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CNNW CNN July 3, 2024

Pyromaniacs and saboteurs are the republican words about his colleagues responsible for removing the speak e of the house, and now furious phone calls in a fight the replace the speaker, and what we are hearing from those jumping into the race now. And reversal of President Biden now supporting a new barrier on the mexican border. A massive strike in ukraine today, and the deadliest russian strike in ukraine for over a year. Im kate bolduan with sara sidner and john berman, and this is cnn news central. This morning, the house is essentially frozen and unable to legi legislate, because it has no leader. The house members have gone home to their districts and that means any legislative work is stalled until the House Republicans can come together to elect a new speaker to replace Kevin Mccarthy hoohios jim jon and Steve Scalise say they will take the job, but the road to 218 votes is fraught. This is what one republican congressman told john berman last hour. If we dont change the foundational problems within our conference, it is going to be the same stupid clown car with a different driver. Matt gaetz and those hardliners are a real problem, and i dont think that the pyromaniacs are going to be satisfied after they have burned down one house. They will have a itching to burn down a couple more. Perhaps the strongest words of discontent that we have heard yet. Lauren fox is joining us from capitol hill, and you spoken to jim jordan this morning, and what is he saying, what is the plan . Yeah, sara, the emotions up here are running high for House Republicans, and nerves are raw. Jim jordan is arguing that he is the man who can unite the republican conference and arguing that the eight rebels are friends of his. That is what he says. I disagree with what took place, but those guys are friends of mine, and you know, i think thats the message i have been talking to my colleagues about is who can bring the eight into, part of the team, who can unite the team, and i think that i can do that and if i didnt think that i could do that, i would not run. There are a lot mccarthy allies seeking retribution against those eight including matt gaetz and you have heard for some republicans called for him to be iked can out of the conference and this is highly unlikely, and you have heard from the republicans who believe that the foundational rules of this congress, especially the rule that allowed matt gaetz to bring forward this vote as one member to oust mccarthy that the rules need to change, but i talked to one of the hardliners and representative Matt Rose Endale who voted against Matt Mccarthy and do you think that should change and would he vote for a speaker who did, and he said that the rules package was passed in january and it is is the rules package that needs to stay intact, sara. All right. Lauren fox, thank you so much for your reporting and getting that new information from jim jordan there. Appreciate it so much. John and harry, thank you. And you just played that sound bite where he called them pyromaniacs and saboteurs, and so, lets talk to our Senior Reporter here. Now, as we are talking about the far right wing of the republican wing that cause this, but really when you get down to pit, how accurate is that . I dont think that it is that accurate. Take a look at matt gaetz, the instigator and the leader. The roll call votes and where does he rank among the republicansconservativology. And he is not that conservative on gay adoption, and medical marijuana, but he is number one when it is coming to bomb throwing with antiestablishment. So he is not really far right. So it is important and interesting distinction there, and in terms of what he has been able to get done other than being the first person to get rid of the speaker of the house, what does the data show there . The critics say he is not an effective legislator, and this is ringing true when you are looking at the legislative effectiveness in the effective lawmaking. 115 passed and he was 103 of 205, and 117 out of 205. And 185 of 222, and the fact is that matt gaetz does not bring legislation to the floor and able to get it passed. It is not something that he has been able to do. And so if he is not getting the legislation done, and not good at that, what is he good at . He is good at Generating Press which is something that the critics say that he does do. Look at the google results. He represents floridas 1st district. Look at neil dunn, and he is representing the 2nd congressional district, and look at that how many more google news mentions matt gaetz has for generating news and not so good. This is 106,000, and this is 347, period. 347, period. That is a huge difference, and this these are next door neighbors in the congrern nal districts. So if you are a republican, and you want to see him voted out, what are the chances in the district . Probably not. This is a 2022 vote share, and matt gaetz got 77 and he is well liked by the constituents and we will see if it is upheld as it has in the past. Now, talking about getting things done, he can at least point to getting rid of House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy. Thank you, harry. Kate . Joining us is two members of the former republican congress, former congressman from michigan and the former congressman from illinois, and so can i call you kenzington and upton, because this is going to be very difficult. Adam. Just dont use my initials on the air. Okay. Now i will never unthink it. Thank you, congressman. Now, adam, thinking of the two options for speakers at this point, jim jordan and Steve Scalise, is one better than the other . By the way, hey, fred, yes. I think that one is better. I think that Steve Scalise is better of the two, but who do i think that is doing go to win, i think that it is not Steve Scalise, but he is going to be better to unite the caucus, and when we find out this, i will not be surprised when jim jordan is so behind this ousting of mccarthy, because he has the Talking Points to unite the party, and if they make jim jordan or somebody like him, they are allowing the legislative terrorists to win, because they will end up with a speaker who is just like them. And this is where i think that the reasonable caucus members, and i used to think that nancy mace was one of them, but they will play with the same tactics that the crazy caucus did so that it does not go off of the cliff. What tactics are you talk about . Well, if you is had eight people who said in no way will we ever vote for a speaker who has a rule change, and looking at the beginning, we need all of these things given to us to vote, you have to have members of the house who do the same thing, and for instance on ukraine. Have five or ten people say, that we will not vote for anybody, period, unless they promise simply to put the ukraine funding on the floor for up and down vote. And put it down for the vote. And there are not 200 members who want the ukraine aid . It is a problem that we are running into, and fred, this is so awkward for me to weigh in on, because you have eight, maybe plus some more that have, and we will say the hardline, and more extreme views that lead to this, and 200 others who could come together to push it forward, but how do you think that this is going to end up . I mean, in your mind, should it be jim jordan or Steve Scalise if that is the only options . Well, it is going to take a number of days, and it wont be one or two. The real race is to get a majority within the republican conference and you need 213 vote, because they count the delegates as part of it. Both steve as well as jordan are in, will be, and it too early now, and people are not quite making commitments, but they are both, the base is like 90 maybe. Maybe 100 votes, and how do you get the last number of votes. The states often, and the delegations will sit together, and the texas delegation yesterday had both come and visit. They want to vote as a bloc, because they want to be on the side of the winner. And what is trump going to do . He is very close to jordan, and we know that. Is he is going to be coming out sunday or monday and say, you know it, he is my choice. Do you think that is the game changer . Either one could get to 213, but the trick is to get to 218 on the floor, particularly when you have some members saying is, im not voting for them no matter what. So it is going to go, at least a couple of rounds and maybe not 15, maybe at the end both throw in the cards and you end up with someone like mchenry who maybe, may be the person at the end of the stage willing to take over if in fact neither steve nor jordan can get there. Adam, i wanted to ask you about ukraine, and ask you about this, because jim jordan was on fox and asked about the future aid for ukraine which now matters more than ever, because he is seen as one of the top contenders of the speaker of the house, and he would have a huge say in whether anything would be brought to the floor with future aid to ukraine, and this is what jim jordan said this morning. I have been clear all along, why are we sending is american tax dollars to ukraine until we know what the objective is . It is driving them out of crimea which has taken ten years as it took the Obama Administration . So until we know the goal, we should not send money there particularly when we have the problems on our border. Adam, i hear this more and more from the republicans that there is a need to hear a clear objective, especially from President Biden on ukraine. Is clarity lacking on what the purpose of aid to ukraine is from the United States . If no more money is approved, what happens . Look, i think it is lacking. Frankly, the president needs to be out there almost every day talking about why this is important, and Foreign Policy s and typically americans follow leaders when the leaders are following on Foreign Policy s and let me say to jim jordan though, he says that his opinion, and that is fine, and he can have that opinion on ukraine, but it does not mean as speaker, he has the right then to make a unilateral decision to defund ukraine. And he is one vote and he should put it on the vote and vote his conscious, and let everybody else vote theirs. This is what the freedom club is talking about, we want regular order to put it into floor and to now say as speaker that you are going to not put it on the floor, it makes you no different than the people that you are complaining about. And we used to call him the upton prophecies, and he told me that donald trump would run again and i did not believe him, so listen to his prophecies. I am terrified and intrigued. Go, fred. I was on the ukraine caucus, and i believe strongly in the aid, and adam has made a strong point, and if jordan has ended up getting the aid, it is Discharge Petition where you will get a good number of democrats and republicans to do that and do an end run on the speaker jordan and get the money and send it to the senate so that we can help protect democracy. That is going to do nothing to lead to unity and bipartisan and that is going to lead to more chaos. Real quick, because we, i would like a prophecy on this, and some republicans say the eight should be punished and held accountable, because when you are talking about needing to get to 218 on the floor, that is going to help unity in the conference . These folks, they are forever the gang of eight, and already, they are taking away the earmarks and not a big deal to drum them out of the conference, but that means they dont know up between 9 00 and 10 00 on monday through wednesday, and they can still speak on the commit tease and it is a slap on the wrist. The prophecy has spoken. Thank you, both. Lets do it again. Sara. All right. President biden doing something that he promised that he would not do, building the wall, at least a section of the wall. The Biden Administration said it will waive dozens of federal laws to allow Border Wall Construction and the plan is to add 20 miles of new border walls in the star county. In that area, 220,000 migrants have tried to cross into the United States since october of last year. So it is a year ago. Cnns Priscilla Alvarez is joining us from the white house. The biden team says it is to address an acute and immediate need, and we have been hearing from the people on the border in el paso for example, be this is an issue four a really long time, and what is difference now, and why is he making this move now . Sara, this is boil down to the administration running up against a deadline. A source that i spoke with this morning said that the 2019 congressionally Approapriated Funds for a Border Barrier had to be used by 2023, and the administration had to use the money or not use it, and they would use it for the Border Barriers in south texas. This is an area of the u. S. Mexico Border that is highly trafficked by migrants and we have talked about it repeatedly, and the numbers have talked about over 300,000 encounters in this one section of the border. So in the secretary of Homeland Security mayorkas had to waive the Drinking Water act, the ep dangered species act, and this is similar to what the Trump Administration did when they were trying to build the barriers, but these are funds appropriated by congress, and the Trump Administration used pentagon funds, because that is not what is happening here. And last month, they sought public input from the community as they sought plans to put up the barriers, but this is precarious for a white house who has said for a long time, they were not planning to build any walls. Already, the republicans are already taking up these Talking Points, but it is use it or lose it money. Interesting point, Priscilla Alvarez. The memorial closed to the public and what we know about the Security Concerns behind that decision. The Dash Cam Video and the aftermath of a 2018 car crash where a wife of bob menendez is connected to a death. And now, where members of congress are refusing an aid package for ukraine. We have breaking news for you now into cnn. Ukraine now says that 51 people are dead after a Russian Missile strike on a small village of just 330 people. This video is showing the aftermath of the attack. It was on a shop and cafe. The cafe was holding a wake when it was hit. Cnns Clarissa Ward is joining us now. Devastating pictures to look at, and it is just rubble. What can you tell us about what happened here . So, what we are hearing from the ukrainian officials, sara, this is an escander missile that hit a small village that is about 25 miles from the front region of the kharkiv region, and according to the ukrainian source, the villagers had come to the cafe to have a wake, and now 51 people have been killed, but in the last hour, that number has been steadily climbing. If this is indeed confirmed that 51 people have been killed, this would actually be the deadliest event that we have seen in ukraine for some time. The last would be the Missile Attack on the kramatorsk Train Station about a year and a half ago, and at least 50 people were killed in that attack. These sorts of strikes have become all too common, but the timing of this one, sara, it is of course impossible to ignore with the chaos unfolding on capitol hill and the real shock waves that it has sent through the hearts of many people in ukraine who are now fearful that they could be on the verge of losing or at least seeing a diminished sort of support from the u. S. By financial and militarily, but also in terms of morale, and certainly a lot of ukrainians will be look at what happened today, and feeling fearful about what is to come. I wanted to talk about what has just happened that we have gotten in here the last couple of hours, and the pentagon is saying that, look, we rerunning low on funds to help and send to ukraine, and what has that done, and congress is a mess, and they cant do anything right now, because the House Speaker has been ousted, and i know that zelenskyy, the president of ukraine has been watching all of this, and probably nervously, and what are we hearing from him about what happening in the United States . So, he is in gren nada and in spain today and he has been meeting with the eu leaders and putting a brave face on it, and saying that essentially that ukraine has bipartisan support, and it will be worked through. But underneath, i think that there is a very palable sense of unease, because even with this Unease Hurdle is cleared, it could happen again and again as the u. S. Is going into the election year. Right now, on the front lines, the Counter Offensive which is grinding away and not making a huge difference in terms of being able to push forward, but burning through a huge amount of weaponry, and a huge amount of munition, and the u. S. Really is a critical ally for ukraine in this capacity. The europeans have step up the aid they have been giving both militarily and financially, but according to one expert in the industry, the europeans could only supply 5 to 10 of the munitions that ukraine needs. So they are more reliant than ever before on the u. S. Support at this moment. We are also hearing of the weapons seized by iran to send them over, but that is not going to do the trick ultimately, and so t

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