. There is no other side there. There is no defense asking difficult questions or crossexamining those witnesses. So as a result, the prosecutions going to put on the case. There are no rules of evidence that govern that. I would expect the grand jury to return an indictment and thats why i feel pretty confident at this point that we are going to see an indictment, you know, in the coming days or weeks. And if that end up happening and those indictments come down against trump and also some of his allies, how much of a challenge do you think its going to be for trumps team to defend because again just a reminder, this will be the fourth indictment that the former president had been part of, and what makes this different and how much of a challenge will it be for trumps legal team . Some big questions. As a starting point, one thing that people really underestimate or miss is how hard it is to defend a multi front war in criminal defense. I have done it. Myself personally. It is very, very challenging to represent a client that is facing criminal indictment on multiple fronts. While the prosecutor in this case, fani willis, and her team can focus like a laser on the what they need to do to get a conviction, trumps team has to balance a bunch of different competing concerns. In other words, if he makes a decision in this case, that can impact the other cases. The indictment she brings could have an impact, for example, witnesses who may testify elsewhere. Definitely a chepg for his team. They have a very compressed schedule to try to, you know, prepare for trial on multiple fronts. Also, this is an indictment that, you know, trump cannot easily do away with if he gets elected president. There is a Pardon Process in georgia that would not involve the president of the United States. It wouldnt even involve directly the governor of georgia. So there would be a pardon board that he would essentially go to. And the attorney general of the United States, who might be appointed by a future president trump, couldnt get rid of that investigation directly. Thats one challenge. This is also, unlike the manhattan case, which is also not a federal case, this involves the core conduct in his presidency. This is truly charging him with this conduct while president. Historic indictment, The First State indictment, charging a president of the United States with trying to subvert an election, trying to subvert the constitutional process and the peaceful transfer of power. Its an historic indictment. Its going to be a big challenge and its yet another thing for trumps team to deal with. It is. It is absolutely historic. And you make a great point to remind everyone, this is a state case that does make it different, especially when it comes to potential pardons that he could, you know, try to give to himself. Before you go, i do want to is ask you about the fact that there potentially could be other people, including trump, that are indicted in this as the d. A. Goes after charges of conspiracy and racketeering. Thats a bit of a different case. We have talked a olylittle bit about how everyone that is indicted is responsible and connected to the actions of the others. Help people understand how that is different than some of these other indictments that we have seen. Thats a great question. Lets draw a contrast with the january 6th indictment we just saw from jack smith. In that case, there is one defendant. Donald trump. There is all the other people who are unindicted coconspirators. People like, oh, i dont know, Rudy Giuliani, jeffrey clark, john eastman, crooked lawyers. But they were not charged. There is one defendant in the courtroom. That is donald trump. Here based on the reporting, it sounds like there may be a dozen people charged. What does that mean . First of all, there is potential flippers, people who are going to flip and cooperate against trump. In addition, these people may ultimately be witnesses in another case. For example, if Rudy Giuliani is facing an indictment in georgia, hypothetically, that may impact his desire to waive his Nift Amendment right and testify at a trial in d. C. Or elsewhere. So, you know, thats why i say there is an interplay between the cases that may work to trumps detriment. Makes sense. Thank you for your expertise. We appreciate it. Thank you. Still to come, trumps legal woes are casting a shadow on the 2024 president ial race. There is the political side of this. As the other gop hopefuls are trying to carve out a lane for themselves. We will take you like to the Iowa State Fair. Thats next. Plus, hawaiis Lieutenant Governor gives an update on the devastating wildfires that have now killed at least 80 people. And later, there a breakthrough in the negotiations between the Writers Guild and the studios to end this strike . We will bring you details ahead. Youre live in the cnn nbc news daily. Chevy silverado has what it takes to d do it all. 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It comes as we learn a possible fourth criminal indictment against the former president could now come as soon as this week. Cnns jeff zeleny is live there in iowa for us. Jeff, trumps legal troubles really do not seem to have impacted his supporters there. Reporter jessica, certainly so the split screen that the former president will be navigating over the next several months as he runs for president and contends with all of these legal challenges really at the very time that the news was breaking about the developments in georgia, the former president was landing here. He was definant, defending that phone call in georgia. He spent a little under a couple hours here in a very well planned and choreographed appearance. He didnt meet with many members of the public who were not already supporters. These are tightly controlled events. As he was leaving town, he was asked specifically about the georgia case and if he would ever accept a plea deal. Knows surprisingly, he was defiant about that as well. Is there any chance you take a plea deal in georgia . We did nothing wrong. Dont ever take a plea deal. Its a wise guy question. We dont take plea deals because i did nothing wrong. Its called election interference. You know what that is . Cant even put two sentences to go. Reporter from the three indictments he already has, facing him and the one potential additional indictment in georgia. When you talk to his true believers, without question are still with him, they believe that he is being ganged up on in the words of one voter. Ef said he will take nothing for granted and will continue to be campaigning here aggressively over the next five months. But the question is, will his stand going in the polls drop at all, will his standing in peoples minds drop at all as these indictments unfold . We will have to watch that play out. Right. That is lake the big question, right . 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