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CNNW The July 3, 2024

Nays. The ayes and nays are requested. Those favoring a vote by the ayes and nays shall rise. A sufficient number risen, the ayes and nays are ordered. Pursuant to clause 3 of rule 20, the chair directs the clerk to conduct the vote by a call of the roll. The clerk will call the roll alphabetically by surname. The house will be in order. The clerk may call the roll. Adams . Yes. Aye. Aderholt . No. Nay. Aguilar . Aye. Yea. Alford . No. Nay. Allen . No. Nay. Allred . Aye. Yea. Emmaday . No. Nay. Armstrong . No. No. Arrington . No. Nay. O ochenclaus . Yes. Yea. Babbin . No. Nay. Bacon . No. Nay. Baird . No. Nay. Balderson . No. Nay. Ballent . Yes. Yea. Banks . Banks . Barr . No. Nay. Barragan . Yes. Yes. Barragan . Yea. Bean of florida . No. Nay. Beatty . Yes. Yea. Bentz . No. Nay. Berra . Yes. Yea. Birdman . No. Nay. Beyer . Yea. Yea. Bice . No. Nay. Biggs . Aye. Yea. Bilaracas . No. Nay. Bishop of georgia . Yes. Yea. Bishop of North Carolina . Yes. Yea. No. Nay. Bloomhour . Nay. Blunt, rochester . Yea. Yea. Boebert . No for now. Nay. Bonamici . Yes. Yea. Bost . No. Nay. Bowman . Yes. Yea. B boyle of pennsylvania . Yea. Yea. Rakine . No. Nay. Brown . Yes. Yea. Brownlee . Yes. Yea. Buchanan . No. Nay. Buck . Aye. Yea. Bouchon . No. Nay. Businski . No. Burchett . Yea. Burgess . No. Nay. Burleson . No. Nay. Bush . Bush . Calvert . No. Nay. Cammic . Cammic . Caravel . Yes. Yea. Carvajal . Yes. Yea. Cardenas . Yes. Yea. Kerry . No. Nay. Carl . No. Nay. Carson . Aye. Yea. Carter of georgia . No. Nay. Carter of louisiana . Yes. Yea. Carter of texas . Carter of texas . Cartwright . Yes. Yea. Qasr . Yes. Yea. Case . Yes. Yea. Caston. Yes. Yea. Castor of florida . Aye. Yea. Castro of texas . Yes. Yea. Chavez . No. Nay. Mccormick . Yes. Yea. Chu . Aye. Yea. Siscomani . No. Nay. Clark of massachusetts . Aye. Yea. Clark of new york . Yes. Yea. Cleaver . Yes. Yea. Kline . No. Nay. Cloud . No. Nay. Clyburn . Yes. Yea. Clyde . Negative. Nay. Cohen . Yes. Yea. Cole . No. Nay. Collins . No. Nay. Comer . No. Nay. Connelly . Yea. Yea. Correia . Yes. Yea. Costa . Aye. Yea. Courtney . Aye. Yea. Craig . Yes. Yea. Crane . Yes. Yea. Crawford . No. Nay. Crenshaw . No. Nay. Crockett . Yes. Yea. Ceo . Aye. Yea. Cuellar . Yes. Yea. Curtis . No. Nay. Davis of kansas . Aye. Yea. Davidson . No. Nay. Davis of illinois . Yes. Yea. Davis of North Carolina . Aye. Yea. Dean of pennsylvania . Aye. Yea. Diget . Yes. Yea. Dela cruz . No. Nay. Delauro . Yes. Yea. Delbene . Yes. Yea. Deluzio . Yes. Yea. Deso desonnier . Yes. Yea. Dejole . No. Nay. Des desposito . No. Nay. Diazbalart . No. Nay. Dingell . Aye. Yea. Doggett . Yes. Yea. Donalds . No. Nay. Duarte . No. No, nay. Duncan . No. Nay. Dunn of florida . No. Nay. Edwards . No. Nay. Elsing . No. Nay. Emmerer . No. Nay. Escobar . Yes. Yeah. Eshoo . Aye. . Estes . Nay. Nay. Evans . Yes. Yea. Ezell . No. Nay. Fallon . Nay. Nay. Fin stra . No. Nay. Ferguson . No. No. Finstad . No. Nay. Fishbok . No. Nay. Fitzgerald . No. Nay. Fitzpatrick . No. Nay. Fleischman . No. Nay. Fletcher . Yes. Yea. Flood . No. Nay. Foster . Yes. Yea. Fushi . Aye. Yea. Fox . Nay. Nay. Lois frankel . Yes. Yea. C. Scott franklin . No. Nay. Frost . Yes. Yea. Frye . No. Nay. Fulture . No. Nay. Gaetz . Yes. Yea. Gallagher . No. Nay. Gal gallego . Aye. Yea. Garamendi . Yes. Yea. Garbarino . No. Nay. Mike garcia . No. Nay. Robert garcia . Yea. Yea. Garcia of illinois . Yea. Yea. Garcia of texas . Yes. Yea. Jimenez . No. Nay. Golden of maine . Yes. Yea. Goldman of new york . Aye. Yea. Gomez . Aye. Yea. Tony gonzalez . Tony gonzalez . Vicente gonzalez . Yea. Yea. Goode of virginia . Yes. Yea. Gooden of texas . Gooden of texas . Gosar . No. Nay. Gottheimer . Yes. Yea. Granger . No. Nay. Graves of louisiana . No. Nay. Graves of missouri . No. Nay. Green of tennessee . No. Nay. Green of texas . Denies the right to vote. Yea. Greene of georgia . No. Nay. Griffith . No. Nay. Grijalva . Yes. Yea. Growth grothman . No. Nay. Guest . No. Nay. Guthrie . No. Nay. Hageman . No. No. Harter of california . Aye. Yea. Harris . No. Nay. Harshbarger . No. Nay. Hayes . Yes. Yea. Hearne . Nay. Nay. Higgins of louisiana . No. Nay. Higgins of new york . Yes. Yea. Hill . No, nay. Himes . Yes. Yea. Henson . No. Nay. Horseburg. Aye. Yea. Hallchin . No. Nay. Hoolihan . Yes. Yea. Hoyer . Hoyer . Yea. Yea. Hoyle of oregon . Aye. Yea. Hudson . No. Nay. Huffman . Yes. Yea. Huizenga . No. Nay. Hunt . Hunt . No. Nay. Isa . Nay. Nay. Ivy . Yes. Yea. Jackson of illinois . Yes. Yea. Jackson of North Carolina . Yes. Yea. Jackson of texas . No. Nay. Jackson lee . Aye. Yea. Jacobs . Yes. Yea. James . No. Nay. Jayapal . Yea. Yea. Jeffries . Aye. Yea. Johnson of georgia . Yes. . Johnson of louisiana . Nay. Nay. Johnson of ohio . No. Nay. Johnson of south dakota . No. Nay. Jordan . No. Nay. Joyce of ohio . No. Nay. Joyce of pennsylvania . No. Nay. Kim leberdov . Yes. Yea. Kaptur . Aye. Yea. Kane of new jersey . No. Nay. Keating . Yea. Yea. Kelly of illinois . Yea. Yea. Kelly of mississippi . No. Nay. Kelly of pennsylvania . Absolutely not. Nay. Khanna . Yes. Yea. Kiggins of virginia . No. Nay. Killdean . Yes. Yea. Kylie . No. Nay. Kilmer . Yes. Yea. Kim of california . No. Nay. Kim of new jersey . Yes. Yea. Krishn krishnamoorthi . Yes. Yea. Custer . Yes. Yea. Kustoff . No. Nay. Will hood . No. Nay. Hall halota . . No. Nay. Bla lamborn . Nay. As the clerk collects the yeas and nays, we should take a moment to pause. While we do not know the final outcome of this vote, reading the tea leaves and doing the basic math, six House Republicans have already voted to remove Kevin Mccarthy as speaker. If the house continues to vote the way we expect them to, based on the last vote, this likely means that Kevin Mccarthy will lose this vote, which means that for the first time in the history of the United States of america, a speaker will have been removed from his leadership position . That has never happened. There was a vote similar to this in 1910, but it did not succeed, dana bash. The moment of this cannot be underlined enough how historical and shocking it is, and in a few minutes, if everything goes according to what we think is going to happen, there will not be a House Speaker. Its very easy to sort of get caught in toing and froing, and the he saidshe said within the republican conference right now, but that really is. This is a banner headline moment. The Constitutional Office of speaker, second in line to the president of the United States, as you said, if this goes as its going right now will be vacant. It is a motion to vacate. It will be vacant. There will not be somebody in that role. Lets go back because we expect a seventh House Republican, and then well continue to discuss this. Luna . Luna . Latrell . Nay. Nay. Lynch . Yes. Yea. Mace . Aye. Yea. Manager . Yes. Yea. M maliotokas . No. Nay. Mann . No. Nay. So thats congress wan nancy mace of South Carolina who is the seventh House Republican to vote nay, further sealing the fate of Kevin Mccarthy. David chalian, a remarkable moment. This truly is historic. I mean, i know it seems as though journalists are always saying things are historic, especially since donald trump came down that escalator. But this has never happened in the history of the entire United States, from 1776 until now, this has never happened. That kind of defines what a historic moment, right . If its never happened before. And its hugely significant because i think it tells us where we are in our politics today. Clearly, for everyone to see, there is something broken in our politics. And i dont know that weve seen how its all going to get fixed yet, but this is the example that is being shown to the American People today of how its not functioning the way it was designed to function. And in that i mean anybody who looks at this, remember, the house is a majority rule body. I mean, much more so than the senate in its design. And yet i dont know, seven were up to . Eight members of the majority conference are clearly asserting their will here to rid the speaker of the house, who has the support of the vast majority of his conference. But that is where the trajectory of the Republican Party over the last 20 years has landed us right now. And it has reverberations beyond just the Republican Party. I think for the country at large. Lets listen in, because cory mills from florida is also somebody were listening to hear how he votes. Miller meeks . No. Nay. Mills . Mills . Molinaro . No. Nay. Molnar . No. Nay. Mooney . Nay. Nay. Moore of alabama . No. Nay. Moore of utah . No. Nay. Moore of wisconsin . Aye. Yea. Moran . No. Nay. So cory mills, republican of florida did not vote. He can always go back and vote on the floor or in the well later on. The next one were looking for is Congressman Rosendale from montana. So we have some time. What is interesting, kasie hunt about all of this, obviously, and literally history will decide, but Kevin Mccarthy tried to appease this group, this maga caucus. Yep. And maybe a different approach would have worked. Maybe a different approach wouldnt have gotten him the speakership. I dont know. But he tried to appease this caucus and it did not work. Well, i think there are some lessons in history on appeasement, jake, and where you end up when you pursue that. And i dont i guess it feels like ancient history now, world war ii. But it wasnt. And i think that this shows that he tried as hard as he could, and he made this pivot at the very last second, right. That sound bite that came out yesterday that sounded like a complete change in tone. Im doing this for the institution. Trying to suddenly appeal to democrats, because i think he realized that he was out of options. And where that leaves us is in a moment, as weve been discussing, that weve never experienced before as a nation. A u. S. House of representatives, which while its technically the senate likes to call it the lower chamber. It is the peoples house. It is considered the speaker. It is the speaker who is second in line to the presidency. Not a member of the senate. It is an extraordinarily important piece of our government. They have decided summarily to essentially remove their own head and not put anything in charge of it. And if we wake up tomorrow morning and there is no speaker of the house, thats going to be a real seminal moment for all of us. Well see what happens, which seems to be on track to remove mccarthy for the moment as speaker. It sounds like theyll probably get together in a conference and talk about it. They could potentially try to put somebody else. Mccarthy could try to put himself back up and vote over and over and over again until somebody gives. I think it is worth, as you have been doing, sitting with this for just a moment. And realizing what it represents in terms of our politics as a whole and how we got here. Yeah. Obviously, just two notes on that. We do not expect that theyll get rid of mccarthy and then adjourn for the night. We expect there will be an effort to name a new speaker and vote on a new speaker. We think. Obviously one never knows with the nihilist caucus as to what theyre going to do. But one presumes that i will try. Matt gaetz has already mentioned congressman tom cole as a possible replacement that would be acceptable to him, although who knows. And also for anybody wondering what happens then in the case of an emergency, the speaker of the house not existing, what happens if they need one, or if in the line of succession, the absolute worst thing happens, a meteor hits earth and they need a speaker of the house, do not worry. The parliamentarian has a list of people that Speaker Mccarthy gave to the parliamentarian when he became speaker of individuals who could fill that role, members of congress, should he be incapacitated for any reason. Thats a real helpful list, maybe for past speakers who had more control. Its a secret list. Yes, but its a list he knew hed have to use based on the deal he made, frankly, at the beginning of this process. So while this is a breaking news story, its also the worrells longest unfolding story, as we have been asking many times, Speaker Mccarthy, will this hurt your speakership . Will that hurt your speakership. Weve been hearing a lot. The other thing i wanted to ask you, lawmakers, you either fund raise really well or legislate really well or find the camera really well. A and the balance is shifting over which one of those talents is most useful. Absolutely. And some of that is symbiotic. If youre raising a lot of money you probably do tv very well. Its why some of the second or third members of congress let me interrupt. Im sorry. Were in the rs and listening for rosendale. Ill come back in a second. Rose . No. Nay. Rosendale . Aye. Yea. Ross . Yea. Yea. Rouser . No. Nay. Roy . Nay. Nay. Ruiz . Yes. Yea. That was the eighth vote from a House Republican in favor of removing House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy, this one from congressman Matt Rosendale of montana. Really, quite stunning turn of events. I guess we knew this was coming because of how they voted on proceeding to this vote itself. But still, doug, im sorry i interrupted. Please proceed. I first met mccarthy in 1996. Ive known for a long, long time. Gotten on with him very well. Had good fights with his staff, good conversations with his staff, Government Shutdowns working with his staff. And a lot of the questions im hearing is not really what happens to kevin now and all those kind of Human Instincts that you would have. Its we need to have a functioning government. We also need to have a functioning Republican Party. And what weve seen essentially since 2010, if not the 2010 takeover is we keep shooting ourselves in the foot and getting higher and higher and higher. Now its the head of the house. Where does it stop . Paul . Well, it began with Kevin Mccarthy when he made that deal on the 15th or 16th ballot to become speaker. And its a little wonky, but its really important. We gave the congress the power to remove the speaker on the motion of one person. Before that rule change, it required a majority of one of the two parties, which today would be 106 people. He gave it. It was like the frog and the scorpion. He is the frog who led a Scorpion Ride its nose and he is surprised that the scorpion has stung him and drowned them both. As the scorpion said to the frog, i couldnt help myself. Its just my nature. Thats matt gaetzs nature. Jake, thanks very much. Here with alyssa farah gingrich, s. E. Cupp as well as we continue to watch the counting of these votes. Lets talk a little bit about the democrats decision not to throw a lifeline to Kevin Mccarthy. Ive been talking to democrats all day, and really all week about this. And no stomach whatsoever, no appetite to save Kevin Mccarthy. You think about what happened in terms of the Impeachment Process that started with the president. They find him to be unreliable, that you cant cut a deal with Kevin Mccarthy and think its going to stuck. So why would you cut a new deal with Kevin Mccarthy . Because if things got tight, you cant count on him to actually show up and do what he committed to do. House minority leader kim jeffries wrote its now the responsibility of the gop leaders to end the Republican House civil war given their break from maga extremism, House Democratic leadership will vote yes on the pending republican. Lets listen in. Smucker . No. Nay. Sorenson . Yes. Yea. Soto . Yes. Yea. Spanberger . Yes. Yea. Spartz . No. Nay. Stansbury . Aye. Yea. Sorry, what was that, s. E. . I was just listening for spartz out of indiana. She had said that she was going to vote not to vacate Kevin Mccarthy. But that was an interesting one to listen to. Despite last night i spoke to her, and she was considering it. Yes. Because she is not too thrilled with Kevin Mccarthy either, but decided she decided to go forward with the vote to vacate, but then decided not to actually vacate. So some people we will probably see them doing that. To your earlier question about what democrats decided just a few minutes ago, our clegg annie grayer speaking to jim clyburn on the floor tonight says that a lot of democrats were upset with mccarthy because of what he said on Face The Nation this nation, blaming democrats for bringing the country to the brink of a government shutdown. To me, that is not just about that particular moment. For democrats, it clearly signified that mccarthy is not reformed. He is not interested in doing the right thing for the right reasons. He still has his deeply partisan political hat on. And i think that as democrats looked at the situation and said is this someone we can work with, is this someone who has the best interests of the body at heart, those comments really cut against that. And clearly hurt him according to clyburn. Some democrats that might have even considered voting present, they all Rank And File went with the entire groups consensus, which was to not bail mccarthy out in this moment. And it probably didnt have to be quite like this if he had played it a bit of a different way. I think it goes back even further than that. If you think of how Kevin Mccarthy assumed the speakership, it was by making tremendous concessions to the far right flank, from giving Video Footage to Tucker Carlson of the january 6th insurrection to the capitol, to putting <

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