Thanks so much for joining us. Us. Ac 360 starts right now. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com tonight on 360, Breaking News, a 9yearold girl who vanished on a bike ride during a camping trip has been found safe. Also the judge who holds the fate of the trump Business Empire in his hands and the Attorney General prosecuting him. The former president was not under oath when he left a federal courthouse in manhattan this evening. At the end of day one of his civil fraud trial, he was under no legal obligation to tell the truth. So, when characterized in the proceedings and why he was there, he didnt. He lied. This was for politics. Now, it has been very successful for them because they took me off the Campaign Trail because ive been sitting in a courthouse all day long instead of being in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, or a lot of other places i could be at. Well, he entered the first day of his trial, in which he has already been found liable for not telling the truth about how much his assets are worth, for not telling the truth about the trial himself. No one forced him to show up. He didnt have to be there. This is a civil, not a criminal proceeding. Nothing in the law requires his presence. He was there because he wanted to draw attention to the case, the case in which one of his attorneys restated some of the same inflated claims about m maralago and other properties that were fraudulent. The former president s complaint about how unfair that judge was that a judge was hearing the case and not a jury. Turns out neither side asked for a jury trial, according to the judge. And trump attorneys acknowledged that the law doesnt allow for a jury trial. Before a court began, the former president was attacking the judge and kept up during the break as well. This is a judge that should be disbarred. This is a judge that should be out of office. This is a judge that some people say could be charged criminally for what hes doing. Hes interfering with an election. And its a disgrace. He also continued to call the new York Attorney general Letitia James racist. To sum things up, the former president of the United States whos been warned in cases of attacking court officers, attacking two court officers. And at the start of the trial, which hinges on his ability to tell the truth about his business holdings, he cannot tell the truth about the trial itself. Kara scannell was in court today. We heard the former president outside court claiming the case was politically motivated. What happened inside the court . Reporter some of that political argument continued inside. Trumps attorney alina habba made a lot of saying Letitia James, the Attorney General, could have brought this case before she was even in office, saying she campaigned, saying she was going to get trump. The judge stopped her and said he had already ruled on this, that the Attorney Generals motivations for bringing this case was not an issue here. And he was backed up by an Appeals Court who agreed with his ruling. Telling her theres really no argument here in the politics of this, she said to the judge she had to address it because the Attorney General did also speak jooitd today, but certainly trying to bring the politics into the courtroom. And the former president , you know, he was watching her intently when she was spar being the judge over this. And he was pretty engaged in the whole day. He was looking at the documents before him. He was watching the witness testimony. And then, as you say, he was coming out at every break to address the cameras that were lining the hallways to the courtroom. And did the former president , the Attorney General interact at all in court . Reporter so, he walked past her. She was sitting in the front row in the corner seat, at least three times, with no acknowledgment. He was glancing away from her, looking down at the floor, when he walked past her. Then he finally did sneak a look at her and glanced over. But there was no obvious eye contact between the two. Interestingly, eric trump, who is a defendant in this case, also walked past the Attorney General a couple of times. Then he stopped, shook her hands, and they exchanged words. Before he left for the day, he stopped by her again and exchanged some words. We dont know what they were. But there was some engagement at that level. But the former president didnt make eye contact. They didnt have any kind of interaction at all, anderson. And as we mentioned, this civil case, not criminal prosecution. Whats at stake for him in terms of penalties potentially . Reporter well the Attorney Generals Office is seeking at least 250 million in penalties. They say thats the money he got by having rates that he would never have gotten on loans and insurance had he been truthful about the voofl his properties. They are also seeking to ban him and his Adult Children from acting as an officer in new york, from engaging in any real estate transactions here for five years, and some other matters. So, theyre looking at not just money but also practical implications. As you said, the judge already found trump was libel for flaud on these statements by putting false values for these properties. And he said the Trump Organization would have to be dissolved by cancelling some of the business certificates. Its unclear what that means and what that will look like, which could be more significant than any Dollar Amount at the end of this trial. Appreciate it. Joining us now, jennifer rogers, Kaitlan Collins, host of the source at the top of the next hour, and Karen Freedman mag fellow. And david k. Johnson, investigative journalist and longtime reporter on all things trumpet. Jennifer, lets start with you. The former president did not have to be there. Why do you think he was . Well, he already has lost a huge part of this case, right . The Summary Judgment that the judge issued ten days or so ago means that the core of the case is over. Now its just a matter of the counts that remain and then the amount that hes going to have to pay and whether or not, as kara said, that theyll be banned from doing business. So, hes on a losing streak. I think he showed up to twist the narrative. Hes not doing anything in court today. He can go outside and say this is a political prosecution and the judge is terrible and the Attorney General is terrible. This is a pr trick. Jennifer, it seemed the attorney in the Opening Statement was playing to him, arguing the politics of this when it had nothing to do with the danger at hand. Z this the danger of having your client there, a client that drives the bus. She has to make this argument the judge has ruled on and ruled against and doesnt like because hes sitting there zmands it. I think hes not going to come every day, and theyll be able to turn their attention to the legal issues. Kaitlan, he has a calculation that he gets something out of attending, not just the ability to get the press attention because hes speaking at every break and lunch break. But it was notable how often he did speak. When he has been arraigned and had all these other weve seen him in courthouses the last several months, he usually makes one statement at the plane and he leaves. He came out almost every instance he could today. Is this a sign of how seriously concerned he is about this case . Yes. I think when you see certainly they are doing this for political benefit. They are trying to fund raise off of it. They were sending out emails nonstop. He was attacking the Attorney General as he was walking into the courtroom moments before we saw him. His political advisers were there with him. When he came out and was speaking he was about as angry as you had seen him in recent months. He seemed to be seething. I was talking to trump resources, and they said that was exactly what they were watching as he was coming out. I think its because of what it is theyre talking about. Its not classified documents. Its not the election. It is something that is deeply personal to him. That is his wealth. Of course theres not a good omen with this with what the judge has decided so far. What they are looking at now is something that is so deeply personal for him. And financially damaging too. Absolutely. David, one of trumps attorneys general said doral would sell for at least A Billion Dollars, maralago at least a billion. The Trump Properties are mona lisa properties. That is not fraud. That is real estate. End quote. Is there some truth to that given the overall shadiness and vagaries of new york real estate, that the brand of trump adds some extra untold value to things or used to. It used to. You hit upon the right thing there. There was a time trump got premium prices for his apartments. Part of the reason when he sold trump tower was he didnt ask questions about who you were. If you said you were going to buy an apartment in the name of snow inc. , donald didnt say is that a seeki resort or a cocain business. So, A Billion Dollars for the doral, im sorry, they just cant stop themselves. They keep coming up with these ridiculous, inflated numbers. Karen, i mean, the phrase mona lisa properties, im not sure how much sway thats going to have with a judge thats declared them to be overwhelming evidence of fraud. But the idea that they are in court, continuing to push these valuations, how does that play . Well, unfortunately, for the trumps, there are these objective measures that the Attorney General is relying upon that arent these subjective, well, this is whatever i want it to be, where the value is this intangible thing that someone will pay for it. There are things, like, the Square Footage of a Penthouse Apartment where they say the value is based on the size and the Square Footage and the price per square foot and they put on a piece of paper that the pent house is actually 30,000 square feet. But it turns out that that penthouse is less than 11,000 square feet. So, they tripled the size of that. And thats an objective measure, right . So, therefore they tripled the value square feet is kind of aspirational is new york. Theres a lot of New Yorkers Dream we all dream about more Square Footage. I just think that theres some objective there are a lot of Objective Factors yes, we do. There are a lot of Objective Factors that they are going to point to that really goes to the heart of this case and how unfair his Business Dealings were. It takes money to make money, and he unfairly got money by lying about the value of things, the size of things, et cetera, so that he can then go and continue to invest that. And then of course when it suited him the opposite direction, like for tax purposes, he doesnt want to pay his fair share of taxes, so he would underinflate the values. And those two things cant be accurate at the same time. So, i think hes going to have objective facts that are going to be pointed to thats going to hard to get away from. David, we can see eric trump behind far behind his father when his father was making his media appearance. Is he the one who has been running this . Is don jr. Just off doing Podcas Podcasts and promoting himself around the country and ivanka just disappeared in florida . Or are they all at fault . Ivanka is out of the case. And her role in things that have written about was primarily to draw in people for various real estate cons that trump was running, not to do the financial side of them. Wait, ivankas role was to draw people in for various cons . Yeah. She went to the sales pitch for what trump said was a development she was building in baja, california, and said, oh, you know, i have a unit too and maybe ill come to your place and have to borrow a cup of sugar. But she wasnt involved in the financial details of it. And she is out of this case. The judge removed her because of when she ceased being involved with the Trump Organization. Eric trump is someone who has given us some of the best quotes about donald and getting money from russia, and that he said whatever he did presumably to try and make nice with Letitia James i think is just indicative that hes not his father. Hes part of the family, but hes not the same person his father is. Jennifer, you heard the former president talk about a rogue judge, again, calling the Attorney General racist. Does that impact a trial like this . So, theres no jury here. Its just the judge. So, i think the judge is trying to just stay even keeled about all this. I mean, the last thing he would want to do is give them the ammunition to say that hes biased by freaking out about trump statements. Unless he goes really far and directs his supporters to, you know, attack them or something, i think you probably will just stay the course and let him say what he wants outside the courtroom and proceed because, you know, theres no jury to be influenced. And also, kaitlan, it should be pointed out, again, the former president is claiming that the federal Department Of Justice is behind this state trial. I just want to play that. It all comes down from the doj that totally coordinated this in washington. Its all run by doj, which is corrupt in washington. Everything goes through them. I mean, at this point, he is just lying. I mean, hes just lying always. I mean, its rather extraordinary. I mean, obviously even for him, it just seems like theres no controls at all. None of that is true. Nothing that he just said there is true. But it fits into what the message hes trying to send to his supporters to fund off of, weaponization. Which is that biden is president and hes going after him. Even though you heard from Attorney General garland yesterday saying, i would resign before President Biden could ask me. Also he said he didnt think President Biden would do that. We spoke with the former District Attorney in new york about this last week after this judge had ruled, cy vance. He said they were building this case and implied to me that he believed it should have been brought as a criminal case, not a civil case. They believed they had it on the right path to get there. That, of course, was long before President Biden was in office, before Merrick Garland was running the Department Of Justice. That was when donald trump was in office and bill barr and Jeff Sessions were running the Department Of Justice. None of that is true. Kaitlan, well see you back at 9 00. Jennifer rogers, thank you so much. Karen, david as well. Coming up next, Breaking News. A missing child who vanished this weekend is alive. The suspect is custody. Well have details ahead. At the capitol, republican congressman matt gaetz announcing he is moving to oust Speaker Mccarthy. We have Breaking News, and it is good news. New York State Police say they have found 9yearold Charlotte Sena safe and in good health after a massive search for her at Moro Lake State Park over the past 48 hours. Also a suspect is detained. The fourth grader vanished on Saturday Night on a camping trip with her family. She had been riding bikes with her friends and left alone. Joining us now is exploited children, son of john walsh, former son of americas most wanted. Callahan, i know your organization was involved in the search for charlotte. Are you hearing anything about how she was found . Were hearing that she was found in good health, which is amazing. Just the fact that she was found alive, you know, i try to put into words i say a grand slam at the world series, but its better than that. Honestly to get this news that she was found safe is amazing. I think there might be a misconception that missing kids arent found alive. Thats not true. Any time we have a stranger abduction like this, a nonfamily member whos taken a child, when we get them back alive, even after 48 hours, its the best thing in the world. John, do you know about the methods authorities were using here to try to find her . There was no method they were not using. So, they were exploiting all options, readers, video cameras, cell towers, looking for some connection. Im told by sources that a note was dropped by the house today. A note . A note. Something akin to a ransom note, some note indicating she was being held. What we dont have nailed down was whether that note was from an abductor or some opportunist. That would be very unusual and strange if somebody involved with this left a note, wouldnt it . Well, i mean, there are Child Abductions by strangers, if that is the case here, are normally not kidnap for ransom cases. That would be unusual. You know, the kidnap for ransom model offers dropping ransom off, the return of the