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Plus, pushed out as the Texas State Trooper over his Health Problems developed while serving his country in iraq, Health Problems that he developed because of burn pits, this is a case we have followed here on the lead for years, today were going to bring you some good news about a tragic case. And leading this hour, a brand new warning about Donald Trumps true character behind the scenes, this time from his longestserving white house Chief Of Staff, john kelly, on the record only here on the lead, confirming insults about veterans and wounded and killed Service Members that the former president made behind closed doors, when trump thought no one was watching, when trump thought no one cared. John kelly setting the record straight about trumps most stinging words about war heroes and military Service Members. The coverage starts with exclusive reporting, with sjohn kelly offering strongest rebukes yet, kelly called trump, quote, a person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peace time and war should lose his life for treason in expectation that someone will take action, unquote. Kelly also called his former boss, quote, a person who admired Auwe Autocrats and murderous dictators, unquote. And theres more no other president has had so many such harsh public assessments. Most recently cassidy hu hutchinson. I think donald trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime and potentially in american history. Reporter she joins a growing chorus. I think hes unfit for office. He will always put his own interests and gratifying his own ego ahead of everything else. Reporter and today trumps longestserving former Chief Of Staff john kelly is chiming in with his harshest criticism yet, in an exclusive statement to cnn kelly says about trump, what can i add that has not already been said . Calling president trump, quote, a person that has no idea what america stands for, and has no idea what america is all about. V for the First Time Ever kelly sets the record straight with on the record confirmation of a number of damning details from donald trump from background sources, including from a 2020 Atlantic Story reported with unnamed sources by Editor In Chief Jeffrey Goldberg, including the stunning detail that trump turned to Kelly On Memorial Day at Arlington National cemetery in 2017, and asked, i dont get it, what was in it for them . This is kelly, confirming on the record stories of trump insulting senator john mccain, and former president george h. W. Bush because in vietnam, and in world war ii, respectively, the former aviators were shot down. Kelly describes trump as, quote, a person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as p. O. W. S are all, quote, suckers because, quote, there is nothing in it for them. A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of Military Amputees because, quote, it doesnt look good for me. A person that demonstrated open contempt for a gold star family for all gold star families on tv during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in americas defense are, quote, losers, and wouldnt visit their graves in france. Kelly confirming on the record a story reported in the book the divider where trump tells kelly he wants a Military Parade. Like when you know he saw for bastille day in france except he does not want any wounded veterans. Kelly confirming that trump in 2018 in france refused to visit graves of americans killed in world war i. To cnn kelly calls trump a hypocrite saying he is, quote, not truthful, regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical christians, on jews, on working men and women, and he concludes trump is, quote, a person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our constitution, and the rule of law. He concludes, there is nothing more than can be said, god help us. Hes doing a great job as Chief Of Staff. Reporter a stunning repudiation by a man who worked side by side with trump longer than any other of trumps many chiefs of staff. Kelly also criticized trump for saying that former Joint Chiefs Of Staff chairman general mark milley should be executed in a Departure Speech on Friday Milley responded. We dont take an oath to a king or queen or tyrant or dictator, and we dont take an oath to a wannabe dictator. Reporter some of the people who know donald trump the best now warning of the threat they think he poses if elected in november 2024. Now cnn reached out to the Trump Campaign monday afternoon, telling officials at the campaign that a former Administration Official had confirmed on the record a number of of the details about the 2020 Atlantic Magazine story. We did not name john kelly, but we wanted to seek comment about the substance of that story, the Trump Campaign responded with a statement insulting the character and credibility of retired Joint Chiefs Of Staff chairman general mark milley who had nothing to do with the story, the Trump Campaign also issued a statement insulting me, saying i should, quote, Stop Peddling Fake News from shady sources, which would be relevant although the news is quite real and the source is impeccable. Id like to speak with john bolton, thanks for joining us, for the first time john kelly whos been very reluctant to do this on the record but here he is confirming several stories that really offended him greatly, especially ones that had to do with his attitude towards veterans, Wounded Soldiers, killed soldiers, trump at Arlington Cemetery in 2017 standing among the graves of american soldiers who died in afghanistan and iraq and saying, i dont get it, what was in it for them . Trump calling americans who died in world war i losers, refusing the visit the cemeteries of world war i soldiers, trump not wanting wounded veterans in a Military Parade because it would, quote, not be a good look for him. Did you hear any of these comments, or anything like it . And do you have any reason to doubt john kelly knowing him as you do . Well, first, i have no reason whatever to doubt what john said. I think he was saying exactly what he heard from trump. Some of those things he had told me, some occurred before i arrived at the white house. The question of the veterans day the Armistice Day celebration in france, i did not hear those comments there. I think im sure john heard them when i was out of the room doing Something Else. I dont have any doubt that what john kelly said was true, none whatever. Kellys comments also square with the reporting of the flick, a more recent story by jeff goldberg, a profile of general milley that trump didnt react well to seeing a severely Wounded Army Captain who was singing God Bless America at an event, if the more recent profile of milley, trump said to milley why do you bring people like that here, no one wants to see that, the wounded, unquote. I have to say on a personal level as somebody who tries to do a lot of work to help our Wounded Soldiers, i dont even understand this point of view. These are our bravest of the brave, and this man was Commander In Chief and wants to be Commander In Chief again and he doesnt want to see Wounded Soldiers . Explain that to me, if you can. Well, i can tell you what john kelly once told me about the visit to walter reed that occurred before i arrived when most people when they see Service Members who have been grievously wounded or affected by it, or stunned by the devotion to duty, the patriotism, the dedication of those who have sacrificed so much, and endured such brutal wounds, trump, he said, tried to stay away from it, and john kelly interpreted it, i think, correctly, as cowardice on trumps part, a fear that Something Like that could have happened to him, could happen to him, and he just didnt want to face it. Im not a shrink. I dont make shrink diagnoses, but i think the cowardism analysis is correct. Trumps obviously the leading candidate for the republican president ial nomination, hes neck and neck with President Biden of the general election, if not slightly ahead, does it concern you that he could once again serve as Commander In Chief and the head of the armed forces . Well, it appalls me he could be elected president again. I dont have any sympathy for his potential opponents on the democratic side. I didnt vote for biden or trump in 2020. Id like to see a conservative republican on the ticket, donald trump is not a conservative republican, and i think that as ive said repeatedly on any number of occasions he did damage in his first term, has largely been repaired but that if he were elected to a second term this time he might damage that would be irreparable. This is a very dangerous period were about to enter into here. And john kelly also says that trump is, quote, a person that has no idea what america stands for and has no idea what america is all about, a person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served this country for 40 years in peacetime and war, this is a reference to general milley should lose his life for treason in expectation that someone will take action, a person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators, has nothing but contempt for democratic institutions, our constitution and rule of law. I know you agree with some of that, in your book the room where it happened. Its interesting that kelly put in there that he thinks trump Accusing Milley of treason was done in order to encourage someone to act on that. Well, look, its entirely possible. Trump uses the word treason quite a bit, he called me a traitor, others in his administration, mike pompeo called me a traitor for writing a book. Thats the way they do things. And its entirely possible, thats what trump wants to see. I think the Central Point of what john kelly said in that particular quotation goes to really the essence of donald trump. The only thing he cares about is donald trump. Everything else is instrumental. The idea that he has a philosophy that we have really much of an idea at all what he will do in a second term freed from my electoral guardrails, remember he cant run for a third term. So the political constraints that he faced in his first term will be largely nonexistent. Simply enhance the danger of what may happen in a second term. And there are a lot of other republicans who can actually be reasonable president s of the United States, the party has to find a way to find that person, and nominate him or her. Former u. S. National security adviser and u. N. Ambassador john bolton, thanks so much for your time, really appreciate it, sir. Thank you. Again, these are confirmed comments, made to set the record straight by john kelly, talking about the former Commander In Chief. I want to get reaction by someone who served in uniform, thats next. Were back with more exclusive reporting, former white house Chief Of Staff to donald trump john kelly confirming and adding new context to several stories regarding trumps thoughts and attitude toward one wounded veterans and killed veterans, Kelly Calling Trump a person, quote, who thinks those who defend the country in uniform or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat or spend years being tortured as p. O. W. S are sule suckers because, quote, theres nothing in it for them. Who did not want to be seen in the presence of Military Amputees because, quote, it doesnt look good for me, who demonstrated open contempt for all gold star families and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in americas defense are losers and wouldnt visit their graves in france. Joining me now is retired air force colonel cedric leighton, so, colonel, a lot of these stories were reported in the Atlantic Magazine by Jeffrey Goldberg and in the book the divider by Susan Glasser and peter baker but they were on background. Now we have trumps longest serving Chief Of Staff confirming on the record, his name attached to them, and expressing abject disgust with donald trump for those attitudes. Youre a veteran. Whats your response . Well, you know, every time you hear Something Like this, jake, youre amazed that somebody like that could have actually been the Commander In Chief, and it doesnt matter about Party Affiliation or anything like that, or ideology even, but what does matter is taking care of the troops. One of the key things thats instilled in commanders is that they must take care of their troops, and that should extend from the lowest level commander like a Platoon Level command all the way up to the Commander In Chief. And when that isnt done, that really affects morale. It affects the ability of the force to move forward. It affects everything that you can imagine for the military, including readiness. I dont even understand it because, i mean, we were just talking about this with john bolton, when i see a wounded veteran i think, what a hero you know, when you sign up, or when youre drafted for older generations, you know, youre going that is an act of heroism unto itself when you sign up or when you, you know, go into vietnam or go to iraq or afghanistan. You are putting yourself in harms way. Yeah. Knowing you could lose your life or a limb or your eyesight, and when you see somebody i mean, we have wounded veterans on the show all the time, we just had one a week ago today, and when you see somebody like that you think, god, his life is forever changed, or her life is forever changed, and how heroic, and, you know, i dont know if i would have the courage or strength to do that. Well, yeah, absolutely. And i think the key thing is that these people, all of us who have served, you know, we look inside ourselves and we look to something greater. We look for something that we can do to protect the nation. And other people around the world, so its not just for america, its really for other people as well. But when somebody is wounded, you take care of them. You know, just like the motto that you have in front of the Veterans Administration which basically is, to take care of the widow, the orphan and the wounded veteran, because they are the ones who have served, who have born the brunt of not only their injuries, but also of the sacrifice that they had to make in order to serve in this way, and they happen to, in that sense, get unlucky by being wounded. There could have been other things that have happened but those who have been wounded, those who have died, those who have even those hidden injuries, like posttraumatic stress and other injuries like tbi, those are the kinds of things that everybody should be looking to help protect, you and i both have done things for veterans, we try very hard to look at them. I think one of the proudest things ive ever been able to do is help a wounded veteran, get promoted, stay in the air force and get promoted n in spite of his wounds. Thats something i will think about proudly because i was able to help that one person in that particular case and even Little Things with other wounded veterans, becomes really important to do that and it becomes important that anybody who aspires to be the Commander In Chief, that that person really take into account what it means to send people into battle, to send people into harms way. You think about what Power Outages<\/a> with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery backup to keep you online. Only from xfinity. Home of the xfinity 10g network. Welcome to the lead, this hour we heard from donald trump as day oneof his civil fraud case wrapped up, the former president just arrived back at trump tower although its not clear whether he plans to attend when court resumes tomorrow morning. This is a case that could have been in the hands of a jury, instead a single judge, who already found trump liable for fraud will now decide how much he must pay up and it could be a quarter of a billion dollars. Plus, pushed out as the Texas State Trooper<\/a> over his Health Problems<\/a> developed while serving his country in iraq, Health Problems<\/a> that he developed because of burn pits, this is a case we have followed here on the lead for years, today were going to bring you some good news about a tragic case. And leading this hour, a brand new warning about Donald Trumps<\/a> true character behind the scenes, this time from his longestserving white house Chief Of Staff<\/a>, john kelly, on the record only here on the lead, confirming insults about veterans and wounded and killed Service Members<\/a> that the former president made behind closed doors, when trump thought no one was watching, when trump thought no one cared. John kelly setting the record straight about trumps most stinging words about war heroes and military Service Members<\/a>. The coverage starts with exclusive reporting, with sjohn kelly offering strongest rebukes yet, kelly called trump, quote, a person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peace time and war should lose his life for treason in expectation that someone will take action, unquote. Kelly also called his former boss, quote, a person who admired Auwe Autocrats<\/a> and murderous dictators, unquote. And theres more no other president has had so many such harsh public assessments. Most recently cassidy hu hutchinson. I think donald trump is the most grave threat we will face to our democracy in our lifetime and potentially in american history. Reporter she joins a growing chorus. I think hes unfit for office. He will always put his own interests and gratifying his own ego ahead of everything else. Reporter and today trumps longestserving former Chief Of Staff<\/a> john kelly is chiming in with his harshest criticism yet, in an exclusive statement to cnn kelly says about trump, what can i add that has not already been said . Calling president trump, quote, a person that has no idea what america stands for, and has no idea what america is all about. V for the First Time Ever<\/a> kelly sets the record straight with on the record confirmation of a number of damning details from donald trump from background sources, including from a 2020 Atlantic Story<\/a> reported with unnamed sources by Editor In Chief<\/a> Jeffrey Goldberg<\/a>, including the stunning detail that trump turned to Kelly On Memorial Day<\/a> at Arlington National<\/a> cemetery in 2017, and asked, i dont get it, what was in it for them . This is kelly, confirming on the record stories of trump insulting senator john mccain, and former president george h. W. Bush because in vietnam, and in world war ii, respectively, the former aviators were shot down. Kelly describes trump as, quote, a person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as p. O. W. S are all, quote, suckers because, quote, there is nothing in it for them. A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of Military Amputees<\/a> because, quote, it doesnt look good for me. A person that demonstrated open contempt for a gold star family for all gold star families on tv during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in americas defense are, quote, losers, and wouldnt visit their graves in france. Kelly confirming on the record a story reported in the book the divider where trump tells kelly he wants a Military Parade<\/a>. Like when you know he saw for bastille day in france except he does not want any wounded veterans. Kelly confirming that trump in 2018 in france refused to visit graves of americans killed in world war i. To cnn kelly calls trump a hypocrite saying he is, quote, not truthful, regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical christians, on jews, on working men and women, and he concludes trump is, quote, a person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our constitution, and the rule of law. He concludes, there is nothing more than can be said, god help us. Hes doing a great job as Chief Of Staff<\/a>. Reporter a stunning repudiation by a man who worked side by side with trump longer than any other of trumps many chiefs of staff. Kelly also criticized trump for saying that former Joint Chiefs Of Staff<\/a> chairman general mark milley should be executed in a Departure Speech<\/a> on Friday Milley<\/a> responded. We dont take an oath to a king or queen or tyrant or dictator, and we dont take an oath to a wannabe dictator. Reporter some of the people who know donald trump the best now warning of the threat they think he poses if elected in november 2024. Now cnn reached out to the Trump Campaign<\/a> monday afternoon, telling officials at the campaign that a former Administration Official<\/a> had confirmed on the record a number of of the details about the 2020 Atlantic Magazine<\/a> story. We did not name john kelly, but we wanted to seek comment about the substance of that story, the Trump Campaign<\/a> responded with a statement insulting the character and credibility of retired Joint Chiefs Of Staff<\/a> chairman general mark milley who had nothing to do with the story, the Trump Campaign<\/a> also issued a statement insulting me, saying i should, quote, Stop Peddling Fake News<\/a> from shady sources, which would be relevant although the news is quite real and the source is impeccable. Id like to speak with john bolton, thanks for joining us, for the first time john kelly whos been very reluctant to do this on the record but here he is confirming several stories that really offended him greatly, especially ones that had to do with his attitude towards veterans, Wounded Soldiers<\/a>, killed soldiers, trump at Arlington Cemetery<\/a> in 2017 standing among the graves of american soldiers who died in afghanistan and iraq and saying, i dont get it, what was in it for them . Trump calling americans who died in world war i losers, refusing the visit the cemeteries of world war i soldiers, trump not wanting wounded veterans in a Military Parade<\/a> because it would, quote, not be a good look for him. Did you hear any of these comments, or anything like it . And do you have any reason to doubt john kelly knowing him as you do . Well, first, i have no reason whatever to doubt what john said. I think he was saying exactly what he heard from trump. Some of those things he had told me, some occurred before i arrived at the white house. The question of the veterans day the Armistice Day<\/a> celebration in france, i did not hear those comments there. I think im sure john heard them when i was out of the room doing Something Else<\/a>. I dont have any doubt that what john kelly said was true, none whatever. Kellys comments also square with the reporting of the flick, a more recent story by jeff goldberg, a profile of general milley that trump didnt react well to seeing a severely Wounded Army Captain<\/a> who was singing God Bless America<\/a> at an event, if the more recent profile of milley, trump said to milley why do you bring people like that here, no one wants to see that, the wounded, unquote. I have to say on a personal level as somebody who tries to do a lot of work to help our Wounded Soldiers<\/a>, i dont even understand this point of view. These are our bravest of the brave, and this man was Commander In Chief<\/a> and wants to be Commander In Chief<\/a> again and he doesnt want to see Wounded Soldiers<\/a> . Explain that to me, if you can. Well, i can tell you what john kelly once told me about the visit to walter reed that occurred before i arrived when most people when they see Service Members<\/a> who have been grievously wounded or affected by it, or stunned by the devotion to duty, the patriotism, the dedication of those who have sacrificed so much, and endured such brutal wounds, trump, he said, tried to stay away from it, and john kelly interpreted it, i think, correctly, as cowardice on trumps part, a fear that Something Like<\/a> that could have happened to him, could happen to him, and he just didnt want to face it. Im not a shrink. I dont make shrink diagnoses, but i think the cowardism analysis is correct. Trumps obviously the leading candidate for the republican president ial nomination, hes neck and neck with President Biden<\/a> of the general election, if not slightly ahead, does it concern you that he could once again serve as Commander In Chief<\/a> and the head of the armed forces . Well, it appalls me he could be elected president again. I dont have any sympathy for his potential opponents on the democratic side. I didnt vote for biden or trump in 2020. Id like to see a conservative republican on the ticket, donald trump is not a conservative republican, and i think that as ive said repeatedly on any number of occasions he did damage in his first term, has largely been repaired but that if he were elected to a second term this time he might damage that would be irreparable. This is a very dangerous period were about to enter into here. And john kelly also says that trump is, quote, a person that has no idea what america stands for and has no idea what america is all about, a person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served this country for 40 years in peacetime and war, this is a reference to general milley should lose his life for treason in expectation that someone will take action, a person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators, has nothing but contempt for democratic institutions, our constitution and rule of law. I know you agree with some of that, in your book the room where it happened. Its interesting that kelly put in there that he thinks trump Accusing Milley<\/a> of treason was done in order to encourage someone to act on that. Well, look, its entirely possible. Trump uses the word treason quite a bit, he called me a traitor, others in his administration, mike pompeo called me a traitor for writing a book. Thats the way they do things. And its entirely possible, thats what trump wants to see. I think the Central Point<\/a> of what john kelly said in that particular quotation goes to really the essence of donald trump. The only thing he cares about is donald trump. Everything else is instrumental. The idea that he has a philosophy that we have really much of an idea at all what he will do in a second term freed from my electoral guardrails, remember he cant run for a third term. So the political constraints that he faced in his first term will be largely nonexistent. Simply enhance the danger of what may happen in a second term. And there are a lot of other republicans who can actually be reasonable president s of the United States<\/a>, the party has to find a way to find that person, and nominate him or her. Former u. S. National security adviser and u. N. Ambassador john bolton, thanks so much for your time, really appreciate it, sir. Thank you. Again, these are confirmed comments, made to set the record straight by john kelly, talking about the former Commander In Chief<\/a>. I want to get reaction by someone who served in uniform, thats next. Were back with more exclusive reporting, former white house Chief Of Staff<\/a> to donald trump john kelly confirming and adding new context to several stories regarding trumps thoughts and attitude toward one wounded veterans and killed veterans, Kelly Calling Trump<\/a> a person, quote, who thinks those who defend the country in uniform or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat or spend years being tortured as p. O. W. S are sule suckers because, quote, theres nothing in it for them. Who did not want to be seen in the presence of Military Amputees<\/a> because, quote, it doesnt look good for me, who demonstrated open contempt for all gold star families and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in americas defense are losers and wouldnt visit their graves in france. Joining me now is retired air force colonel cedric leighton, so, colonel, a lot of these stories were reported in the Atlantic Magazine<\/a> by Jeffrey Goldberg<\/a> and in the book the divider by Susan Glasser<\/a> and peter baker but they were on background. Now we have trumps longest serving Chief Of Staff<\/a> confirming on the record, his name attached to them, and expressing abject disgust with donald trump for those attitudes. Youre a veteran. Whats your response . Well, you know, every time you hear Something Like<\/a> this, jake, youre amazed that somebody like that could have actually been the Commander In Chief<\/a>, and it doesnt matter about Party Affiliation<\/a> or anything like that, or ideology even, but what does matter is taking care of the troops. One of the key things thats instilled in commanders is that they must take care of their troops, and that should extend from the lowest level commander like a Platoon Level<\/a> command all the way up to the Commander In Chief<\/a>. And when that isnt done, that really affects morale. It affects the ability of the force to move forward. It affects everything that you can imagine for the military, including readiness. I dont even understand it because, i mean, we were just talking about this with john bolton, when i see a wounded veteran i think, what a hero you know, when you sign up, or when youre drafted for older generations, you know, youre going that is an act of heroism unto itself when you sign up or when you, you know, go into vietnam or go to iraq or afghanistan. You are putting yourself in harms way. Yeah. Knowing you could lose your life or a limb or your eyesight, and when you see somebody i mean, we have wounded veterans on the show all the time, we just had one a week ago today, and when you see somebody like that you think, god, his life is forever changed, or her life is forever changed, and how heroic, and, you know, i dont know if i would have the courage or strength to do that. Well, yeah, absolutely. And i think the key thing is that these people, all of us who have served, you know, we look inside ourselves and we look to something greater. We look for something that we can do to protect the nation. And other people around the world, so its not just for america, its really for other people as well. But when somebody is wounded, you take care of them. You know, just like the motto that you have in front of the Veterans Administration<\/a> which basically is, to take care of the widow, the orphan and the wounded veteran, because they are the ones who have served, who have born the brunt of not only their injuries, but also of the sacrifice that they had to make in order to serve in this way, and they happen to, in that sense, get unlucky by being wounded. There could have been other things that have happened but those who have been wounded, those who have died, those who have even those hidden injuries, like posttraumatic stress and other injuries like tbi, those are the kinds of things that everybody should be looking to help protect, you and i both have done things for veterans, we try very hard to look at them. I think one of the proudest things ive ever been able to do is help a wounded veteran, get promoted, stay in the air force and get promoted n in spite of his wounds. Thats something i will think about proudly because i was able to help that one person in that particular case and even Little Things<\/a> with other wounded veterans, becomes really important to do that and it becomes important that anybody who aspires to be the Commander In Chief<\/a>, that that person really take into account what it means to send people into battle, to send people into harms way. You think about what Franklin Roosevelt<\/a> thought object or what Abraham Lincoln<\/a> thought about. John kelly says donald trump when he was in frns for the Centennial Anniversary<\/a> of the end of world war i, and in 2018, wouldnt even go to two different graves of american soldiers who helped end the war in world war i, who helped end that war under the great general Blackjack Pershing<\/a> because he thought they were suckers and losers. I dont even understand that. They were heroes. They were absolute heroes and theres no question about it, and i think everybody who, you know, thinks that it was acceptable to behave in that way should spend a time at a place like the Marine Corps Museum<\/a> because that place actually shows what it was like during world war i, and places like a lot of them died of illness. Absolutely, illness, wounds, other factors, and they saved europe at that time. They save the veterans in world war i did the same thing as well. They absolutely saved europe, 100 . President trump likes to quote Blackjack Pershing<\/a> that has to do with muslims, and thats not true. Cedric, i digress, thank you so much, cedric leighton. Turning to chief correspondent, anchor of the source, kaitlan collins, are you surprised at all to see john kelly setting the record straight, going on the record, saying he heard these he heard this, this happened, and going on to offer this sharp rebuke, the sharpest one yet, of donald trump . No, im not surprised. I think john kelly has been very clear in his statements reflecting on his time working for trump, serving as his Chief Of Staff<\/a>, a role that i should note he took in a very different way than other chiefs of staff that trump had, whether it was reince priebus, nick mulvaney. Donald trump monitored the call logs, tried to restrict access to the oval office. Strain trump in a way that we did not see other senior aides to a degree and host been blunt about his assessment of trump saying that he doesnt that he lacks moral character, that he lacks judgment, really blunt comments, i know in trump world everything is kind of turned upside down but to hear a former Chief Of Staff<\/a> say that about the president they served under it is quite remarkable. I was looking at what he told you, jake, about, you know, trumps past comments about gold star families, all of this, a lot of that was before john kelly went to serve as the Chief Of Staff<\/a> in the trump west wing, and i think it reflects how at that time period there were still officials who thought they could come in and they could change trump, that they could somehow work to make him a better president or that he would feel differently once he was in the oval office and very clearly from john kellys assessment that was not the case. Trump is by far the leading republican for the nomination by more than 30 points. So far legal indictments, criticism from other republicans, former members of his own administration, criticism from cassidy hutchinson. Criticism from john bolton, criticism from general after general, Administration Official<\/a> after Administration Official<\/a> have yet to damage him, even bring him down in the polls. Might john kelly going on the record confirming that he had these insults for wounded veterans for soldiers, marines killed in the line of duty, might that have an effect . Or is there just nothing that will have an impact whatsoever . I think typically it would have an impact, and typically a judge in a Pretrial Motion<\/a> saying that you have committed fraud and you inflated your riches would also hurt a leading republican candidate, and we just dont see that happen with trump and i think its something that mystifies republicans, and clearly none of that has stopped him or halted him. He has only continued to be boosted as he has run and faced all these issues and been in courtrooms or had comments like the ones this kelly revealed to you, jake, one thing i would note is about the wounded veteran who sang God Bless America<\/a> at his Farewell Ceremony<\/a> on friday at the base in washington, that same wounded veteran came out and sang God Bless America<\/a> again, of course, before milley referred to trump as a wanna be dictator. Kaitlan collins, thank you so much. And as john kelly gives this warning donald trump himself today seemed to use his civil fraud case as a campaign stop, his comments moments ago on the trial that puts his entire Business Operation<\/a> in new york at risk. In our law and Justice League<\/a> moments ago donald trump arrived back at trump tower after attending day one, day one of his civil fraud trial, a trial that could mean the end of his Business Operation<\/a>s in new york, it could cost him a quarter of a billion dollars, you heard that right, a quarter of a billion dollars. Donald trump spoke as he left the courthouse, what did he have to say . Reporter he said in his comments, many of which he made today but in these last comments he said that the last five minutes of court today were outstanding, well let me explain to you why. Essentially, the person who was on the stand and who will continue on the stand tomorrow is donald bender, the former accountant for trump and trump org. The states attorneys spent several hours questioning bender on financial documents that relate to alleged crimes from 2011. Now, that is outside the Statute Of Limitations<\/a>, the court has already decided the crimes alleged have to be from 2014 and on. And so the fact that this was continued on for three hours, the judge said, was hes hoping the states attorneys are going to connect the dots between what theyre alleging prior to 2014 to what happened, and is relevant to this particular trial, and he said in that, i trust, that you can relate the 2011 documents to something that happened later, or else this has been a waste of time. So, trump very happy to hear that from the judge, of course marly because he fought in Appeals Court<\/a> and won when the institute Statute Of Limitations<\/a> would be established. Thats why he was more jovial. He did take many times before to disparage the judge in those comments in the hallway and of course Letitia James<\/a> the new York Attorney<\/a> general who has brought this civil trial against him. And being in court today seemed to fit into Trumps Campaign<\/a> strategy which is as always portray himself as a victim. Reporter yeah, absolutely, listen, he, like i said, came out several times, anytime there really was a break in court to make comments, to use the typical tag lines weve heard from him that this is a witch hunt. His attorneys even making that case in the courtroom during Opening Statements<\/a> as well, which the judge shot down. Its unclear, jake, at this point, if he is going to return to court tomorrow, and continue this, hes saying that, you know what, this is taking him away from his campaign, but we all know very well that he is getting his time in front of the camera, which is important to his campaign. Well be on the lookout to see what he decides for day two of this trial. Brynn gbegin grass, thanks s much. All bluster but no bite. Thats threats to Kevin Mccarthy<\/a>. Im going to talk with a republican member of congress next, stay with us. Cmon, were right there. Cmon baby. Its the only we need. Go, go, go, go ah Touchdown Baby<\/a> touchdown are your neighbors watching the same game . Yeah, my 5g Home Internet<\/a> delays the game a bit. But you get used to it. Try these. Theyre noise cancelling earmuffs. I stole them from an airport. Its always something with you, man. Great solid greek salad . Exactly dont delay the game with verizon or tmobile 5g Home Internet<\/a>. Catch it on the xfinity 10g network. In our politics lead the infighting between House Republicans<\/a> is getting even uglier, today Florida Republican<\/a> congressman matt gaetz took to the house floor, repeated his threat to oust Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> from the speakership after Kevin Mccarthy<\/a> made that deal with democrats last saturday to avoid the government shutdown. It is going to be difficult for my republican friends to keep calling President Biden<\/a> feeble while he continues to take Speaker Mccarthy<\/a>s lunch money in every negotiation. So, for all the Crocodile Tears<\/a> about what may happen later this week, about a motion to vacate, working with the democrats is a Yellow Brick Road<\/a> that has been paved by Speaker Mccarthy<\/a>. Matt gaetz never met a four he didnt like. Joining us is mike law ler of new york. Congressman, good to see you, what are you hearing from your republican colleagues today . Youve called gaetzs reasoning a diatribe of delusional thinking, youve called him a obviously your respect for matt gaetz knows bounds, what you r hearing from your colleagues . Theres a broad consensus that what he is doing is destructive, that it undermines the work that we were elected to do. The American People<\/a> elected a House Republican<\/a> majority to govern, and to serve as a check and balance on the biden agenda. There is no disagreement within the conference about the need to cut spending, about the need to change course when it comes to policy, and theres no disagreement about the need to do singlesubject appropriations bills. And, in fact, we have been doing that work. House republicans have passed four of the 12 bills which account for roughly 70 of discretionary spending. Senate democrats have passed exactly zero. So, we are doing the work. This will be a major distraction from that work. Obviously, we extended Government Funding<\/a> by 45 days, so that we could complete this important work on behalf of the American People<\/a>, and fight for Border Security<\/a>. I would remind everybody that the reason that we couldnt do that in this c. R. Was because of matt gaetz and some of my colleagues that voted against the conservative c. R. That the speaker put forth that would have cut spending by 8 and would have enacted h. R. 2 to help secure our border. You cant negotiate with the senate and the white house if you dont have a bill passed which we saw during the debt ceiling negotiations. Because we were able to pass limit, save, grow and get that through the house Chuck Schumer<\/a> was sidelined because he couldnt pass anything through the senate and we were able to negotiate with the president. So what congressman gaetz said to me, i said if you voted for the bill that Speaker Mccarthy<\/a> put forth on friday, the lower Spending Bill<\/a>, that would have gone to the senate, the senate would have rejected i but passed their own bill and there would have been a Conference Committee<\/a> and republicans would have been in a stronger position, there would have been less spending and whatever came out of that committee, and then that would have gone to biden, et cetera. He said thats not what would have happened, there hasnt been a Conference Committee<\/a> on a continuing resolution since the 90s, the senate would have just jammed the house with a bill, and then that would have gone to biden, blah blah blah. Was he right . Thats almost what happened because of his irrational behavior. We were able to pass a clean c. R. With disaster relief, and we will work on the issue of ukraine, and Border Security<\/a> down the road, precisely because he would not support a c. R. That had spending cuts and Border Security<\/a>. Whether there was a Conference Committee<\/a> or not the reality is the speaker would have been in a position to negotiate with senator schumer, with the white house, over a shortterm spending gap measure, because matt undermined that process, there was only one choice, which was to keep the American Government<\/a> open and funded, so as not to harm the American People<\/a>, or worsen an already fragile economy because biden omics has failed so miserably. Thats his fault. On the house floor did gaetz accuse Speaker Mccarthy<\/a> of making a secret deal with proind President Biden<\/a> on this aid for ukraine, mccarthy denies that, although President Biden<\/a> did say there was some sort of deal when it comes to ukraine, im not really sure what the president s talking about. But there is the bigger issue here is that there is no money for ukraine in this Spending Bill<\/a> that passed saturday. I believe that you support further aid for ukraine, whats going to happen, what should congress do . Well, listen, i was not willing to shut down the American Government<\/a> over foreign aid. To me that would be unacceptable. I do support the spending in ukraine, to support their efforts and to beat back russian aggression. Russia is in an unholy alliance with china, north korea, and iran. Its a threat to the United States<\/a> economy, and our national security. So, we need to combat that malign influence of russia. But that is going to have to be negotiated. Theres no secret deal, theres no side deal, its a reality. The president and the senate are pushing for more funding in ukraine. A majority of members in the house Support Funding<\/a> in ukraine. So, its a reality that we have to deal with. The question is, will we get Border Security<\/a> for the American People<\/a> . Will we get spending cuts on behalf of the American People<\/a> . To right size a bloated and Out Of Control<\/a> federal government . That is what is going on here. So for matt to say, oh, this is some secret deal, wake up, dude. I mean, this is absolutely ridiculous, and its just him trying to latch onto Something Else<\/a> to create chaos, and try to use as a vehicle to remove the speaker. I would note, matt gaetz refers to the speaker breaking promises, the speaker breaking the rules, the only person who has broken the republican Conference Rules<\/a> is matt gaetz. He voted against the majority of the majority when it came to our choice for speaker, he voted to take down rules on the house floor, and now despite the fact that our Conference Rules<\/a> require a majority of the majority to bring a motion to vacate hes threatening to do it himself. So, matt has been a singular Destructive Force<\/a> within the conference, and the American People<\/a> should understand that what he is doing is not conservative. It is not conservative republicanism. He is a charleton. Legal victory you know if you watch the lead. Hes going to join us live, thats next. Now for our buried lead, stories we think are note getting enough attention, last friday this is good news, i promise. Last friday, a texas jury awarded nearly 2. 5 million, 2. 5 million to a former Texas State Trooper<\/a> who had essentially been forced out of his job because of Health Problems<\/a> he developed after being exposed to burn pits in iraq, where he was serving his country. A little background. Burn pits were used by the u. S. Military in iraq and afghanistan to destroy trash, ammunitions and hazardous chemicals. And even human and medical waste. More than Three Million<\/a> veterans may have been exposed to the toxic fumes from the fires according to the va. My next guests are leroy torres, a former Texas State Trooper<\/a> and army reservist. He returned from his yearlong deployment to iraq with these health issues. And that interfered with his daily work as a Texas State Trooper<\/a>. Rather than accommodating him because of his service, the Texas Department<\/a> of Public Safety<\/a> abruptly fired him, and he sued. And his case went all the way to the u. S. Supreme court before he was even able to sue. And take them to trial. Torres and his wife rosy also cofounded burn pits 360, an organization we covered a lot, dedicated to helping Burn Pit Victims<\/a>. They join us now. You know them. Youve seen them on the show before. Congratulation, rosie and leroy. I cant believe the system worked. Weve been following this all for years. Burn pits 360. You got all that worked out. And still more to do, but people are getting money and help. And the Supreme Court<\/a> ruled the right way, and you got your 2. 5 million. Whats your reaction . Leroy, you start. Jake, thanks for having us this afternoon. And you know what . After almost seven years that, you know, justice finally prevailed from, you know, just starting our battle, county court and going up to the legal system and to the u. S. Supreme court. And then finally getting that opportunity to bring our battle back to texas, finally september 29th, after over this decade of this injustice that was served that finally i have that peace. Its amazing. Its amazing. Rosie . Congratulations. Jake, thank you. I mean, as you know, weve said it before. We couldnt have done it without le roys amazing legal team. This is primarily as a result of an injustice that happened to le roy. You know, i stood by him to advocate for him and many veterans just like le roy. This has never been just about le roy, but the injustice of life after war and making sure that, you know, states dont just get to say that theyre sovereign because theyre the state. So its overwhelming. Were so grateful. Again, we couldnt do it without this amazing team that i know le roy is going to talk about here in a minute. But were just grateful to god that were here today at this moment with this decision. Yeah. Let me make it clear. This is a wonderful day and a wonderful decision. But those Heartless Bastards<\/a> that made this long, long struggle necessary should never sleep soundly again for the rest of their lives. 100 . Youre not saying that, but im saying that le roy stars and stripes quote, as citizens soldiers we deserve to keep our professions when we return from serving our nation. We should not have to bear the burden alone due to illnesses or injuries caused by an instrumentality of war, unquote. Elaborate on that for us, if you would. You know, jake, its like we fulfill that oath when we go overseas. And the serving our country, but when we get back that we expect that same loyalty for us if we come back injured or with an illness. And we have that expectation that we come back as citizen soldiers, as reservists, and to come back it was questionable because of my permanent lung injury, that that cannot be accommodated. That was devastating because this was my childhood dream. And to know that we had to take our Battle All The Way<\/a> to the highest court in the land . This should not have happened. I was sitting there last week reflecting in the courtroom. I shouldnt even have to be here. All i did was i served my nation and the argument was that it wasnt that the argument it wasnt military discrimination, but it was the combination that was violated. And rosie, do you think this victory is going to help other Burn Pit Victims<\/a> . Absolutely. I mean, jake, we hear time and time again since we established the organization 13 years ago, that men and women are coming back with these invisible wounds of war, and theyre facing, you know, again, not only the injustice of not being theyre being served by denial. So we took that all the way to congress for the pact act. But again, theyre facing the injustice of job loss and them not accommodating and fulfilling the intent of the law. So, yes, its going to set Legal Precedents<\/a> at a National Level<\/a> and here in the state of texas. All right. You guys are the best. God bless. Thank you so much for coming on. We really appreciate it. Le roy and rosie torres. We can say thank you to andrew tutt brian lawler, steve chapman, thank you. Thank you to those guys and you two. Coming up, why you want to make sure your cell phone is working prom early on wednesday afternoon. Thats ahead. Youre probably going to hear a Screeching Alert<\/a> from your cell phone on wednesday afternoon. Do not panic. The federal government says it plans to test its Emergency Alert<\/a> system at 2 20 p. M. Eastern, 11 20 a. M. Pacific. The noise will come with a message that reads, quote, this is a test of the National Wireless<\/a> Emergency Alert<\/a> system. 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