Of my friends and colleagues who believed in the fake electors, fraudulently, were the ones talking to fani willis . I want to thank everyone for staying up late. Im going to leave so laura coates can take my seat shes going to be anchoring with kaitlan collins, so i want to hand it over to her right now. Our special breaking News Coverage continues now, the grand jury indictment of donald trump and others in Fulton County, georgia. Im kaitlan collins, the indictment 98 pages. What it contains is stunning. 45th president of the United States indicted on State Charges stemming from his and other efforts to overturn joe bidens election win in the state of georgia. Prosecutors alleging tonight that trump and others joined in a conspiracy to unlawfully change the outcome of the 2020 election. 18 other defendants are named in this indictment, including trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, mark meadows, john eastman, kenneth chesebro, jeffrey clark, and jenna ellis, just to name a few. All 19 are facing Racketeering Charges and prosecutors allege that they participated in a Criminal Enterprise with 30 Unindicted Coconspirators. Lets begin tonights coverage with paul reid, whos outside the courthouse there in atlanta. Paula, read through these 98 pages but we just heard from the District Attorney, fani willis, and she was saying that she is going to try all of these 19 defendants together, she says. Yeah, that was really surprising that that is how she would want to proceed on this case. You can do it, but as one of our colleagues said earlier it is like trying an entire Football Team at one time. In the immediate future she has given all of those defendants until next friday at noon to surrender and she would not commit to exactly when she wants to bring this case, but did it seem to suggest that she would request a date in the next six months. Kaitlan, as we, know the calendar is getting quite crowded with all of the possible trials, both criminal and civil, that the former president is facing. Now, looking at this indictment i was about 20 pages and she lays out her theory of the case and highlights the key areas that she then goes into really specific detail on, including the efforts to install fake electors, to put forth a fake slates of electors, to undermine the Electoral College process, the harassment of election worker rudy freeman, and also alleged efforts to solicit the Justice Department. We know the former president was leaning on his own Justice Department tried to interfere here in georgia and she also pointed to the Pressure Campaign faced by former Vice President mike pence. She also talks about Breaching Voting Equipment and then filing false statements. At a highlevel, thats how she lays out her case. One thing that struck out to me is that she does not just include details from georgia, she also includes details from arizona, pennsylvania, and michigan. So this is a case that is being brought in georgia, but the conspiracy that if she is laying out, the story that she is telling stretches across the United States. And paula, another thing from that Press Conference, sara murray our colleague asked her about coordination with jack smith, the Special Counsel here. And he contact between the two of them. She did not to say no. I know, it was so weird because there wouldnt be anything improper, particularly just logistically talking to the Special Counsel. So it was surprising that she wouldnt answer. Now, perhaps just trying not to defeat into political attacks from the former president and other people as suggesting that it is part of a larger politically biased conspiracy that could have been her motivation. But it was surprising that she really dodged on that. In addition to the bigger question that she will the Special Counsel about which was the timing for this trial. And then kind of said as an aside they will be requesting something in the next six months. It was surprising since she had this Press Conference that she did not give more specificity on some of these key questions. We will see what else she has to say about, this and of course when the polar, eat outside the courthouse in atlanta, thank you. Joining me here tonight at the table is cnn political commentator bakari sellers, Our Cnn Political Commentator scott jennings, legal analyst jennifer rodgers, and federal prosecutor williams, a Senior Investigative counsel for the january Six Committee. Let me start with you, just reading through this indictment but seeing what the District Attorney had to say there, it doesnt surprise me that she said that she wants to try all 19 of these codefendants together . I think it is quite surprising. In the private media as the federal prosecutor and the logistics of that trial would be daunting, so i do think she may want to do that, but i think practically that may be some issues with that going forward. Jennifer rodgers, what do you make not just of that, but saying that she has until August 25th At Noon to come and surrender themselves two days after the primary debate . These are not career criminals, theyre not folks that you think are gonna flee the country so theres not much concern about letting them come in their their own thats why they were public and not arrested through an arrest warrant. Its not surprising to me. What was your Thought Reading through this 97page indictment . Just the scope of it. We had heard it was going to be a sweeping scope, but the notion of all of these people, including new people that we hadnt been hearing about, like jen ellis for example, mark meadows who has been m. I. A. For so long in all these cases and everybody has been wondering if he has cooperated. Apparently is not cooperating, at least not with fani willis because hes been indicted. So those are some of the surprises for me. What about you . I think, im not quite as surprised. I mean from the perspective of the committee, gianna ellis was one character that we had been well aware of. She is really in the belly of the beast of this conspiracy. I am surprised that fani willis chose to charge so many people at the same time. Compared to what jack smith did, when you have more defendants are going to have a diffused focus. More motions, its going to be a bit more of a beast to handle. She went the other, way jack smith clearly went with just two trump, tried to get it done as soon as possible. She clearly, at some point along the way decided im not going to worry about the timing, im just going to put everything in and everybody in and let the restaurant shake out. What does the calculation in decision like that . Its not just trump and the 18 other codefendants here, there are 30 Unindicted Coconspirators that are listed in this indictment as well. I think what she is doing here is really telling a story. I think jack smiths story is about what if President Trump too, by himself, he is sitting there on the pedestal by himself. I think here we are talking about a massive conspiracy, a group of individuals coming together, and i think we go charges support that narrative. So what she wants us to take from this indictment is that all of these people coordinated, conspired, worked together to try to overturn this election. Scott jennings, one of the things that we heard from trump, even before it was concerned that he was indeed indicted, which we expected, is that this was political interference in the election. She was asked about that and said that this is completely nonpartisan when it comes to the law. That is not how trump and his supporters are going to portray her. They are going to portray her as a partisan democrat who is doing this for political reasons in a county that overwhelmingly voted for joe biden and in a county where she is elected by those people. On the indictment, i have to say, whether you are pro trump or anti trump on, this it is a startling thing to read. That the president of the United States was the head of a, quote, criminal organization. When you see that on printed paper it is pretty startling. We think about georgia for trump, all of the, i mean this is a waterloo place for him. He will lost in 2020, sailed to oust brian kemp the governor, is handpicked candidate for the senate lost, and now hes indicted in this sprawling indictment. So you think about the role that the state of georgia might play in his ultimate downfall, or resurgence if you somehow beats all this, and i will just once a final issue. This case, the january six case, the documents case, i dont to see how the American People can not know the outcomes of these things before they vote. I recognize you cant get all these things in before the primary, but if hes the nominee of the Republican Party how can the American People not see the results of this before they were to cast votes next november when they consider everything thats been alleged here . She wants them to know, she wants this trial she is in a requested date for six months . I want to push back a little bit on the narrative about the number of defendants that she actually indicted in the biting of this big apple. When you look at what phony has done over her tenure there, whether or not it is why fm, why scl, two very large, well known rap groups in atlanta georgia. She has actually indicted young thug right now and our viewers are googling like crazy who is young fog. It is like the longest jury Selection Process going on right now in a rico conspiracy case and yes, it is taking more time than six months. I think she can handle this, i do think she can indict all of these individuals at one time, i think that fanis issue is going to be when you try to get this done in six months, to scotts point. But this was a very thorough process. Many times when you see a civil rights case and you see something happen, lets not forget that i believe this event occurred one day after she was elected. We want people to rush the judgment. She actually had a grand jury that was in place for months, although the grand jury did not have the power to indict. The grand jury was in place for months with the power to subpoena, the power to investigate. This is a very thorough investigation. Thats why when you look through this and you read, it its like it gets juicy around act 30 or 31. You could pick out one of these are your favorite character. I also think theres going to be a sympathetic figure throughout all of this. People are going to start to look we hear Donald Trumps name we hear fani williss name she is a bad bad woman, i love her. I want to protector but rudy freeman, for example . These individuals are going to come to, play the victims of this are not just the voters of georgia, but the real people. When you start to look at it, its not some abstract voter this or voter that but the persecution that ruby freeman had to go through, the torture, the torment that she had to go through, i think that is going to do very well in front of a jury, regardless of whether or not they are democrats or republicans. One of the people that is indicted here is somebody who tried to intimidate rudy freeman personally and tried to coerce her into making false statements, which is a bizarre aspect of this, but also concerning. You are laughing and people are kanye wests former publicist, one of the 19 youve got to dig a little bit. You not only have that, but you have one of the coordinators for black voices for trump. This entire conspiracy just, lets back up. Lets give you on a few trials where everything that youre going to be able to see live on tv. The judge has already said that cameras are going to be there, there are going to be mugshots and fingerprints. Every hearing, every emotion is going to be live on tv. This is going to be a very different setting for donald trump. One thing that stands out to me is that we look at all the tentacles that this has. Giuliani is the second name of this list of the codefendants here who have been indicted. The fact that he has been indicted on Racketeering Charges, what is now going to be known to everyones rico charges, that is what he used to bring down members of Organized Crime, mafia, members upset how he made his name as a prosecutor in new york is using the same laws that are now being used against him. Yeah, as the head of the office that i used to work for when i was a doj, it is a sad thing to see what rudy has fallen to from the crime buster, The Mafia Buster that he used to be. But i you read through all of the allegations here and they saw a lot of this evidence before it came out in The Public Eye before the january Six Committee hearings and elsewhere, and it is a compelling story of Rudy Giuliani knowingly blatantly lying. Blatantly defrauding the State Legislature in georgia. This is backed up by stuff and its sad to see him fall thus far, but hes done it to himself. I just want to comment really quickly and scott, please, chime in because you know this better than i. But even in georgia, he doesnt have any republicans rushing to his rescue. You have the legal downfalls and pitfalls but you also have the political. The governor of georgia is not going to come out with a statement and say oh my god this is an abuse of justice. Lieutenant governor is a star witness. I mean he testified today. On top of that the governor of georgia i guess cant pardon him. The way it works in other states. I had to ask this question today of brian kemps team, is it up to him . And they said no. So it does raise a lot of issues. Part of his campaign on this federal charge that he is facing and these other cases, if this is going on or he gets convicted and wins, i guess he can get himself out of that. I dont know how you get out of this. How do you get yourself out of this . It is obviously a crazy scenario to think about, but one that it is, nonzero at this point. Thats why its so striking, because its the one where he does not have that insulation from being reelected. I wonder what you think reading through this, given the work of the january Six Committee and youre reading about ruby freeman and shaye moss and their names and how theyre going to come and testify. It one of the most gripping testimony of the entire public january 6th congressional hearings. Now to see them spy to specifically. Well first of all, you are right. It was incredibly gripping testimony and i think what it showed was how the former president was willing to use his pulpit against individual citizens. People who he knew did nothing wrong, and he attacked them, he sent his dogs on, them and they suffered great harm because of that. And i think that moment in our hearings really showed the American People the damage that is done on a very individual basis when the president , the former president , attacks specific people. I think, too, mayor Giuliani Point as well. He used a lot of racial language when you talked about these two women, suggesting that they were passing drugs between them or somehow calling them hustlers. I think that part of the tone here, when we are talking about georgia, were talking about Fulton County, i think it is a critical component as well. Can i say one thing about these ladies . Ive worked in elections for over 20 years all over the country. I have known Volunteer Election Workers in just about every jurisdiction over the country. Our elections are defused for a reason and they depend on people just like this and to watch them get dragged was sickening. I hope they get justice for what happened to them. Criminally or civilly or whatever they have got coming, because what happened to them, we cannot and elections. When you take private citizens and have famous people drag them through the mud. We wont have Election Workers if this is allowed to stand. I thought that was the one the most sickening things that happened at this election. Im glad to see that somethings going to be done about it. Laura, of course, looking through this just reading the names in here. Mark meadows, mike, Roman Harrison floyd, those are high ranking white house officials. Campaign officials who have been indicted in the State Charges in georgia. I mean look at this yearbook photograph here in this. Think about it, when i look at this i think to myself that there are some who are very powerful, and maybe have the means, others who are not going to be, comparatively speaking, and how that might influence the level of cooperation knowing that there are mandatory minimums if convicted as well. Thank you, i want to bring in right now david to show and who is the lead counsel for then President Trump in his second impeachment trial. David, its good to see you. On another, frankly, history continues and it continues to be in the making when it comes to donald trump. By my tabulation, and it is a rough one, it just after midnight, we are talking nearly 100 different charges in total for this f