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CNNW CNN July 3, 2024

Speaker fired, it has been a day for the history books. Indeed. Kevin mccarthys old job will no longer no doubt safe to say, jake and anderson, of course, the news continues tonight. Our special coverage here certainly does. Joining me now, abby phillip and laura coates. Good evening, everyone, i am abby phillip alongside my colleagues laura coates and kaitlan collins. This is a Special Edition of Cnn Primetime for an unprecedented moment in the history of the United States. The headline tonight the American Government is broken. The tyranny of a minority is now paralyzing this countries institutions. Depending on where you might stand politically, it could be for better or worse, in your view, but right now, here is where we are there is currently no speaker of the house and, after narrowly avoiding a shutdown, the government is set to run out of money in less than 45 days. And houses now leaving for a week. Now, all of this is because, for the very first time ever, republicans have successfully out today six setting setting speaker. And full of hardliners complain that Kevin Mccarthy did not do enough to curb spending, even though the party did not seem too concerned about that during the trump era, when the nations debt skyrocketed. The tensions played out in private in these angry meetings, and then on the floor around the vote today. We need a speaker, ideally somebody who does not want to be speaker, and has not pursue that at all costs for his entire adult life. I am very proud of the speaker. I am very proud to stand behind him. A red line was crossed for me, i regret, on saturday. And so its regret that i must vote against the motion to table, as i did, and vote to vacate the chair. Kevin mccarthy has earned this. Chaos is Speaker Mccarthy. Chaos is somebody who we cannot trust with their world word. He has kept his word. I think we should keep him as speaker. I think it is time to make a change. Not the only one everyone who knows Kevin Mccarthy, whether they are friend or foe, knows that Kevin Mccarthy is a happy warrior. I will just say, if this House Of Representatives has exceeded all expectations, and we definitely need direct a shuns. The office of speaker of the house of the United States House Of Representatives is hereby declared vacant. Tonight the big news . Mccarthy told his party he will not run for the speakership again. I will never give up on the American People. That doesnt mean i have to be speaker to do what i have to do for the American People. But at this point, the question really is, who would even want this job . The speakership. Absolutely not. I have no desire laura coates, matt gaetz there, seemingly and unwittingly admitting that everyone likes to throw bombs, but leading, ultimately, is hard. Yeah, and he has no intention of actually trying to get that gavel, he just did not want Kevin Mccarthy together, as you know. Joining me now, abby, is republican Congressman Bob Good of virginia. Is one of the eight republicans who voted to remove Kevin Mccarthy as speaker of the house. Thank you for being here. And congressman, what a day. Indeed, it was. And quite frankly a for the American People, because this was a blow against the status quo, a blow against the establishment swamp, the d. C. Swamp cartel. Theres a reason why congress has at 20 Approval Rating at 80 of americans are we are on the wrong track, both parties have contributed to that, and while it is the democrat parties that are in place that are destroying the country, that are crushing regular americans with high Interest Rates and inflation and grocery prices and an open border, but republicans have also contributed in terms of not making real change, not fighting when we have the house majority, and so this was a blow against that status quo, and i fight for change, with most americans wanting congress. Its interesting. You mentioned the status quo as the perspective that you bring here. But for many of the American People, they are looking at congress more broadly as dysfunctional. You have now voted to our Speaker Mccarthy. There is no Succession Plan in place. And so for all the things you have just named, this has really been a paralyzing moment. Nothing can get done in the same way you are talking about. Why has there been no Succession Plan . Was that not contemplated . I would reject that there was no Succession Plan. Because what you typically have when you are choosing a speaker is youve got the presumptive speaker, the Party Candidate that everyone has the support. Everyone is afraid to raise their hand and say they are candidate because of retaliation or consequence, because they get support, the presumptive one, most members of Congress Just vote for whoever the party says to. Tell me when there was an upset vote for speaker. When has that happened in the History Of Modern Times . Now we will have a contest. We will have a competition where all members are equal in terms of their opportunities to throw their had in a ring. We will have a candidate for mom tuesday night. Between now and then we will that candidates, meet with candidates, talk with him. They will try to build coalitions of support and we are a talented group of individuals. And some of them will rise and get to 218, because we have to, quite frankly. And sometimes people will say, well, congress is not getting things done. Tell me what you are getting i dont care who does the surgery, i dont care what they do. Just get something done, do something. Most of what we are doing or has been doing historically has been hurting the American People. The American People are suffering. They dont feel Like Washington is working for them. Weve got 33 children and national debt. Weve got an open border. Weve got a depleted military. Weve got an american weekend on the National Stage and a congress i would note has low Approval Ratings. We want to try to get it right. We want to get a ride with the best speaker that we can put forward and that will help lead the change the American People voted for when they give 1000 majority battle in last november. And yet, when i look at the calendar, and you mentioned that this will not take place until next week, an actual vote, you will be without a leader for a week. Mccarthy is not running again. It takes 218 votes, as you said. Who can actually get to these votes to try to drive home the point that you are making . I know that gaetz keeps pointed to congressman steve scalise. But he does not seem to want that job and of course it did take 15 rounds, despite what you say was kind of a foregone conclusion. It took 15 rounds for mccarthy to even get. So, who do you not support . It only took 15 rounds because we broke history ended something that had not happened in 160 years, when members of congress back in january voted against the presumptive, later their presumptive speaker that had not happen in 60 years, and that put changes in place on how congress would operate. We return to regular order, where members in the Minority Party and the Majority Party have had input, amendments, working through committee, minimum at a time to read bill s and ability to make amendments from the floor, as i noted. That has made congress stronger and, frankly, we have restore the ability to remove the speaker if he was not living up to the obligation and commitment that he made to become speaker. So, that is how our Constitutional Republic is supposed to work. That is how a legislative body is supposed to work. And we have restored that in congress and congressman, i dont want to cut you off. I know you as you mentioned, but right now, whoever the candidate will be, if you are talking about just say the attractiveness of a particular job you have got this now motion to vacate option that is there. Certainly, pelosi did not have it. But has been and play for quite sometime. Will you demand that, whoever it is, who stepped up to the plate, hoping to become the next speaker, do you demand that they also operate at the same motion to vacate option . Absolutely. It was in place for 200 years until nancy pelosi changed. It was good for thomas jefferson. It should be good for our speaker today. A strong, secure, constantly to recognize that he or she serves at the pleasure of those who elect him. And the good thing is, we all started from an equal footing, trying to earn the support of 218, we will have a vested interest into that and i said on the house floor, after he was elected back in january, but because we all had voted in this person, and we are committed as a conference to coming together and finding that best person who can get to 218 votes. Just this past saturday, a can was kicked down the road in terms of a government shutdown. 45 days away is now the next opportunity. You cut into that, a week of time now, when somebody is no longer going to be the speaker of the house. Are you not concerned that there will not be enough time to steer the government in the right direction and try to follow through with what you are objectives are . I appreciate you making that point about last saturday. Last saturday was a failure. Congress fell back, under Speaker Mccarthy, what we have been doing our appropriations bills. Thats how you get a 33 Trillion Dollars in debt, a trillion dollars in year and interest on the, Debt Directory to get a 50 Trillion Dollars of debt in the years, unsustainable, bankrupting our kids and our grandkids and policies destroying the country. Our commitment was to change that. And the speaker did not join us in changing that. And when he failed and reverted back to the status quo in the past, we removed him as speaker, and thats a win for the American People. Some would look at this as not a win in the sense of bipartisan was what was in part achieved. I understand the point that you are raising wholeheartedly. But if a failure is keeping the government open, i wonder how some would define success. Let me ask you this about what congressman matt gaetz had to say. Because he has been, as you probably heard by now, fundraising off of what took place earlier today, in a motion to vacate. Do you think that is appropriate . All members fundraise all the time. You are in a twoyear Election Cycle and it takes millions of dollars to get to congress, it takes millions of dollars to stay in congress. Dont think that the swamp wont strike back, the umpire wont strike back, and those who are willing to stand up and be counted and fight for the American People instead of fighting for the donor class and the lobbyist and case treated wall street. They are fighting for the American People. Dont you think theyre going to have a target on their back . So, why would they let the American People know that the they stand with them and if the American People stand with them they do you feel you have a target on your back, obviously, figuratively speaking here, given your vote against Speaker Mccarthy . Because as you can imagine there is a select few number of congressman. And when compared to, those, of course, who voted to keep him in power on the republican side, do you feel that you are now vulnerable based on your choice . I just will tell you this. That back in january and again today, you had members of Congress Make history by being willing to risk their own personal careers, their own personal ambitions in terms of what was safe and secure, just through the status quo and to do what they believe was right, irrespective of the costs. We need more courage in washington. And we need more people willing to do that. Are you going to put your name into the ring . Right now i am only 217 votes away from getting to 218, so, if your endorsement will help me get there, if you wanted to go ahead and give that to me tonight. We are not doing that this evening. Congressman bob good, thank you so much. Thank you. The chapters of mccarthys political career perfectly explained, the republican parties Rollercoaster Ride over the past decade. At first, mccarthy was thought to be the future of the party, a new generation of fiscally conservative lawmakers. But as you can see there, the three of the young guns on this book cover all long gone. Paul ryan, who is also the House Speaker, had trouble corraling the Second Chapter of mccarthys career begins with an escalator. He hitched his wagon to the trump train and he became an ally through the impeachments and through the election lies and all of it. And then next there was mccarthys pilgrimage to maralago for a photo op, not long after the insurrection that he blamed trump for despite those lies that led to the attack in the workplace. And the final chapter, this picture, from back in january, that is mccarthy and matt gaetz, face to face, on the floor, before mccarthy eventually agreed to neuter his own power just so that he could become speaker after 15 rounds. How do you expect to govern this way, that it has been taking this long to see, this is the great point. Because it took this long, now we govern. So, now we will be able to get the job done. Fast forward to right now. The epilogue of the republican young guns is playing out before our eyes. And joining me now to discuss all of this is andrew yang, former 2020 president ial candidate and author of the last election, along with cnn political analyst coleman hughes, host of the conversation podcast, and also commentator s. E. Cupp and jamal simmons, former Communications Director for kamala harris, and also a cnn commentator. Jamal, basically you really could argue that this was years in the making. It was used in the making. Establishment Republican Party has done a deal with the sort of antiestablishment rogue forces, where anger is really the testament of how you are true. We talk about people being moderate. But they are not moderate in the sense that we may think of it of, oh, they have positions close to the. Center theyre just not yelling and screaming all the time when trying to overturn the system. And so i think what Kevin Mccarthy has done a sort of proven that it is sometimes better to think about doing important things than it is to think about just doing an important job. He has had a job. But he did not actually get very much done when he had the job. And i think i imagine that there will come a moment from him in the dark of night, a little bit away from now, where he thinks, i probably should have done a little bit more. I doubt it. A lot of selfrefraction selfreflection. I came up with the young guns. Kevin mccarthy always wanted to be speaker. Obviously, his ambition await his dignity, apparently, because he made this deal with mack matt gaetz, and other troublemakers, to essentially sign his own death certificate, whenever they wanted. And so he is leaving the way he came in. Really with matt gaetz holding his faith in his hands. Dont be surprised if you lose them the way you get them. Its so funny. Because he actually talked a lot about, first of all, this job being such a thing for him, from since he was a child, and how he did not get a job as an intern, but then he got a job as a speaker, to your point. Very important to him. It was brought up on the floor today. Yes. I want to play this, for mccarthy, we are he had plenty of blame for the conservatives, of course, in his conference, but also on the democrats. Take a listen. I think today was a political decision by the democrats. I think the things they have done in the past her the institution. They just started moving people from committee. They just started the other things. My fear is the institution fell to them. Because you cant do the job if you are eight people. You have 94 , or 96 of your entire conference, but eight people can partner with the whole other side. How do you govern . I am honestly trying to understand that. Because he was the one who agreed to that rule that gave 3 , 6 , whatever percentages of the conference, all of this power. Yeah. There is no way around the fact that this is a huge win for matt gaetz. This is just this if you think about this from the perspective of whoever the next speaker is, they have to be thinking, is i really have to take this matt gaetz seriously. Because he is really willing to blow it all up. It gives him a lot more leverage. And it ends up in some strange way being an own goal for the democrats. Like corona, mccarthy, he was not the worst a speaker could get. He was not the most radical you could get, right . It could be the case that we get replaced someone, somebody were, somebody that is more friendly to the matt gaetz and Marjorie Taylor greenes and more calm potent competent some kind of brokered deal, Power Sharing Agree

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