Members tried to throw out their speaker, and it didnt work then. 113 years later for the very first time members tried to throw out their speaker, but this time, this time, anderson and kaitlan, they succeeded. Yeah. And jake and anderson, of course Kevin Mccarthy only serving for 269 days. His speakership undone by eight Rebel Republicans led by congressman matt gaetz of florida. Using that rule to force him out that mccarthy himself agreed to, of course, as a condition to get the job as House Speaker. Now a vote, at least an election is expected next week, a week from now, a week from tomorrow night. The jockeying for the position, though, is already under way tonight and cnns Melanie Zanona is covering it all at the capitol. Melanie, whats the latest we just heard from Kevin Mccarthy saying hes not going to try to run for speaker again . Who is going to enter this race . Reporter kaitlan, that is the question right now, and weve heard from a number of republicans who say there are a couple names floating around, and that includes Steve Scalise. He is the number two republican, the House Majority leader. He is seen as the likely next in line, the heir apparent. And i am told that he has been Calling Members tonight, his team has also been Calling Members, and that he is already lining up supporters. One of those members who heard from him tonight said hes getting a good amount of support already. So just to give you a sense of how quickly things are moving here. But ill tell you, there are some other names in the mix as well. Im told there are some members who have been encouraging jim jordan to run. He is a conservative. He was a cofounder of the freedom caucus. But hes also become a Kevinmark Karthy ally. He is the chairman of the judiciary committee. And he is someone whos also seen as a potential contender here. Now, its unclear if he would run. He was asked by our manu raju earlier whether he would be open to doing so and he said its up to the conference. So clearly leaving it open, though its unclear whether he would mount a challenge to Steve Scalise. Were hearing some other names as well. Kevin hern, hes the head of the republican study committee, which is the largest conservative caucus in the house. But at this point, kaitlan, it looks like Steve Scalise is making moves to become the next speaker. They have until next week. Theres going to be a Candidate Forum on tuesday for any speaker candidates to try to make their pitch. And then they will move to try to elect a speaker on wednesday. So again, things moving quickly. But as of right now the house is paralyzed and they cannot conduct any rother Business Untl they elect a new speaker. Theyre moving quickly but not necessarily that quickly if theyre going to wait over a week before they hold that election. Given they have such a time crunch with the time to fund the government when this temporary bill they just passed runs out, is there a sense of why they are waiting this period of time to pick a new speaker . Reporter well, listen, they are in such a period of uncertainty and they just didnt want to start ramming an election down the republicans throats again. They wanted to give some time, especially now that Kevin Mccarthy has stepped aside, it is really a whole new ball game, unlike in january where he was in the race for round after round. No one else was willing to step up to the plate. But someone like Steve Scalise, for example, has long been waiting in the wings. He never wanted to challenge Kevin Mccarthy outright. But now that hes out of the picture hes clearly making his moves. But ill tell you back to your earlier point about government funding, that was a concern raised by a lot of republican members today about if they were to go forward with the motion to vacate and potentially oust Kevin Mccarthy as speaker, which they did, that it was going to delay their appropriations process. The same appropriations process, we should point out, that matt gaetz had been fighting for. So now all of that is delayed. They were supposed to be marking up bills this week and next week, trying to move toward that November 17th deadline. Thats going to be a lot harder. And i can tell you whoever is going to be the next speaker is immediately going to have to deal with that next challenge. And the question becomes what do they do . Do they have to pass a shortterm stopgap bill to keep the government open and avoid a shutdown, the very thing that Kevin Mccarthy was punished for . A lot of questions here tonight in the capitol, kaitlan. Not exactly an appealing job, melanie. Keep us updated on whos in line for that race. Im joined by republican congressman tim burchett of tennessee, one of the eight republicans who voted against Kevin Mccarthy who we spoke to last night. First i want to get you to respond to something we just heard from former speaker Kevin Mccarthy, who was saying essentially that the eight of you who voted to oust him are not real conservatives. Whats your response to that . Well, thats id say hes bitter and ill take it at that. My concern all along has been that we took six weeks off, as you know, in august and september. We take in 5 trillion a year. We spend 7 trillion. We pass continued resolution after continued resolution. And the reason they do that is so we dont have a shot at it. Were required really by law to do a couple of things. Pass a budget and the 12 appropriations bills. Yet they do a continuation, continued resolution, to hide a lot of things in my opinion. Grease their Lobbyist Buddies and the powerful stay in power. And they all say this is a terrible thing and then they say were going to pass this continuing resolution so we wont have to pass another so when he says youre not looking to be productive you think hes wrong . Hes absolutely wrong. I want a budget. Why are they afraid of a budget . Jody arrington out of texas is an excellent chairman of the budget committee. I was on the budget committee. I asked to be taken off because weve never done any budgets. Now jody gets on, he brings a budget, they bring it before conferencee gets his ten minutes, they gave him a little complimentary golf clap and send him on his way. But were required to pass a budget. Every state in this great union passes a budget. I come from tennessee where id say your family has a budget, mine does, church, synagogue, your charity, your business, we have a budget. But this place back here doesnt have a budget. Did you bridng this up it sounds like you had quite a testy phone call with the speaker after you and i spoke last night and you said you were praying about the decision. You say he basically was mocking you for saying you were being thoughtful about it. He belittled what i said. And i thought ill listen to what he said and i thought to myself maybe hell change my mind. And then when his opening salvo i guess was that i said i think the lord gave me my answer right then, honestly, because i dont mocking god to me crosses the line. And i thought it showed his character. But thats over. Hes out. And were looking ahead to a new speaker. And of course that election is now not going to happen for over another week. Are you happy that lawmakers are leaving town without electing a new speaker . Heck, no. I was angry. Thats another reason i was angry at the speaker before, because we left town when we should have been working. We took a long weekend till a tuesday. I realized there was a jewish there was a jewish holiday which i think we ought to honor. Yet we could have come back, we could have worked up to that point, and we chose not to. And again, we passed a continued resolution for 45 days. Here it is day 42 and were not we havent addressed it up to this point. We come in late, we leave early. The rest of americas not. I can guarantee you theyre working. Thats going to be the challenge for the next House Speaker. Were hearing names that people like Steve Scalise, jim jordan, kevin hearn. Do you like any of those . Have you heard i love them. Theyre all great. Have you heard from them tonight . No, i have not. But actually, ive been on the media trail pretty hot and heavy. I think Elise Stefanik could be one. Maybe mark green out of tennessee. Theres a lot of people that we have a very deep bench. I dont think thats going to be the problem. And i think once we elect this person i think we can probably do it in the first round, and i think also people will rally around them and youll see just like when you put a new quarterback in in the second half after youve been getting beat up on a little bit you start taking command. Yeah, weve seen that at alabama a lot this season. When it comes to what is that a shot over the bow of being a tennessee boy . Yall play football in alabama . Im trying to well get back to that in a moment. But when it comes to what the rules for the next House Speaker actually look like, will you insist on keeping that onevote motion to vacate for whoevers the next House Speaker . You know, i dont know. Ive thought about that a lot. But i havent really reasoned that out in my mind. I dont know that its important. I think it served its purpose. And honestly, i dont know that it serves the purpose it once did. But you know, it was on the books for years. I think since maybe the 20s. Until Speaker Pelosi had taken it out. But it sounds like youre okay with it staying. Yeah, i wouldnt mind. I voted for those rules. I thought that was i thought it was i awise decision, and i think it served us well. I think it holds them accountable to the people. And i dont have a problem with accountability, which is something this town lacks a lot of. And transparency. Congressman tim burchett, thank you for coming over here to join us tonight. Jake of course, a lot of questions here about what that is going to look like going forward. A little fist bump there. Even though he is a tennessee guy, we dont play them until the end of the month. Its nice to see a little crossborder action there. Thanks, kaitlan. Even though this is playing out as a fight among House Republicans, obviously the interest in having a functioning House Of Representatives is bipartisan. Its frankly nonpartisan. And obviously, it does include everyone including the democrats in the Executive Branch and cnns Kayla Tausche is at the white house for us. Kayla, what is the reaction at the white house this evening . There is not a speaker of the house. Reporter well, jake, the white house is trying to project an image of calm and to strike a contrast with the chaos on capitol hill. And just this evening the administration releasing a statement urging House Republicans to elect a speaker quickly so that both sides of Pennsylvania Avenue can get back to the business of governing. But aides tell me that President Biden is going to aim to strike a tone of business as usual throughout the rest of the week. Tomorrow he has a policyfocused speech on student loans, and today in messaging blasts that the white house has put out for many weeks, in todays they announced a split screen of President Biden touting his negotiations for lower drug prices, contrasted with republicans trying to repeal the legislation that authorizes the president to do that. Not highlighting the motion to vacate or any of the drama that was happening on capitol hill. But thats the white house trying to stay above the fray. The Democratic National committee posting on Social Media Platform X has reacted somewhat with glee, calling the gop a threering circus and posting movie memes. And in some of those same splitscreen images taking their own liberties and pointing out that chaos for that motion to vacate. Well, it was chaotic. And for some reason, a reason that eludes my understanding, the republicans have decided to take a weeklong break before picking their next leader, although they could be doing it right now. Presumably. Im not the only one asking this question. Is there and i realize that even if you know the answer to this the democrats in the building behind you might not want the answer public. But is there a particular republican in the House Of Representatives that the white house might think would be the easiest to deal with in terms of lets think of two pressing issues, ukraine aid and avoiding another Government Shutdown, which is coming down in just like 43 days . Reporter well, certainly having a week off is not going to help the effort to avoid a Government Shutdown by any stretch of the imagination. And securing more aid for ukraine would be seen as the administrations first priority. Just today the administration suggested once again that it was assured by House Leadership and the chairs of the Relevant National security committees in the house that there would be support for that aid. But jake, when you look at their Voting Records, which is one of the things that the white house points to often, you sort of have a spectrum of support and a pretty wide range if that among the names that have been floated so far. Tom emmer, based on his Voting Record and his public statements so far, would be seen as the staunchest supporter for ukraine aid. Then you have Steve Scalise, the number two republican, who would be somewhat in the middle. Hes made some neutral statements recently. And its unclear whether when john kirby, the nsc spokesman, was saying there was support among House Leadership, whether he was referencing Steve Scalise as part of that bucket. And then of course theres hardliners like kevin hearn and jim jordan, who would be seen as antiukraine based on their Voting Records. But betagain, kirby has suggest those are a very vocal few and theyre in the minority and they still believe there would eventually be support. All right. Kayla tausche at the white house. Thanks. Senate Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell just weighed in. Quoting from his statement, which reads in part, Speaker Mccarthy has my sincere thanks for his service to our nation in what is often a thankful role. The speakers tenure was bookended by historic fights, but as he reminded his colleagues when he took the gavel, our nation is worth fighting for. Minority leader mcconnell from kentucky tonight. Back with the panel. And dana bash, i wonder if there are viewers, voters out there who are thinking to themselves, boy, if i worked for an organization that couldnt get its act together i dont know that i would then immediately be taking a weeklong vacation. That doesnt seem to me to be the response that every other person in the rest of the world would immediately be doing. Taking a week off. Good job, everybody. You know, we just did the first ever motion to vacate. We no longer have a speaker of the house. Lets all go to barbados. I dont think theyre going to barbados, although that does sound really nice right about now. Theyre taking a week off. Well, theyre taking a week to pick a new speaker. I dont know the answer. Do they not know each other . They need to get acquainted . Were all in New Territory about whether or not committees are going to happen and organize tomorrow. They adjourned. No committees tomorrow. I think they all they all went home. The house adjourned. All right. So i dont know that its a vacation. But it is i think the point youre making and what i have been wondering is why werent they ready for this . I mean, this is everybodys like oh my gosh, its shocking, its no. We knew starting on sunday when matt gaetz told you that he was going to make a motion to vacate that it was very likely that this would happen. Very likely. So why wasnt there a backup . Why wasnt there why werent there already discussions about who would be the person to go in . I think the answer is because the people who might want to be speaker didnt want to get out ahead of Kevin Mccarthy because that would look bad. And it would probably sink them with the very people that they need. Im sort of answering my own question. But youre right. It doesnt necessarily take an entire week to do it. You saw and you mentioned the fervor with which Patrick Mchenry hit that gavel down. I thought he was going to sprain his wrist. And to me looking at it, hes trying to get everybody hes trying to lower the temperature, get everybody to calm down. My experience on capitol hill is that i dont know if you agree with me. And audie, we covered the hill together as well. When you send people home, it stirs people up rather than keeping people in town sometimes. It has the opposite effect. Well, one, youre sending them back to their constituents, who are going to call offices. Matt gaetz included. Two, shock and awe. These people are shocked. As much as they shouldnt be, it was very clear that they thought they were calling some sort of bluff and tha