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Transcripts For CNNW CNN 20240703

This afternoon . Reporter well, jim, President Biden said it is time for congress to get to work to avoid repeating this down to the wire talks that happened and ended yesterday as the house and senate both passed a bill to avert a Government Shutdown. But what the president has been pushing for them to do over the past few weeks and Going Forward is for House Republicans to adhere to the agreement that the white house had reached with House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy back in the spring during the debt ceiling fight. During that time, they had reached some agreements about what spending and budget levels should be in place and they had hoped that this was to avert a shutdown. But you had heard some House Republicans, the hardliners in the house really push for further spending cuts. And that is where the House Speaker ran into some issues between these two sides. But the president also lamented, the brinksmanship occurring between lawmakers up on capitol hill saying that American People are sick and tired of it. Take a listen. The truth is we shouldnt be here in the fis place. We shouldnt havent gotten here if the first place. It is time to end governing by crisis and keep your word when you give it in the congress. You know, where i come from, when you make a deal and you give your word, you keep it and ai expect the republican speaker and Republican Congress to honor their word and keep the deal that they made months ago when they tried to threaten to with almost International Bankruptcy by not paying our debts. Reporter now while the bill the president signed yesterday averts a Government Shutdown, at least for another 45 days. One thing not included in the bill was funding for ukrainech that is something that President Biden had been pushing for for months. But there has been some opposition against hardline republicans in the house and it was decided to drop that from the bill. The president said it is time for congress to stop playing games for republicans and House Republicans to agree to pass this kind of funding and both the president and Democratic Leadership has indicated that they expect House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy to put up a separate vote on ukraine aid at some time in the coming weeks. But this all comes at a challenging time as the president is also trying to assure allies of the u. S. And ukraine that enduring support for ukraine will continue to be there. But theyre running up against these this resistance that youve seen from some members up in congress as there is skepticism about whether more aid should be provided to ukraine. Arlette saenz over at the white house. Thank you very much. And reporter Melanie Zanona joins me now. Matt gaetz has said that hes going to force this vote on Kevin Mccarthy this week. Might this be the end of mccarthy as speaker . In order for that to succeed, they need a majority of the entire chamber. So that would be presumably 218 votes. And say gaetzs has 18 members with him and on the republican side which is a large number, were not sure what number is. But then he would still need 200 democrats to back him and that is where Hakeem Jeffries, the democratic leader come news plac place. Right now they dont have a unified position, there is a lot of democrats who said we should not bail out keb mccarthy, we cannot trust him and why would we do that but you still have a small sector of moderate democrats saying we dont want to throw the house in chaos and perhaps we could get some concessions out of Speaker Mccarthy. But democratic leader shuft just put out a letter to leaders, were aware of this issue and lets talk about it as a caucus before we move forward. So that is something were watching this week. But there are sp ideas batted around between republicans and democrats and what potential concessions could look like. Maybe power sharing agreements, more committee assignments. One thing that Democratic Leaders did say in a statement yesterday after the vote to und if the government was, we expect mccarthy to put a ukraine aid bill on the floor and President Biden spoke today and suggested there was a deal with mccarthy there. Now i reached out to mccarthy and they said when i asked what aurns shoos were made to the white house, they said mccarthy has said hes committed to ukraine aid if there is Border Security provisions. But you get the sense hes in a difficult spot and this is why democrats dont trust him and just today Marjorie Taylor greene put out a tweet saying Kevin Mccarthy could not put the bill on the floor because it does not have a majority and that is a violation of his term as speaker. So caught between the different competing factions but his fate may rest in the hand of democrats if you could imagine that. And when i talk to Debbie Wauserman Schultz she didnt want to say what she will do at this point but it sounds as though democrats are in a little bit of a bine. Theyll have to hash this out. Because they could end up with a speaker of house who is far more extreme than Kevin Mccarthy. But when i talk to bob good, a very hardline republican from virginia in the Freedom Caucus after talking to Debbie Wasserman schultz, he was noncommittal. I asked him five different ways is it time for mccarthy to go and he didnt want to answer that question. I would have put him down as one of those votes. So there was a house gop version of a Stopgap Funding Bill that they tried and failed to pass on friday. Good was supportive of that. So he might be in one of the camps or doesnt love Kevin Mccarthy but not ready to oust him. But there is a group of a dozen or so who we are looking at, those who did vote against that c. R. On friday. But youre right, at this point, two republicans who have come out and said they are for this effort. That is matt gaetz and eli crane, a fresh man, one of the antimccarthy people during the race. So it is a whip count on the democratic and republican side in the next few days. I feel bad for you. Out of the frying pan and into the fry. Thank you very much. Joining me now charlie dent from pennsylvania and joe walsh, former republican kog congressman from illinois and im guessing your happy that youre former Republican Congressman after what took place this week. Charlie, how does this end . Well, it appears that matt gaetz is going to offer a motion to vacate the chair with the speaker and The Big Question that comes home votes does matt gaetz have . So maybe he has five to 15 votes. We dont know. So that makes Hakeem Jeffries very powerful. And if im Hakeem Jeffries, i go to Speaker Mccarthy and say we want to share power. What are we going to get if we rescue you . That is a fair question to ask. The democrats, Hakeem Jeffries rescued mccarthy on the Debt Ceiling Budget Agreement back in the end of may, early june just as they did yesterday on the continuing resolution to fund the government. So i really think that is where this is. The democrats have to figure out, do they want to do they want to see the house go back into chaos, and they might see some political benefit from that. But do they want to just maintain the status quo and realize that maybe they get somebody worse than mccarthy from their standpoint. So right now it is all on the democrats hands because were going to of to play with this for another 45 days because we just set up another cliff, november 17th, we do have to finish funding the government and the ukraine Funding Issue so we have to deal this issue with removing mccarthy while also dealing with longterm Funding Issue of the government. Yeah, joe, what do you think . For all of The Sound And Fury that you hear coming out of the house Freedom Caucus, i went back and forth with bob good of Virginia Over and over again in the previous hour. He would not answer the question as to whether Kevin Mccarthy should lose his job . And jim, that interview with good, great job. That was really telling. Look, i could be dead wrong. But i still dont believe gaetz will move to remove Kevin Mccarthy. Gaetz and the other hardliners had enormous power over mccarthy by just threatening to remove him. I mean, theyve made life absolutely miserable for him the last year and a half. They want to continue to do that. And jim, the other thing about gaetz is, gaetz is all about gaetz. This is all about individual branding for matt gaetz. Matt gaetz is not very well liked inside of that caucus among damn near everybody within that caucus. Matt gaetz has probably one foot out of the door running for governor of florida. So i still believe gaetz is still just threatening mccarthy here. But i would still be surprised if anything happens. Fascinating. And lets just talk about what took place over the last 48 hours on saturday. The wall street Journal Editorial Board referred to this Bringsman Shirp as a Government Shutdown for dummies an the real goal of the mal contents seems to topple mr. Mccarthy for personal spite and it is stupid with failure for ordained and their constituents want conservative policies but the gaetzs are playing personal gains. When youve lost the wall street Journal Editorial Board, that is not good. Mccarthy is dealing with and frankly about 200 or so house gop members is that theyre dealing with a Nilistic Group of members. It is a small group. But these guys, as mccarthy said it himself. She want to burn it all down. They have no interest in governing. They think those that do fund the government and stop the government from defaulting that their committing acts of capitulation or surrender. And that is how they think. And i said that mccarthy needs to stop appeasing that bunch because he has empowered them and emboldened them and so whenever he runs them over like he did yesterday, with a bipartisan agreement, he margininalized them, he needed to keep doing that and just ignore their threats. Their not going to go away. Theyre going to continue to drive him crazy if he lets them. So again, it gets back to mccarthy, figuring out whether or not, how much hes going to need democrats Going Forward. Hes going to need them again on the next funding bill, on the november 17th. Hes going to need them to fund the government on a longterm basis when they pass all of the appropriates bill and hell need them on ukraine funding. So theyll have to continue to Work Together and that group, that Nilistic Group is never going to be there to help. So they might as well throw the gauntlet down and have the fight and let the chips fall where they may. We dont know how this will play out. There is still some time. But at least go down swinging. Joe, what do you think . S had mccarthy figured out the numbers here and made determination that hes going to do this without the Freedom Caucus and let them do some things right up until the last minute and when the middle of november rolls around and mush it to thanksgiving, theyll pass another turkey. Well, first off, jim, the context here is no tears for Kevin Mccarthy. He sold every inch of his body to become speaker. So no tears for mccarthy. He put himself in this position. I disagree with my friend and colleague charlie. This was a bad fight. Most of the Republican Caucus is maga. But even most of the maga wing or caucus here, they didnt want to fight over this Government Shutdown. They would rather talk about hunter biden and Impeachment Inquiries, bogus Impeachment Inquiries into joe biden. Most of the republicans in the house want to pursue an Impeachment Inquiry. Those are the bones that mccarthy has to throw at his caucus. But charlie is right. When it comes to policy and keeping government funded, mccarthy will have to lean on democrats and keep throwing his maga folks all of the Impeachment Inquiry b. S. All right. Well, a lot to get through there. But appreciate both of you for joining us to do it. It is going to be an interesting week, guys. Well be back in touch. It will, indeed. It will be many things. Probably more than interesting. Thank you. Appreciate it. Donald trump returns to iowa. Well take you live to the came trail in just a few moments. Plus a look at how smashandgrab robberies and looting are taking a toll on some communities. And it is Jimmy Carters 99th birthday. A look at his life and league and the birthday wishes hes getting from people All Around The World including willie nelson. Happy birthday, president carter. Im thinking about you. I love you. We miss you. And i hope you have a real good one. The Iowa Caucuses are less than four months away. Donald trump, the current republican frontrunner, is ramping up Campaign Efforts in the hawkeye state. Elena trina is there and joins us with more. I understand youre hearing that donald trump will be back in court tomorrow. This time in new york. What could you tell us . Reporter well, that is right, jim. So weve learned that the former president is expected to travel to new york city tonight. Hes wrapping up his iowa events. He so youust finished his rally here and then traveling to a form and is heading to new york city and is expected to appear at the courthouse tomorrow in a civil fraud case. Now this case was brought by the new York Attorney general Letitia James last september and it is relating to donald trump, his sons and some of their companies an their senior executives. Accusing them of fraud. Now, donald trump is not expected to speak in this case tomorrow. He also hasnt confirmed that hes actually going to appear in court. But multiple sources are telling me and my colleague Kristin Holmes that he is expected to be in new york and show up at the courthouse tomorrow. And elena, what was the former president been saying on the campaign trail this weekend and why is he focusing in on iowa . Reporter well i think the iowa speech is very important. I also think just noting how many stops that the former president is going to be making in this state, is also very interesting. So far donald trump has not spent a lot of time in iowa. Even though it is the first primary state, the iowa caucus is on january 15th and hes starting to ramp up his attention on this. And im spoken with donald trump advisers about the importance of both iowa but many of the other early states and they tell me, look, even though hes doing very well in the polls,ee trying to make this look like a trump versus biden rematch, and trying to look like hes by passing his primary challenges, at the end of the day they have to win in the primary state in order to win eventually in 2024 if we were to get the nomination. And they hope if they could win big in iowa and New Hampshire and srk south carolina, that could carry over to the general election. So hes not taking his foot off the gas when it comes to campaigning in these states even though hes polling well. The Campaign Calendar is getting filled up quickly. Thank you very much into here to discuss this and more is editor and chief aiden mclaughlin. Let me jump very quickly into this trump news that hes going to be at this Civil Fraud Trial In New York tomorrow. It sounds as though, this is a continuation of trump wanting to fight this out in the media. Right. Think it is the treat we saw from when he launched his Political Campaign first in 2015 when is that if you turn everything into the trump show, youre going to get a ton of free media coverage. Youre also going to look like your fighting against these institutions that are seeking to keep you down. His supporters really love that. And it also sucks up all of the oxygen for the other candidates that hes facing in the republican primary. It keeps cameras on him. So that is a really important part of his strategy and it has been. To be honest throughout

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