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CNNW CNN July 4, 2024

Hello again, everyone. Thank you so much for joining me. Im Fredricka Whitfield in washington, d. C. We begin this hour with exclusive new reporting on the investigation into Donald Trumps efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Sources tell cnn that georgia prosecutors now have Text Messages and emails directly connecting trumps legal team to a Voting System breach in Coffey County georgia in january 2021. This comes as the District Attorney investigating trump in georgia appears to be close to an indictment. Fani willis is expected to bring charges against a dozen people. If she brings charges against the former president , it will be his 12th since leaving officers. Zach, tell us all that you know. Reporter yeah, fred. Its a south georgia county, heavily republican, trump carried the vote by 70 there. But prosecutors do have Text Messages that Connect Members of trumps legal team to the breach that happened in the Election Office where operatives hired by lawyers like Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani did gain access to Voting Systems in 2021. The Text Messages show you the process and the planning that went into this breach and how trump attorneys were helping coordinate efforts to get access to this Voting System in this rural republican county. Rudy giuliani is someone that his lawyers vehemently denied had any involvement, pointing the finger at sydney powell but these Text Messages do show that lawyers working for Rudy Giuliani were involved in that planning process. Theres one that even mentions the mayor, which is something that weve seen operatives that have been working for the Trump Campaign refer to Rudy Giuliani as in other communications. So really connecting some of the dots here and drawing a more direct line between former president Donald Trumps attorneys and this breach that happened in Coffey County that is part of the fani willis investigation. And what do we think this week is going to look like . Were expecting the Fulton County d. A. Willis coming out with indictments as soon as next week. Over a dozen people could face criminal charges, including former President Donald Trump. Thats expected to ramp up here in the early days of next week. Zachary cohen, thank you so much in atlanta. So Downtown Atlanta is bracing for a possible Trump Indictment. Security measures at the courthouse where the grand jury will meet this week are already under way. For more on that, lets bring in Isabel Isabelle rosales outside the courthouse in atlanta. What is the situation . Reporter as you would expect for an event of this scale, Fulton County taking this s seriously. I took a lap around the courthouse here and there are Law Enforcement officers all over each road here. And also these orange and white barricades are surrounding the building and they are closing down streets. So this is a heavily controlled area thats only going to get more intense as we get closer to this thing. Its not just the building that theyre protecting but the very visible face behind this investigation, the prosecutor, the lead prosecutor fani willis. She has received according to a source with knowledge of atlanta Law Enforcement movements additional Security Protection near her home. And willis has recently also urged local officials to stay vigilant about possible security threats. In an email obtained by cnn, she shared messages, sexualized and violent and racist messages that she had received. And included she also mentioned on scene voice mails that she had received. Now, the man in charge of the Security Measures here is the sheriff of Fulton County. That is patrick labat. He says his team is prepared and what helps with the legal woes that donald trump has faced is that hes been able to take notes, the sheriff, in new york and d. C. And miami, and hes coming back here and making sure that their security is solid. Listen. So weve planned for months to really understand the daytoday really coverage of what this looks like. So we put a lot of resources in place. Our goal is to stay focus and ive said this before, were ready. Weve seen trump over the past couple of months attacking willis, not only during Campaign Events but also on truth social. And willis has previously said that that rhetoric from him has escalated security concerns. Weve seen that since early 2022 where willis actually asked the fbi for help in protecting staff and protecting the official buildings here after donald trump called prosecutors, quote, racist. Fred. Isabelle, thank you so much Downtown Atlanta. Let me bring in now harry littman, former prosecutor and attorney general. Great to see you. Help us understand the significance, the gravity really, of the prosecutors having texts and emails directly connecting members of Donald Trumps legal team to the early january 2021 Voting System breach in coffee county, georgia. Its big. Weve known about the breach but had no idea that it could have been overseen or even the moving forces would have been so high up in the Trump Campaign. Giuliani is about as high as you go. And its a crime well, first of all, its crimes many crimes when you have this sort of violation of computers, both new Fangled Computer Laws and Old Fashioned Trespass Laws and it falls under the category what were they thinking . Its so plainly a violation. Its so plainly something that a campaign cant get involved in. And we might have thought before then it had been on the ground, people who didnt know one from the other, but giuliani, powell, that really puts it up very high. And the third point is, nothing like it is in jack smiths indictment and this becomes one of the several details we effect expect to see from fani willis that will supplement and reinforce the broad charges that jack smith has brought on the federal side. And is it your view because were talking about, you know, the highest of the levels among trumps legal team that would allegedly be involved here, is it your thinking that the prosecutors may have already connected any dots between them and any possible directives from trump himself . Well, we know that there are other instances like the false electors in which evidence has been proffered to show just that. Was he involved in the actual incursion into the computers . We know that he was involved in at least talking about seizing computers under a crazy plan with the d. O. D. , but of course the distinctive thing about the willis indictment that were waiting on is it has so many defendants. So even if its simply that this crime stops at powell and giuliani, its still very damning of the campaign as a whole and will be part and parcel of charges that certainly will include trump in many fashions, if not this one specifically. And, harry, we know that this Georgia Investigation really got started after trump called the State Secretary Of state, pressuring him and others to find voltstes for him in early january 2021 as the official election showed that he lost. Take a listen for those who may have forgotten what that call soundeli. All i want to do is this. I just want to find is 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. So do you still see that phone call, the president called it a perfect phone call, do you see that phone call as key to any possible Trump Indictment . Oh, yeah. It is a perfect phone call for prosecutors. Nothing like an audiotape that way, and you can just put those words up on the screen and theyll do it repeatedly and it screams out solicitation to commit Election Interference, which is one of the leading charges i expect from this indictment when it comes out say tuesday or wednesday. And if trump is charged, it would be his fourth indictment. You know, where would this georgia case rank, in your view, against the other cases in terms of legal threats for trump . Well, on the one hand this is sprawling and its not subject to pardon. On the other hand its complicated and he has certain legal challenges that he cant do in other places. I dont think its as challenging for him nor as sobering as the 16 indictment that may now be the first trial to go. But i think its just after that when you look at the panoramic detail that we expect is going to be charged here and the fact that it cant be pardoned. I think its a very, very serious set of charges. Also in some ways more challenging than some of the others. Thats a different point. But on the overall list of the kind of broad, historical indictment of trump, i think its second only to the january 6th indictment on the federal side. All right, got it. Harry, thanks so much for your expertise. Appreciate it. Thank you, fred. All right, coming up, the death toll from wildfires in maui climbs to 93 as searchandrescue missions continue. So far just 3 of the fire zone has been searched. Well have the latest next. Plus, switch, keep your number, and get t up to 300 off. With verizon business. Its your business. Its your verizon. Viruses. Bacteria. Air fresheners are no match for them. Introducing new lysol air sanitizer. It helps protect your family from coughs and sneezes and eliminates odors in your home. It even has three fresh fragrances to choose from. Unlike air fresheners, one spray kills 99. 9 of viruses and bacteria in the air because scent cant sanitize, lysol can. 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Cnn mike valerio joining me live on maui. Whats the latest from what youre hearing. Reporter well, fredricka, i think we have to start off with how we are witnessing the entry into the Disaster Zone and right here just off the side of the road, it is night and day from when we were with you 24 hours ago. So what we mean by that is this is the only way in to the Disaster Zone, compared with yesterday there was a lot of conflicting information. People werent really sure where to go, when they could go. So these officers in the Yellow Jackets who just started their shift changing, beginning 12hour shifts, they are checking to make sure that everybody who comes up a p the high highway is a resident. They dont want tourists or people from other parts of maui coming in. Theyre trying to tightly control who accesses this very sensitive geography of the island. A couple of minutes ago we were able to speak to a woman who lives in nearby khana, a couple minutes outside of the epicenter of this crisis. Were going to hear from her what it was like the afternoon the fire started and what it like going in and out of the zone. Watch. We did not know anything that was going on really in lahaina. We couldnt get out of our house. We had no Running Water, no electricity and no nothing. We got stuck there and i had no idea what was going on two miles down the road. We had no information. My cousins over there right now taking care of everything but we dont have any good Running Water or anything. So, yeah, its and i went back to go get two generators and 25 gallons of gas to come back over and i waited in line for four and a half hours thinking that i could get through and a fight started when i was there. So that gives you an idea, you know, fights started, people fighting over gas and resources. It is such a sensitive situation inside the zone. Thats why many police doing double duty controlling entry and law and order inside perimeter. Theyre exhausted but they are still going. Fred, we want to put up a map we made within the past few minutes. Think of a counterclockwise motion from where we are at 2 00 to 9 00. That is how people are being allowed to go in rather than Different Directions and down here an extremely treacherous roadway. People have a onelane road to deal with. So that is showing you how desperate it is, how dangerous it is if theyre saying this onelane road is the best way for people to get inside the zone to check on what survived and who survived. Fred . Yeah. Am i mean, there arent that many routes on maui to get around. And that also better explains why we saw in that spedup video that you showed earlier how long the lines were because that is the primary route to get to that location. Mike valerio, thank you so much for that. Behind every house and storefront burned on the island of maui, there is a story. For rock n roll artist ruby mizour, it was his lifes work that went up in flames. He was set to open up a new art gallery just as the fire swept through the town. 100 of his paintings were lost. We spoke to him and asked him about what he experienced on tuesday. My sons called and said, dad, it r its really getting bad. I said, well, better come become here because its not looking good here either. They tried to get out of lahaina and they were closing down the road because of the flames. And they got out. It was a miracle they got out. They came up to my house and they saw all the furniture on my deck, everything was being thrown around like toothpicks and they go, dad, we got to go now. And i said, you know what, if its going to be really bad, lets get a hotel room. Not one hotel had a room available. Nothing. We were calling 15 hotels. Not one room. So my other son said, you know what, lets get a uhaul. I said okay. We got two uhauls, we went to walmart, bought blowup beds and we have four dogs in the car. We bought two blowup beds, blankets, sheets, pillows, bottles of water and we went and took the two uhauls to the parking lot of the airport to sleep there. And the next thing we knew, lahaina was gone. Lahaina was completely gone. My lifelong work of 50 years painting rock stars gone. And ive been having calls from people, collectors, from all over the world. And last night one collector called back and she said, this painting we bought from you a couple of years ago, we paid a lot of money for it. Wed like to send it back to you so you could sell it and get some money. People are amazing. Ruby, i cant imagine what its like for you now. When you saw the images of front street, you know, not just your gallery in ruins but all your artwork gone, what went through your mind . Well, john, i just beat cancer for the third time. I had bladder cancer, i had a brain tumor, they gave me six months to live and

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