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CNNW The July 3, 2024

We begin with news of a potential meeting between two of washingtons biggest geopolitical rivals. Kim jongun may be heading to russia where he would meet face to fmeet facetoface with President Putin. Kylie, first to you. How does the u. S. View this meeting . Sounds troublesome. Well, listen. A spokesperson said that the u. S. Is urging north korea to cease negotiations. Any Arms Negotiations with russia. This comes as xis also saying the u. S. Has information that its kim jongun who is expecting to have a meeting to engage with President Putin in russia. Of course, this comes as we have heard from u. S. Officials over the last week or so that there are active pursuits between north korea and russia now of an additional arms deal between the two countries. W we dont know exactly when this meeting between putin and kim jongun could come, but New York Times which first reported on the possibility of this engagement is that their reporting is that its supposed to happen this month. Weve seen some what would be potential leg work for this meeting in recent months. We should note the Russian Defense minister traveled to north korea in july according to the nse. That was an effort to try and convince north korea to sell artillery to russia. We know there was a follow on meeting by russian officials to north korea following that meeting. According to the nse, putin and kim jongun have exchanged letters over the course of the last few months committed to deepening their relationship. When it comes to what could be in this new Arms Agreement between the two countries, heres what john kirby said about that to reporters last week. Under these potential deals, russia would receive significant quantifies and multiple types of munitions from the twrk, which the Russian Military plans to use. These deals could include raw materials. Now, late last year, north korea also sold infantry rockets to russia so this wouldnt be the first time that north korea would be providing russia with Military Support for use on the battlefield in ukraine but u. S. Officials have made it a focal point of theirs to try and reveal the possibilities for countries to provide support to russia before it happens in an effort to try and deter the countries from going ahead with that. Well continue to watch and see when this potential engagement between putin and kim jongun actually happens. Thank you very much. Lets go to south korea to get more reaction on this story. Paula, what are you hearing from your sources in seoul about the potential of an arms deal between north korea and russia . I have to think that their ears are perking up over there in seoul. Absolutely, jim. Yes. This is something very similar that we have been hearing from the nis here, the Intelligence Agency. Just last month, they said they believed there was a deal that was about to be put in place pointing out the fact that the rus Russian Defense minister came to pyongyang in july was really when this was brought up. They go on further though. They point out what north korea gets out of this potential deal. The nis saying they believe that there could be a reciprocal deal that russia could be giving missile or Nuclear Technology know how to pyongyang. We know thats happened in the past. Also saying they could be looking looking for more technical know how on how to repair weapons and old equipment. Thats what the Intelligence Agency is saying that north korea could get out of this. But it is very clear that we saw in july when he was in pyongyang, he was at the Military Parade with kim jongun. He was woalking around an arms exhibition. It was a clear message kim was giving, that this was his diplomatic priority. Hes moving closer to russia. He also had chinese officials at the Military Parade as well. At the same time, as any outreach from washington or seoul is being largely ignored from north korea. One other point to make is sanctions. That north korea is one of the heaviest sanctioned countries on earth. The fact there are multiple u. N. Security Council Resolutions permitting many deals with pyongyang. These are sanctions that russia signed on to in the past but certainly that is a concern from the u. S. Side and the u. N. Side as well, saying that they will sanction entities who are going to be doing these potential deals with north korea. On the south korean side, still in indication on when a possible meet up between the two leaders could happen. The last time they met was in april 2019 when kim jongun went to the eastern part of russia. He went there with his armored train potentially that could be another meeting spot again, but at this point, theres no clarity on when that meeting could happen. The whole worlds going to be watching to see how this relationship develops. Meanwhile, as russias defensive positions frustrate ukraine, cnn is getting a look at some Drone Operators trying to clear the way. Melissa, what is it like for these Drone Operators near the front line . So interesting spending this night with ukraines Security Service. Those munitions that russia is desperately trying to get to feed its war effort, ukraine as well, were also hearing from Military Leaders here over and over again. It is ammunition we lack. What we witnessed that night were there attempts to make sure they have get to the right target because theyre so precious and in such short supply. Ukraine Security Service preparing for a raid across enemy lines. In a war of artillery and drones and plenty of creativity. It looks almost like theyre, like a toy. Toy with some upgrades and some innovation. Some magic. Enough magic that this specially made drone will travel far beyond the zaporizhzhia front line. In search of a Russian Air Defense system, it flies deep into Enemy Territory towards a town that is one of the main objectives of the southern counteroffensive. Tack mack. At the other end of the phone and watching the same screen, a high mars unit is ready to launch. The call sign of this drones Unit Commander is bank here, a reminder of his life before the war when this land was still cr ukrainian. This is russian vehicles moving. This is check point, russians. But tonight, theyve been unlucky. The air Defense System they wanted to hit is no longer there. Home for tonight is a field about 15 kilometers north of the front line using only red lights to avoid detection, theyve got a birds eye view of the battle below and whats happening beyond. We are hunting for them. For some time. We have some results. We know where theyre hiding. We know where they are moving. So its about time just to find them. Each time it fly, the drone records precious information. The state of Russian Defenses, vehicles and systems being moved even if tonight a Russian Air Defense system and its four to five officers were unbeknownst to them were spared. We are not disappointed. We will continue to do it. Until, he says, every last inch of ukrainian territorys been freed. How long long that takes. What they told us also that night we spent with them in this field, jim, is that theyve been watching these defenses go up ever since March Of 2022 here in the zaporizhzhia region. And what the russia army doesnt have is good fighters. What it puts young men to use for is digging an bd building. Thats what the southern counteroffensive is butting up against. It is making limited process, but it is extremely difficult. Still, ukrainians believe there is some momentum here and theyre trying to consolidate those gains to the south. Still, they can see precisely what lies ahead for them and its a lot of work, a lot of losses and no doubt a lot of time still. A fascinating look at a crucial part of this war. Melissa, thank you very much. For more on these developments, im joined by bruce clinger, former cia Deputy Division chief for korea. Also joined by jean lee, the former Pyongyang Bureau chief for the associated press. Thanks. Bruce, just how significant is this potential meeting between putin and kim to negotiate an arms deal and why now . Its very worrisome and weve seen in the last year theres been growing, improving relations between north korea and russia and its largely focused on military developments. So far, the developments have been north korea providing ammunition to russia. A year ago, there were reports that they would provide millions of ammunition rounds. That number seems high unless it includes small arms rounds but most likely 152 millimeter rounds and multiple rocket rounds that they have a lot of and which is compatible with russian equipment. So and weve also seen ukraine captured some of that ammunition and then using it to fire back at russia although it was fairly unreliable. Its a worrisome development and now it seems russia may be providing technology to improve north Korean Military capabilities. That is also very worrisome for the u. S. As well as critically important allies, japan and south korea. And that brings me to jean. You spent an extensive amount of time reporting inside north korea. What do you make of putin and kim . I suppose most of the conversation would be about impli implications for ukraine but theres a lot to discuss about how north korea might be able to upgrade its technology and so on. I would say its such an interesting time for north korea as the country comes out of more than three and a half years of self selfimposed isolation. Ive been saying kim was going to make this reemergence after the sell bcelebration in july, e was dwgoing to set the stage to reemerge. So he is resurrecting and strengthening this Traditional Alliance with russia at a pivotal time. This is a way for him to reassure his people that they may have been isolated for three years but havent been forgotten by this superpower. And because of the border closures, they are in desperate need of food, supplies and perhaps the technological know how to help them get their military, their nuclear program, to the next level. There isnt often a time when north korea, one of the poorest countries in the world, can offer something to russia, but here is a moment where putin has very few friends and north korea has something that he needs. It comes at a time when they are standing together in opposition to a u. S. Led coalition at the u. N. Security council where theyre facing sanctions. So its very interesting for me. Im not completely surprised but loick like bruce, im very worried because it clearly has implications that go beyond the korean peninsula. They extend globally in terms of proliferation and in terms of the war in ukraine. Bruce, it sounds as though both sides, north korea and russia, may be acting out of some desperation. It sounds like they need each other here. Exactly. The fact that russia which has extensive Production Capabilities for Artillery Weapons as well as ammunition, the fact theyre scrounging for ammunition shows how desperate they are. It shows that russia is very desperate. The artillery of those that Ammunition Caliber is very old and as weve seen with some operations in ukraine, its unreliable. But also as jean pointed out is north korea is hurting very much economically. Not only from its Covid Isolation and international sanctions, but its decades of failed socialist economic policies. So these are two beggars who are very much in need of each other. Jean, bruce, thanks to both of you very much. Really appreciate those insights. Thanks so much. Just ahead, this is what theyre calling the exodus. Youre looking at live pictures of black rock city, nevada, as were going to go live to the Nevada Desert where Tens Of Thousands of festivalgoers are finally able to go home after days of being trapped by a dangerous mixture of rain and mud. Stay with us. Raise e the jar to flavors from the worlds finest ingngredients. And now, from jars to bars. New Talenti Gelato and sorbetto mini bars. From big cities, to small towns, and on main streets across the us, youll find pnc bank. Helping businesses both large and small, communities and the People E Grow and thrive. Were proud to call these places home too. 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Its your vision, its your verizon. In nevada, thousands of people are finally escaping a dangerous situation at a festival where a rare onslaught of mud kept them trapped for days. Camilla, youve been out there more than 24 hours now and it sounds like the log jam is finally breaking and people can go home. Where do things stand now . Reporter yeah, people are very happy they can go home but they are going to have to wait. The exodus is underway. It is full blown but the problem is that everybody has to wait in this line and it takes hours. I want to just give you some perspective with the camera above me just so you can see where im standing and why people are having to wait hours and hours to get out of here. This is the norm. People usually take a long time to get out of here. The problem is this time around, theyre coming out extra muddier and extra happy to be out because the last couple of days have been very difficult. Its a real sloppy mess out there. Tens of thousands of people stuck at burning man in the Nevada Desert over the weekend after heavy rains made a mess of the dirt roads. We drove out and got stuck and made one bad decision. It was up to here. Hundreds of cars ended up stranded on roads leading out of the Black Rock Desert in the northwestern part of the state. Everything was shut down and getting out was a nightmare. Paul and his wife left mauis devastation for what was supposed to be a relaxing honeymoon. It became a mini disaster for a lot of people. It was impossible to function. Impossible to move around. Impossible to communicate. Entire camps became pretty much destroyed. Less than an inch of water fell over one 24hour period from friday to saturday. So much water. We are flooded. Organizers of the week long festival asked attendees to shelter in place and to conserve food, water and fuel. Its actually been fairly festive. Everybodys taken it in stride. But not everybody. Some socalled burners say the mood was festive until supplies started running out. Everybody took shoes off, started dancing in the mud, it was great. Then the reality sunk in that we c

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